Xabi's replacement - Name names and why

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Postby Reg » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:18 pm

Redman in wales wrote:For me its also Wesley Sneijder. I think he's a fantastic player, who can create things in the final third and score a few too.

other than that I'd rank them:

1. Wesley Sneijder

2. Steven Defour

3. Poulsen / Aquilani

Spot on mate.  :nod
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Postby Ben Patrick » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:21 pm

Would have to be sneijder for me. Top player and would give us a different dimension in the final third. He is also versatile which is great when are attacking options are poor.

The others mentioned i know hardly anything of, except Cambiasso who i would be more than happy with.
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Postby Spowellybaby » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:23 pm

aCe' wrote:well, sticking to realistic targets..

1. Aquilani
2. Cambiasso
3. Inler
4. Pirlo
5. Seedorf
6. Sneijder

1) evryone is saying aqualini is injury prone but amazin so might be a gamble with him
2)cambiasso- would be very good if available for good price
3)Inler-never heard if him
4)pirlo-getting on a bit at 30 so wud only get him if he was cheapish
5)seedorf-same as pirlo
6)sneijder-best shout for me but unknown how much real will want for him

cattermole, poulson and standard liege player also realistic targets
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Postby bigmick » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:26 pm

Joe Cole. We need someone dare I say it who does the Lampard role for us. He needs to be hitting the box, getting on the end of things, starting things, opening teams up. Cole was always a central midfielder until Mourinho converted him, he could slot in in front of Mash and in and around Stevie. He'd score goals, make goals and get you untold free kicks around the box (not by diving necessarily, because he's tricky and can dribble). Top player, acclimatised, something to prove and the right age.

14-17 million, Joe Cole, come on down.
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Postby Redman in wales » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:26 pm

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Redman in wales wrote:For me its also Wesley Sneijder. I think he's a fantastic player, who can create things in the final third and score a few too.

other than that I'd rank them:

1. Wesley Sneijder

2. Steven Defour

3. Poulsen / Aquilani

Do you know anything about Defour or Poulsen?

I don't.

Defour ive seen a couple of times but i've heard lots of good things about. Poulsen i think ive seen in a couple of euro games Aquilani i have to admit ive not seen play at all - but his injury list and italien comments have put me off him greatly
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Postby Effes » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:28 pm

bigmick wrote:Joe Cole. We need someone dare I say it who does the Lampard role for us. He needs to be hitting the box, getting on the end of things, starting things, opening teams up. Cole was always a central midfielder until Mourinho converted him, he could slot in in front of Mash and in and around Stevie. He'd score goals, make goals and get you untold free kicks around the box (not by diving necessarily, because he's tricky and can dribble). Top player, acclimatised, something to prove and the right age.

14-17 million, Joe Cole, come on down.

Agree there Mick; I'd say he would be just as good a signing as Sneijder.

In fact, the one benefit would be that he has Premiership experience.

Unfortunately, Chelsea never sell to us.
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Postby ste123lfc » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:28 pm

Kash_Mountain wrote:Heard on the radio (talksport) that "Esteban Granero" may be a suitable replacement.

Ok, who the heck is he, and is he a suitable replacement?

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Postby Redman in wales » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:29 pm

Effes wrote:
bigmick wrote:Joe Cole. We need someone dare I say it who does the Lampard role for us. He needs to be hitting the box, getting on the end of things, starting things, opening teams up. Cole was always a central midfielder until Mourinho converted him, he could slot in in front of Mash and in and around Stevie. He'd score goals, make goals and get you untold free kicks around the box (not by diving necessarily, because he's tricky and can dribble). Top player, acclimatised, something to prove and the right age.

14-17 million, Joe Cole, come on down.

Agree there Mick; I'd say he would be just as good a signing as Sneijder.

In fact, the one benefit would be that he has Premiership experience.

Unfortunately, Chelsea never sell to us.

i also agree. always rated him, and mentioned him myself many times throughout other threads.. but as you say chelsea would never sell to us
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Postby Spowellybaby » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:30 pm

bigmick wrote:Joe Cole. We need someone dare I say it who does the Lampard role for us. He needs to be hitting the box, getting on the end of things, starting things, opening teams up. Cole was always a central midfielder until Mourinho converted him, he could slot in in front of Mash and in and around Stevie. He'd score goals, make goals and get you untold free kicks around the box (not by diving necessarily, because he's tricky and can dribble). Top player, acclimatised, something to prove and the right age.

