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by **maypaxvobiscum** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 4:54 pm

Bad Bob wrote:
peewee wrote:
Bad Bob wrote:
peewee wrote:
Ace Ventura wrote:Has anyone got the link/story about the brazilian club that Hicks bought, promised the stadium to...never delivered and then fooked off ?
Or am i imagining that

never heard of that

Shocking. And you wonder why a geography teacher from Canada has a better grasp on the severity of the situation than you do. Let me paint a simple picture for you, Peewee, and then I'll go back to ignoring your drivel:

What happens at board level has and will continue to influence what happens on the pitch. Ergo, solving the board room problems (which are massive) completely and utterly overshadows everything else when it comes to Liverpool Football Club. Hicks must go, Gillett must go and Parry must go in that order. Once those exits have been orchestrated the minor problems on the pitch can be effectively addressed.

oh how expected, anyway bob are you ready to answer my earlier question, what is more important to you this season? Hicks out or winning the CL

keep having little digs all you want and I will respond with the same question

Because asking the same irrelevant question deflects nicely from the fact that you fail to grasp even the most basic dimensions of this debate. I'm flattered you think so highly of my opinion, though.

Through its subsidiary PanAmerican Sports Teams, Hicks, Muse, Tate & Furst invested more than £40m in Corinthians in the first year of what was supposedly a 10-year partnership alone.

The deal was part of a project to invest in Brazilian football and broadcast it all over Latin America on the Hicks-owned TV station PSN. The cash injection fired Corinthians to victory in the 2000 World Club Cup and even gave the club the funds to sign Brazil stars Dida and Luizao.

But the new regime infuriated fans when they started selling off star players the following summer and announced plans to change Corinthians' famous black-and-white kit.[/quote]

One Brazilian source said: "The Americans came into Corinthians with a lot of money but did not understand the way football works. They brought in a strong team of advisers to administer the club but the way they did things was very American, in the crudest sense. The model they wanted does not function here. Things had to be done their way.
"I can understand why Liverpool fans are angry with Hicks - but perhaps they should ask why their football industry has come to such a point that he was able to buy the club."
Hicks announced on Friday a £350m refinancing plan which strengthened his grip on Anfield despite fury from fans over a perceived lack of backing for boss Rafa Benitez. The deal loads £105m worth of debt on to the club, including £60m for work on the much-delayed new stadium.
But Corinthians fans never saw the 45,000-seat ground on the outskirts of Sao Paulo which Hicks, Muse promised them in 1999. Brazilian pundit Paulo Vinicius Coelho said: "They promised a new ground and it never arrived."
Even though Hicks, Muse pulled out of the club in 2003 after a row with a local partner over funding, it was not until December 28 2007 that the legal wrangling between the company and Corinthians finally ended

by **NANNY RED** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 6:13 pm

Peewee you asked Bob would he sooner win the Champions league or get rid of Hicks this season.

Well i can honestly say as a match going fan for nearly 40 years and as someone who has already applied for a visa to Moscow i myself would sooner get rid of Hicks , I want this club back to the way we used to be . No doubt about it we will win the champions league again, But these two have turned the club i love into a shambles . FFS you never heard John Smith or Peter Robinson giving interviews on the telly or speaking about the internal going on at the club to every tom dick and harry,

First priority for me is two get these two out Hicks first then Gillette then Parry, And on a note here if we do go on and win the CL this season Raffa Benitez should be given the freedom of the :censored:

city for all the shi.t that he has had to put up with never mind a new contract

by **Thingy** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:11 pm

Nanny and Ciggy, just like to say your support for Rafa is amazing . Love the way either of yas never let anyone say a bad word about him. Im scared to open my mouth in this thread incase i say something wrong an yous bite my head off

by **destro** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 7:29 pm

Thingy wrote:an yous bite my head off

Theres a Brothel in Bratislava that has women that will do that if you have the money, and you don't have to mention Raffa :;):

by **nobybob** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 8:53 pm

peewee wrote:i think i will start a poll, who is more hated, hicks or peewee?

way to close to call for me

by **nobybob** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:04 pm

Judge wrote:
nobybob wrote:peewee
again i will ask you the question about which is more important to you, hicks out or the CL. iof you say its more important to get hicks out than win the CL then you know nothing about football or this club, if you say the CL is more important (which it is) then you will find yourself agreeing with me.

i will tell you which is the most important to me HICKS OUT (which it is ) no hesitation at all if we lose the cl this club will still be LFC the club i love with all the philosophies and traditions and ways of doing things it aways has had. But if hicks stays all that will go out the window he will take all the money out of the club continue to make us a laughing stock in front of the whole world,. Players will want to leave , and new players will not want to come here. The very existence of the club is at stake here if you cant see that then YOU know nothing about football or this club!

peewee
question my support been there and done it bob and will do it again before you even get anywhere near the ground. your problem is that you follow the most vocal on here to fit in with the crowd, yet you think i believe the opposite just to cause ructions, far from it bob, i never said i agree with hicks, i just feel the guy should be given a chance, after all in his first full season we are in the CL semis and have the pleasure of watching the best finisher we have seen since fowler, we have signed mash, we have money available this summer, we can get rid of parry (at last) yet you all seem to think the guy is an idiot (idiots do not become billionaires).

