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by **Elchris** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:47 pm

No doubt we need that natural world class finisher...our midfield are making alot of chances for our current foward to put the ball in the net but with the current striker we have rite now it worries me..bellamy is the closet natural finisher we have fowler is there but he is not what he used to be...i like kuyt he work rate is fantastic but as a striker it is good to use both the foot on the ball but it looks like he can only use his right and that is not good..!!!!! he strugle's alot in the box for his inablity to use both of his foot...and crouch wasnt brought in to score goals more to support our so called strikers and he does his job OK...

At the end yess we need a striker who can score loads of goal...a natural finisher someone like micheal owen...the guy who puts the ball at the back of the net when itz kinda impossible to do it like that..

by **only me** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:53 pm

I'm not sure strikers are the problem ,they are just not getting enough deep passes from the midfield.

Bellami and Kuyt produce a lot of chances by pressing the defense and taking the ball ,but they should be getting much more support from the midfield ,we need to create chances from open plays and not just rely on our tackling and defensive work, we have 3 excellent defensive midfielder (momo/allonso/Stevie) ,we need 1 with more offensive skills.

by **Rafa D** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:03 pm

Dirk Kuyt IS a brilliant footballer. He brings much needed quality to our strike force and was a good buy. I hate to use this but he does a hell of a lot more than people give him credit for. His touch is great, his link up play brilliant and he has the look of a good footballer about him.

We lost, we missed chances. Move on.

by **Elchris** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:16 pm

Rafa-Dodd wrote:Dirk Kuyt IS a brilliant footballer. He brings much needed quality to our strike force and was a good buy. I hate to use this but he does a hell of a lot more than people give him credit for. His touch is great, his link up play brilliant and he has the look of a good footballer about him.

We lost, we missed chances. Move on.

kinda similar to crouch doesnt it..? except for the look thingy...

yes we lost...and itz not the first time lost after we created so so many chances

by **Rafa D** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:56 pm

To be honest I am quite happy with our squad and our strikers.

Bellamy, Kuyt, Crouch and Eto'o would be fine by me.

The only person we need to replace up front is Fowler. 4 top strikers are needed for our squad to be complete up front. Bellamy, Crouch and Kuyt all bring stuff to the team, Fowler sadly doesn't.

My first eleven next year would be:

- Reina

Finnan Carra Agger Riise

Gerrard Momo Xabi Alonso Kewell

- Eto'o Kuyt

This is if we get Eto'o.

If not a 20m+ striker is needed.

by **BOODIDDY** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:18 pm

i really believe that we need a top class striker. He might not get you 20 a season but the fear that great players put into other teams helps. Henry not scoring still will take one or two men to man mark. However, the wingers need to be got. Alves for me would be sensational and he can also play right back and overlap gerrard. As for the left side i really believe in kewell. If he gets fit then

So lets get alves, a fit kewell and eto'o, teves or villa.

by **BOODIDDY** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 8:20 pm

how do you all feel about kuyt? I think he works hard but would he get into the other big three teams? I'd say no.

by **Paul C** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:28 pm

We have some great strikers but we miss that kill instinct, it's all well having someone wo works hard for the team but out strikers miss too many siters and easy chances, we need someone who is quick but a clinical finish, Eto'o has been mentioned and would be welcome in my eyes.

by **Scottbot** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:02 am

The_Rock wrote:Once bellamy went off (who is our best striker), our attack just collasped. With no opposing players running at them with pace, the manure defenders grew in confidence and this ultimately spread to their whole team.

Rafa made a huge mistake of Subbing bellamy.....not sure why he doesn't sub kujt... If anybody needs to be benched (for not performing well or if they are too tired), it is kujt...

What game were you watching Rocky lad? Sure Bells had a good game and i was also surprised to see him come off but Kuyt was excellent yesterday. You talk about Bellamy running at players and we saw him get a lot of joy down the channels yesterday but Kuyt is also a very direct player. He doen't have the pace of a Bellamy but he is quick over 10 yards, has a SUPERB first touch (next time he plays watch the way he addresses the ball), is strong as an ox, can make space for himself, rarely gives away the ball and runs all day. Ferdinand was superb yesterday but he had his hands full with Kuyt. i agree his goals tally is not quite where you would want it (particularly away from home) and i would like to see him shoot more often as he is an excellent striker of a ball. I'm also dissapointed in his heading ability (it should be better for such a strong lad) however, it's easy to forget it's his first season in the EPl and i expect him to improve. Spend some money and get someone really speacial in front of him and we will see the best of Dirk Kuyt. for me he is the next Mark Hughes.

by **Rockthekop** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:30 am

As an attacking threat Crouch is pants...not saying he`s a bad player, he`s half decent (has a good touch and links play well), but for me he`s not what I would describe as a proper striker; he`s got no pace, no strength, weak shot, weak header...That`s not an opinion formed since the Man U defeat, it`s always been my opinion. Some of you will not agree but that's the beauty of personal opinion, you don`t have to.

