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by **LegBarnes** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:00 pm

Judge wrote:LMFAOROFLCOPTER ?

wtf is that?

Laught my

off roll on floot laighting COPTER i have no idea i just see people putting at end for extra effect i think :buttrock

by **John Kegs** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:04 pm

LegBarnes wrote:
Judge wrote:LMFAOROFLCOPTER ?

wtf is that?

Laught my off roll on floot laighting COPTER i have no idea i just see people putting at end for extra effect i think

by **LegBarnes** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:05 pm

John Kegs wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:
Judge wrote:LMFAOROFLCOPTER ?

wtf is that?

Laught my off roll on floot laighting COPTER i have no idea i just see people putting at end for extra effect i think

yer what he said

by **LegBarnes** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 7:08 pm

LegBarnes wrote:
John Kegs wrote:
LegBarnes wrote:
Judge wrote:LMFAOROFLCOPTER ?

wtf is that?

Laught my off roll on floot laighting COPTER i have no idea i just see people putting at end for extra effect i think

yer what he said

shouldn't it be upside down :Oo:

Since it on floor

by **bigmick** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:44 pm

What an excellent thread this is. Love or loathe some of the responses but at least we got ourselves a debate.

Conn made two very interesting points. Firstly that Lampard "hollistically speaking' is better than Barton. Absolutely Conn, couldn't agree more mate (if somebody could PM me and tell me what the feck hollistically means I'll just keep pretending that I know

). I think whats more whereas Lampard has a rotation factor of 2.1 when he swivels on the ball, I think you'll find Bartons is only 1.86 (highest number wins in this particular top trump). Conn's got the graphs if you don't believe me

Secondly and more importantly, Conn's Baresi factor (as I've now christened it). Nanny was onto it as well, he is a classic example of a player actually managing to overcome the fact that he has some shortcomings and weaknesses, and STILL be a World class player. Slow as feck but read it like a book and was a top class defender. You also get some players, Roy Keane and John Barnes being two examples which spring to mind, who through repeated injury/old age/getting fat have to actually change the way they play mid-career. Micheal Owen is another. Really top players can do this and re-invent themselves into another guise of a top class footballer.

Yes I like that when we're talking relative attributes. It's how the pieces of the jigsaw fit together. Can one big piece compensate enough for a small piece. Pace and power without perception are a waste of time. Brilliant example of it in actuality there Conn. The Baresi factor.

by **Fo Dne** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:21 pm

john craig wrote:
ConnO'var wrote:You know your stuff

After this thread I wouldn't even say that.

If you ask me he knows all

Pennant's the answer
Carragher's average
Barton's better than Lampard
Not convinced about Torres
We should sign Woodgate

...just a few of the gems I can remember

When did I say Carragher was average?
When did I say I wasn't convinced by Torres?
When did I say Pennant is "the answer" within the current team (or even at all).

Yes Barton's alot better than Lampard.
Yes Liverpool should have signed Woodgate when we had the chance. A class above everything we have at the back.

by **Fo Dne** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:26 pm

Number 9 wrote:
LFC2007 wrote:I's pointless trying to discuss football with someone who still fails to understand the concept of having an opinion.

The level of abuse/mocking/intolerance is unacceptable.

I have no problem in accepting he can sometimes have radically different opinions to others, but when trying to liberally disagree (i.e. manage carefully how you phrase a post), he flies off the handle, going into an arrogant rant.

You can only do so much to accomodate him before you have to draw a line.

If us 'average Joes' know so little, why not fuck off for good?

Exactly right mate!

To come on a forum with some of the most passionate fans around and as soon as someone disagrees tell them they are thick and know nothing about the game is bad enough!

But then to try and justify being so clever because you talk to a guy in charge of a boys team.
Then to claim you have done FA badges which is probably a lie.
Then to claim no one knows as much as him because they dont play sunday league football and are armchair fans.
Its just laughable!

And you can talk can't you...

by **NANNY RED** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:44 pm

bigmick wrote:What an excellent thread this is. Love or loathe some of the responses but at least we got ourselves a debate.

Secondly and more importantly, Conn's Baresi factor (as I've now christened it). Nanny was onto it as well, he is a classic example of a player actually managing to overcome the fact that he has some shortcomings and weaknesses, and STILL be a World class player. Slow as feck but read it like a book and was a top class defender. You also get some players, Roy Keane and John Barnes being two examples which spring to mind, who through repeated injury/old age/getting fat have to actually change the way they play mid-career. Micheal Owen is another. Really top players can do this and re-invent themselves into another guise of a top class footballer.