As a match going scouser for the 44 years of my life i must say that BOB shows so much more insight and passion than you and your pathetic attempts to play devils advocate to the huge majority of opinion of fans on here, disagreeing, ignoring the obvious, anything to try to be controversial and get a bit of attention. So you must think that RAFA must be given a chance seeing as " after all we are in the CL semis and have the pleasure of watching the best finisher we have seen since fowler, we have signed mash, " all down to rafa. But you seem to think this guy is and idiot (idiots dont win the C.L) and get to 3 semis in 4 years.

peewee
once again i will say it as some of you seem unable to read my posts without looking for something you can throw back to try and question my level of support, hicks needs to be a given a chance, there is no guarantee a new owner would be any better, is that clear enough now?

So rafa must be given a chance then as there is no guarantee a new manager would be any better is that clear enough now?

PEEWEE
give the guy a chance and lets see what happens, do you really thing he gives two f*ck about what some geography teacher from canada thinks who has never even been the game.

you talk about support, he is the owner, why not support him?

give rafa a chance and lets see what happens, do you really think he gives two f*ck about whatsome ex copper from malasia thinks who hasnt been to a game since 2002

you talk about support, he is the manager, why not support him?

duh

bob you have an opinion and peewee has an opinion.

to slate what he (peewee) did for a job and where he lives now has nothing to do with the question in hand.

respect his opinion bob. i havent seen peewee slate you for you do or where you live

judge if you actually bother to read the posts properly you would see that i was replying very specifically to things raised by PEEWEE about bad bob read it through properly again then feel free to apologise to me mate

p.s
so it must be clear that peewee is the one critasising people for their jobs and were they come from i am the one doing the defending. so if you want to give some stick out then give it to peewee please

by **destro** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:04 pm

nobybob wrote:
peewee wrote:i think i will start a poll, who is more hated, hicks or peewee?

way to close to call for me

One winds people up to the point they threaten him and his family with violence, deliberately says things just to cause arguments and inflames situations that are already bad enough as it is, and NEVER backs down even though everyone else can see he is wrong....the other one is :rasp

by **nobybob** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:09 pm

destro wrote:
nobybob wrote:
peewee wrote:i think i will start a poll, who is more hated, hicks or peewee?

way to close to call for me

One winds people up to the point they threaten him and his family with violence, deliberately says things just to cause arguments and inflames situations that are already bad enough as it is, and NEVER backs down even though everyone else can see he is wrong....the other one is

an american

by **Ciggy** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:11 pm

nobybob wrote:
destro wrote:
nobybob wrote:
peewee wrote:i think i will start a poll, who is more hated, hicks or peewee?

way to close to call for me

One winds people up to the point they threaten him and his family with violence, deliberately says things just to cause arguments and inflames situations that are already bad enough as it is, and NEVER backs down even though everyone else can see he is wrong....the other one is

an american

by **destro** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 9:14 pm

nobybob wrote:
destro wrote:
nobybob wrote:
peewee wrote:i think i will start a poll, who is more hated, hicks or peewee?

way to close to call for me

One winds people up to the point they threaten him and his family with violence, deliberately says things just to cause arguments and inflames situations that are already bad enough as it is, and NEVER backs down even though everyone else can see he is wrong....the other one is

an american

by **NANNY RED** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:06 pm

Thingy wrote:Nanny and Ciggy, just like to say your support for Rafa is amazing . Love the way either of yas never let anyone say a bad word about him. Im scared to open my mouth in this thread incase i say something wrong an yous bite my head off

Because hes the boss and while he is the boss he will have my full support . He hasnt dont nothing wrong apart from a couple of finals and possible another one.

:laugh:

Stick with what you believe lad its your opinion if your a bit dodgy about Raffa say it

Or if you love him Shout it.lol , But stick with what you believe simple

by **LFC2007** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:11 pm

Rafa interview excerpt;

Q: With the way things are going would you ever be tempted to say 'Look I don't need this' and walk away?

A: At this moment I have two years on my contract. I am really pleased and happy here and want to stay. I have no intention of 'considering' my position at the end of the season.

:buttrock

by **god_bless_john_houlding** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:12 pm

Thingy wrote:Nanny and Ciggy, just like to say your support for Rafa is amazing . Love the way either of yas never let anyone say a bad word about him. Im scared to open my mouth in this thread incase i say something wrong an yous bite my head off

I think they fancy him :laugh:

by **NANNY RED** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:16 pm

LFC2007 wrote:Rafa interview excerpt;

Q: With the way things are going would you ever be tempted to say 'Look I don't need this' and walk away?

A: At this moment I have two years on my contract. I am really pleased and happy here and want to stay. I have no intention of 'considering' my position at the end of the season.

Made up with them words . absolutly made up

Get in there Raffa lad

by **LFC2007** » Fri Apr 18, 2008 10:18 pm

nobybob wrote:
destro wrote:
nobybob wrote:
peewee wrote:i think i will start a poll, who is more hated, hicks or peewee?

way to close to call for me

One winds people up to the point they threaten him and his family with violence, deliberately says things just to cause arguments and inflames situations that are already bad enough as it is, and NEVER backs down even though everyone else can see he is wrong....the other one is

an american

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