We need better strikers than Crouch and Fowler to move forward. Lack of quality is our main problem, particularly up front and in wide areas. Kuyt and Bellamy will be good partners for two new strikers in the calibre of Eto and Villa. I would be well `made up` as the scousers say, if we bag one of them in the summer....

by **Scottbot** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:48 am

Rockthekop wrote:but for me he`s not what I would describe as a proper striker; he`s got no pace, no strength, weak shot, weak header

VERY few teams play with two 'proper strikers' these days. Crouch is a useful player, he shouldn't be number one (or two) on a team hoping to win the title but for me he is a great option to have off the bench as a 3rd striker/forward.

by **The Manhattan Project** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:52 am

Also, I'll tell you why we struggle to score headers, we never, ever, ever get a ball across the face of goal with pace from the by-line in front of, or dissecting the first line of defence, everything is floated in, so all the power has to come from the forward and its hard to attack a ball thats coming from behind you with no pace.

Agreed. Look at our corner-taking techniques. Very poor.

by **Redman in wales** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:19 am

Rockthekop wrote:As an attacking threat Crouch is pants ...not saying he`s a bad player, he`s half decent (has a good touch and links play well), but for me he`s not what I would describe as a proper striker; he`s got no pace, no strength, weak shot, weak header...

ah, so thats why Crouch is our top goalscorer in all competitions, dispite starting less games than Kuyt and bellamy. go figure.

I do think we need another striker, a first choice striker like Eto'o or Villa or ?, then have Kuyt, Crouch and bellamy to give other options

by **Rockthekop** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:32 am

Top goalscorer doesn`t mean he`s our best forward, Kuyt and Bellamy are better players and are more recent additions to the squad than Crouch...there's more to come from Kuyt and Bellamy! But keep Crouch in the squad, he`s a useful player who gives his all and can nick an odd goal here and there. He`ll drop even further down the pecking order though especially when we sign a top striker and there`s Voronin as well.

by **The_Rock** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 3:35 am

Scottbot wrote:
The_Rock wrote:Once bellamy went off (who is our best striker), our attack just collasped. With no opposing players running at them with pace, the manure defenders grew in confidence and this ultimately spread to their whole team.

Rafa made a huge mistake of Subbing bellamy.....not sure why he doesn't sub kujt... If anybody needs to be benched (for not performing well or if they are too tired), it is kujt...

What game were you watching Rocky lad? Sure Bells had a good game and i was also surprised to see him come off but Kuyt was excellent yesterday. You talk about Bellamy running at players and we saw him get a lot of joy down the channels yesterday but Kuyt is also a very direct player. He doen't have the pace of a Bellamy but he is quick over 10 yards, has a SUPERB first touch (next time he plays watch the way he addresses the ball), is strong as an ox, can make space for himself, rarely gives away the ball and runs all day. Ferdinand was superb yesterday but he had his hands full with Kuyt. i agree his goals tally is not quite where you would want it (particularly away from home) and i would like to see him shoot more often as he is an excellent striker of a ball. I'm also dissapointed in his heading ability (it should be better for such a strong lad) however, it's easy to forget it's his first season in the EPl and i expect him to improve. Spend some money and get someone really speacial in front of him and we will see the best of Dirk Kuyt. for me he is the next Mark Hughes.

I just hope you are rite about kujt.... For me, i really like kujt (i know, its hard to believe after i keep criticising him)... He gives 110% every time, he is in the pitch..Thats great....But is that what we want in our chief striker ? (according to rafa).

Don't forget he costs > 9 million pounds. And if all he contributes is closing down defenders and just a few goals then it looks like bad business....

I would like to say, i am hope i am wrong about kujt....I hope next season he dominates the premier league like how drogba is doing after his sub-par 1st season...but i just cannot see it happening...

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