Yes I like that when we're talking relative attributes. It's how the pieces of the jigsaw fit together. Can one big piece compensate enough for a small piece. Pace and power without perception are a waste of time. Brilliant example of it in actuality there Conn. The Baresi factor.

I remember years ago when i fisrst saw a player for Argentina,

Small player for a central defender i think he was only about 5ft 7, slight build not quick at all i remember saying to my dad hell never be a top class central defender to small, not enough meat on him. How wrong i was the lads name was Daniel Passarella , went on to captain Argentina and score some fantastic headers small though he was , and became imo a world class player . Although he was small to play that position he was smart the way he read the game was unbeilevable. Another one to throw in the equasion there Mick

by **bigmick** » Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:34 pm

Passerala was a great player Nan you're right (must confess I don't remember him being that short but that just shows he totally overcame it). I think he played in the same team as Kempes and Lucez, Ardiles and the like. I still remember when they beat the Dutch with all the ticker tape on the pitch (at least i think it was that team,and it was the Dutch lol). 1978. The Dutch had Cruyyff and Neeskins and that bloke who used to shoot from about fifty yards, Ari Haan. That was the same World Cup where they had to beat Peru or Chile or somebody buyoutable 6-0 or some fecking thing to go through. The opposition goalie looked like he was high on crack and they just managed it, 6-0 exactly funnily enough

by **LegBarnes** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:42 am

Fo Dne wrote:
john craig wrote:
ConnO'var wrote:You know your stuff

After this thread I wouldn't even say that.

If you ask me he knows all

Pennant's the answer
Carragher's average
Barton's better than Lampard

Not convinced about Torres
We should sign Woodgate

...just a few of the gems I can remember

When did I say Carragher was average?
When did I say I wasn't convinced by Torres?
When did I say Pennant is "the answer" within the current team (or even at all).

Yes Barton's alot better than Lampard.
Yes Liverpool should have signed Woodgate when we had the chance. A class above everything we have at the back.

Only thing barton is better then lampard at is robbing old grannys.

Lampard just isnt fast enuff to catch them.

:eyebrow

So you would sell torres ? sell carra

Then buy a player with one of worst track history of injurys i have ever seen.

Gulp !

by **ruskiy playmaker** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:01 am

Fo Dne wrote:Yes Liverpool should have signed Woodgate when we had the chance. A class above everything we have at the back.

Um no, Agger and Skrtel will probably be as good or even better than him in a year or two.

by **LegBarnes** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 1:04 am

ruskiy playmaker wrote:
Fo Dne wrote:Yes Liverpool should have signed Woodgate when we had the chance. A class above everything we have at the back.

Um no, Agger and Skrtel will probably be as good or even better than him in a year or two.

I think agger already is at same level easy.

by **Fo Dne** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 7:31 am

LegBarnes wrote:
Fo Dne wrote:
john craig wrote:
ConnO'var wrote:You know your stuff

After this thread I wouldn't even say that.

If you ask me he knows all

Pennant's the answer
Carragher's average
Barton's better than Lampard

Not convinced about Torres
We should sign Woodgate

...just a few of the gems I can remember

When did I say Carragher was average?
When did I say I wasn't convinced by Torres?
When did I say Pennant is "the answer" within the current team (or even at all).

Yes Barton's alot better than Lampard.
Yes Liverpool should have signed Woodgate when we had the chance. A class above everything we have at the back.

Only thing barton is better then lampard at is robbing old grannys.

Lampard just isnt fast enuff to catch them.

So you would sell torres ? sell carra

Then buy a player with one of worst track history of injurys i have ever seen.

Gulp !

Are you going to quote me on when I said we should we sell Carragher and Torres? :no

What a bellend.

by **ConnO'var** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:41 am

NANNY RED wrote:I totaly agree with your comments there Con regarding Baresi now he was what you called true world class i actualy had the honour of seeing him play a couple of times outstanding defender but fair.

Me too Nan. I saw him a couple of times in Artemio Franchi stadium when I was based in Florence in the early/mid nineties when he was well past his prime and he was still unbelievably good. Milan retired the No. 6 jersey when he hung up his boots. An accolade well deserved imo.

by **ConnO'var** » Wed Jul 16, 2008 8:44 am

bigmick wrote:Conn made two very interesting points. Firstly that Lampard "hollistically speaking' is better than Barton. Absolutely Conn, couldn't agree more mate (if somebody could PM me and tell me what the feck hollistically means I'll just keep pretending that I know ). I think whats more whereas Lampard has a rotation factor of 2.1 when he swivels on the ball, I think you'll find Bartons is only 1.86 (highest number wins in this particular top trump). Conn's got the graphs if you don't believe me

Taking the mick, bigmick?

:blush:

I'll never live those accurded graphs down!

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