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by **stmichael** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:41 pm

I see Gollum has been accusing refs of favouring us in Derbies aswell. I wonder if they'll be any accusations of him "losing the plot".

No, thought not. :Oo:

by **Bammo** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:16 pm

bigmick wrote:
Ciggy wrote:We watch the players in training every single day and we can see a lot of things that the people who don’t watch the training can’t see.” [/b]

This is not the first time Rafa has alluded to this kind of thing, and it's one of the areas that I don't agree with him.

Many players over the years have been notoriously poor trainers, some very good players haven't been trainers at all due to injury and being nursed through for matches only. The idea that you pick your team based on what's going on on the training pitch is a newish one in England. Like some of the other ideas, I don't think it'll catch on to be honest.

Not sure it's that new. Didn't Shankly used to give youth players a broom and tell them to sweep the stadium? Those that didn't put the effort in were gone - it was all about the attitude.

As for Keane, it was probably a bit of both sides causing him not to settle. He doesn't play well = Rafa gets annoyed. He playes well but is subbed = Keane's annoyed so doesn't try hard in training = Rafa annoyed and doesn't pick him next game = Keane annoyed.......and so on

As for tonight's game, hopefully we'll get more chances as Everton will have to come out and play a bit more. This is the team I'd play (which won't happen!):

Reina

Carragher Skrtel Hyypia Aurelio

Alonso Masch
Benny Noon Riera

Gerrard

Torres

by **heimdall** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:31 pm

If we loose this game to a penalty caused by Lucas, I wonder whether Ciggy will be calling for Rafa's head again :;):

In all seriousness I am very very worried about this game, I just don't have a good felling about it at all, sorry to be negative, wish I could come on here and say I predict a win but I just don't.

by **stmichael** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 1:37 pm

heimdall wrote:In all seriousness I am very very worried about this game, I just don't have a good felling about it at all, sorry to be negative, wish I could come on here and say I predict a win but I just don't.

why are you aplogising? it's the least we expected for you to be completely negative.

by **stmichael** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 3:20 pm

Redman in wales wrote:
stmichael wrote:I'd play Agger over Skrtel. With Skrtel's tendency to give daft free kicks away, he could put us under severe pressure as that's Everton's strength.

and that means no lucas as well

i wouldn't bet on that.

by **zarababe** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:05 pm

1-0 to us, but if we don't win not bothered - the League and CL for me and in that order !

by **Madmax** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:29 pm

If we win prepare for a pile up of fixtures.. To march on all fronts i feel we lack depth in the attacking department. Just a problem that we should have sorted in this months transfer window. If not a permanent buy atleast a loaned player would have been appreciated.
With the attacking department we have it really had to think we will do brill in all competitions.
Going to be a really tussle until the end of the season.
Anways even though i would prefer us not to win today, so we could decrease the fixture congestion, still want us to beat the bitters. Feckin they certain mates annoyed me like hell in the two draws.
Common you reds

by **we all dream...** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:40 pm

zarababe wrote:1-0 to us, but if we don't win not bothered - the League and CL for me and in that order !

You should want us to hammer the bitters every time we play them be it the champions league final or a testamonial!

by **heimdall** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:41 pm

stmichael wrote:
heimdall wrote:In all seriousness I am very very worried about this game, I just don't have a good felling about it at all, sorry to be negative, wish I could come on here and say I predict a win but I just don't.

why are you aplogising? it's the least we expected for you to be completely negative.

Thta's not fair at all, quite often i predict a win and we have a thrilling draw with the likes of Stoke

by **muzodziwa** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:51 pm

This is the game we need to win, first and most importantly this is the FA Cup, its no consolation not winning it, secondly as has been said by many this is a derby, we need to shut the bitters big gobs up, (otherwise they will release another video :laugh:

).

We need to field a strong team, and i feel Nando has to play in this one, if not then it is time to put babel in his favoured position. Benayoun deserves a start in this one and it will not hurt if we put Pacheco on the bench.

Predicting a 3-1 win for us

by **we all dream...** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:01 pm

muzodziwa wrote:This is the game we need to win, first and most importantly this is the FA Cup, its no consolation not winning it, secondly as has been said by many this is a derby, we need to shut the bitters big gobs up, (otherwise they will release another video ).

We need to field a strong team, and i feel Nando has to play in this one, if not then it is time to put babel in his favoured position. Benayoun deserves a start in this one and it will not hurt if we put Pacheco on the bench.

Predicting a 3-1 win for us

Yeh i'll go along with all that.

Who would you play across the back?

CB:Carragher has to start centre back buyt who with? squirtle, agger or even the Sami?

Arbeloa and Aurellio?

by **mkingdom** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:15 pm

I think he will play this side -

Reina

Arbeloa Agger Hyypia Dossena

Lucas Masch
Kuyt Babel

Gerrard

Torres

As an experiment I would like to see

Reina

Arbeloa Agger Hyypia Aurelio

Alonso Gerrard
Babel Riera

Kuyt Torres

and at some stage late on, go to 4-5-1 again with Babel up top on his own...see how he does.

If this wasn't a derby I wouldn't give a toss if we lost.

by **Reg** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:19 pm

Strange that Rafa was prepared to let Keane go to give Babel his chance of regular first team football..........

by **Rorschach26** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:22 pm

Eagle wrote:How can you leave out Carragher and Gerrard in a derby?

because they need a resting

despite it being Everton we have much bigger games coming up were we need are star players as fresh as they can be

by **GYBS** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:30 pm

Pepe

Arbeloa
Agger
Carra/Sami
Dossena

Lucas
Xabi

Yossi
Gerrard
Babel

Torres/Ngog

Thats who i think he would play and yeah following on from what me and Ace are saying in another thread maybe this is the time to put Darby,Speaing and Pacheco on the bench

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