14-17 million, Joe Cole, come on down.

i agree i think joe cole is a great player but didn't chelsea say joe cole isn't for sale? although it seems he will be playing second fiddle at chelsea next season with their midfield
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Postby Feeney » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:30 pm

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Number 9 wrote:Arteta!!

Get him off the bitters..would be our best signing in ages!! :p

Overrated and is not exaclty a replacement for xabi . His strengths lie in his set peices in which we already have the best gerrard . Honestly i'd rather we go for totally different option and spend the whole 30 million + dossena + installements equating to 45 million for david villa and throw stevie back to midfield.

I would have to agree - admittedly Gerrard and Torres were great last year, but Gerrard supporting Torres and Villa in attack?

It's a win win to me.
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Postby Sabre » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:35 pm

I think that rather than seeking a player to counter what Alonso has left providing, we should look instead to the squad we have and sign what we need most.

Poulsen, who I watched often while he played for Sevilla would be a total guarantee midfielder to substitute Mascherano when he's not available. In that sense I'd like to have him. Good player. And he may come in a reasonable price I think.

Aquilani, I don't know anything of him. All I know is he's pretty expensive, and with a worrying injury record. We can't afford more cases of spending more than 10M (Kuyt, Babel, Keane) and failing to deliver. We have to be spot on in that >10M signing. Aquilani worries me but in Rafa I trust.

Arteta? I didn't know Bob came with it first, but yeh, I think he'd make our team better and would give us a  better option than Kuyt in the right, and a proper replacement should Steve is not available. More competent than Lucas too. Yeh, good signing, but for how much?


I think we need overall a proper striker for when Torres is not available. Playing Ngogs or Voronins cost points during a season (no matter if you have a Rafa or a Mourinho managing them). So we need a very good striker. Not comparable to Torres, simply a top division striker (Guiza, Negredo since I know the spanish players a bit more) . There are many options.

For the midfield, I think we have to build around the powerful skeleton of Mascherano the chief of defence, and Gerrard the chief of attacking midfield. We don't necessarily have to buy a expensive midfielder. I think Poulsen could do and he wouldn't be that expensive as Aquilani.

Whatever we do, we have to be spot on in the next >10M buy. It's crucial.
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Postby red37 » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:35 pm

Redman in wales wrote:
Effes wrote:
bigmick wrote:Joe Cole. We need someone dare I say it who does the Lampard role for us. He needs to be hitting the box, getting on the end of things, starting things, opening teams up. Cole was always a central midfielder until Mourinho converted him, he could slot in in front of Mash and in and around Stevie. He'd score goals, make goals and get you untold free kicks around the box (not by diving necessarily, because he's tricky and can dribble). Top player, acclimatised, something to prove and the right age.

14-17 million, Joe Cole, come on down.

Agree there Mick; I'd say he would be just as good a signing as Sneijder.

In fact, the one benefit would be that he has Premiership experience.

Unfortunately, Chelsea never sell to us.

i also agree. always rated him, and mentioned him myself many times throughout other threads.. but as you say chelsea would never sell to us

You certainly did. Was a good shout too....pity.
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Postby LFC2007 » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:37 pm

I'd hijack the Cole shout too but I'd want another CM in addition as he hasn't played there for a while and may ultimately end up figuring on one of the wings or in behind the striker, which is no bad thing because few are as effective in so many positions. Maybe Parker/Poulsen and Cole, then you have a nice mix.

Him aside, Sneijder would be the one. I suspect we won't such a player though, and will end up signing Poulsen and a winger/forward.
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Postby Effes » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:38 pm

Feeney wrote:
Toffeehater wrote:
Number 9 wrote:Arteta!!

Get him off the bitters..would be our best signing in ages!! :p

Overrated and is not exaclty a replacement for xabi . His strengths lie in his set peices in which we already have the best gerrard . Honestly i'd rather we go for totally different option and spend the whole 30 million + dossena + installements equating to 45 million for david villa and throw stevie back to midfield.

I would have to agree - admittedly Gerrard and Torres were great last year, but Gerrard supporting Torres and Villa in attack?

It's a win win to me.

That's defo something to ponder - Villa and Torres with Gerrard back in midfield.

Villa would be about £35M at least tho - I dont think we will splash that much.
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Postby Spowellybaby » Tue Aug 04, 2009 10:40 pm

what about de rossi?, aparently roma have money problems but still expect at least 15 mill for him
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