Sabre wrote:Much better than the Spanish.
JoeTerp wrote:Sabre wrote:Much better than the Spanish.
In my opinion its the Spanish linesman that blow a lot of calls, which doesn't even make sense really because there isn't really supposed to be an interpreatation factor with offside (at least in comparison to judging the legality of challeneges constantly throughout a game)
I am very surprised at all of this referee bashing because its not really something that we do in the United States. Very often fans will blame the game on the refs and complain about terrible calls, but nearly never does it make news in the media. Very few referees are known by their name and a majority of them are known for how good they are because they are always doing the big games (then there are a few ones known for scandals)
I am not really sure what all this referee bashing is supposed to accomplish. I think it would only go towards making people not wanting to become referees, and with less competition means the quality will be lower.
Also, sometimes I hear about referees being accountants or watchmakers or having some other main job other than being a referee. I think that is your problem right there. You have a semi-proffesional trying to keep up with world class athletes. And I don't just mean the pace of the game or being in the right place to spot the action. Referees should be full time so that they can watch footage and train constantly with all the other referees so that they can work on consistancy.
JoeTerp wrote:Sabre wrote:Much better than the Spanish.
In my opinion its the Spanish linesman that blow a lot of calls, which doesn't even make sense really because there isn't really supposed to be an interpreatation factor with offside (at least in comparison to judging the legality of challeneges constantly throughout a game)
I am very surprised at all of this referee bashing because its not really something that we do in the United States. Very often fans will blame the game on the refs and complain about terrible calls, but nearly never does it make news in the media. Very few referees are known by their name and a majority of them are known for how good they are because they are always doing the big games (then there are a few ones known for scandals)
I am not really sure what all this referee bashing is supposed to accomplish. I think it would only go towards making people not wanting to become referees, and with less competition means the quality will be lower.
Also, sometimes I hear about referees being accountants or watchmakers or having some other main job other than being a referee. I think that is your problem right there. You have a semi-proffesional trying to keep up with world class athletes. And I don't just mean the pace of the game or being in the right place to spot the action. Referees should be full time so that they can watch footage and train constantly with all the other referees so that they can work on consistancy.
Number 9 wrote:JoeTerp wrote:Sabre wrote:Much better than the Spanish.
In my opinion its the Spanish linesman that blow a lot of calls, which doesn't even make sense really because there isn't really supposed to be an interpreatation factor with offside (at least in comparison to judging the legality of challeneges constantly throughout a game)
I am very surprised at all of this referee bashing because its not really something that we do in the United States. Very often fans will blame the game on the refs and complain about terrible calls, but nearly never does it make news in the media. Very few referees are known by their name and a majority of them are known for how good they are because they are always doing the big games (then there are a few ones known for scandals)
I am not really sure what all this referee bashing is supposed to accomplish. I think it would only go towards making people not wanting to become referees, and with less competition means the quality will be lower.
Also, sometimes I hear about referees being accountants or watchmakers or having some other main job other than being a referee. I think that is your problem right there. You have a semi-proffesional trying to keep up with world class athletes. And I don't just mean the pace of the game or being in the right place to spot the action. Referees should be full time so that they can watch footage and train constantly with all the other referees so that they can work on consistancy.
So refs can get decisions wrong all the time and cost teams points and gift points to others and nothing should be said or done about it?? Absolutely wrong and its not "Ref Bashing" either Joe,its people that care passionately about their team and the game as a whole and want it fair.
Im not just talking about LFC,it should be fair for every team and consistant.A win is a win but theres no real glory in winning a game due to a bad decision on the pitch.
The thing about it is Joe that it seems to be getting worse and worryingly the ref standard is falling,we are only just into the season and already we have had two goals disallowed.That is unacceptable.If it keeps going at this rate we will have 12 legitimate goals ruled out by season end..how many points could that cost us?This is just LFC of course,there are other teams out there feeling aggrieved too!
It used to be people never really complained as much because there were never as many bad calls,people would say Ok well it happens to us all and evens itself out over the season!
Unfortunately now its beyond a joke,players and supporters IMO find the respect campaign patronising,how are they expected not to question refs when they are calling white black ffs??
Its high time MORE was said about it and something was done because too many matches are ending with the wrong result.
All people want is fairness....the refs are'nt up to it and its time to get the help of technology!
Then the "ref bashing" will stop!!
Sabre wrote:If there were evidences we'd be fighting another Spanish Civil war Not in current professional football but I can find evidences of 25 years ago. The existing corruption is the remainder of that.
Refs are relegated and promoted a couple of them every season, but there's not a rating as such, they decide it with the finger, leaving often controversial refs many years.
The only system to control a very awful refereing is the "fridge", that is, a couple of games without matches.
tonyeh wrote:Not the first time he's apologised for a fuck up either. He had to apologise to Liverpool too, for awarding Chelsea a cheap penalty.
But the problem here isn't really Styles (although he was chronically wrong on Sat), it's cheating diving feckers like Ronaldo, that make the refs job harder than it should be.
Diving in the box, looking for a cheap free, is not gamesmanship or whatever, it's downright bloody cheating...especially when it's on the end of some quality defending like Samuel's effort and even more galling when it turns a game.
I was a bit tounge in cheek with my last post about cards for the likes of this, but I am coming around to it big time, especially in the light of the overturning Terry's red card by the FA last week.
Perhaps, if there is a clear mistake made due to a player dilberately diving in the box, maybe that penalty goal could be overturned and the goal dis-allowed. That'll certainly go someway to minimising this nonsense.
tonyeh wrote:On the back of todays awful match control form Mike Riley in the Liverpool - Everton game (which comes off a bizarre perfomace from the Man Utd - Chelsea match) and the unbelievably poor "penalty" decision awarded to yet another ronaldo dive by Rob Styles in the Man Utd - Bolton game...how do you feel that referees perform generally?
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