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by **murphy0151** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:51 pm

redhayesy wrote:my view on the new signings - Aurelio, has not impressed me at all,shows little imaginatoin when going foward (we really miss riise,just shows how good a player he is) Aurelio can"t cross a ball or defend as well as riise! i just hope he improves in all areas of his game,but i think he will struggle & won"t be first choice for either left back or midfield. Kuyt- has really impressed me,best of all the new signings for me -he"s hungry energetic & enthusiasm to score as well as bring other players into the game to create chances is so refreshing!! he deserves to be first choice for foward line,not sure who is ideal partner is yet. - gonzalez- needs more games hasn"t had time yet to show full potential hope he takes his chance when picked & demonstraite his speed etc -Bellamy has started well looks a good buy has shown some nice touches & made some intelligant runs off the ball will only get better. hope he starts scoring consistantly while raffa shows faith in him i only hope he doesn"t let his head drop or attitude get in the way he has potential to be a top player for us. pennent- has made a good start, he has been better than i thought he would be. confident when going foward & shows good awarness of play when not in posession of the ball. needs a decent run in the side to really shine,however i feel rafa will use him more of a sqaud player rather than first choice i hope it doesn"t effect his confidence,as i think he has shown he can play with the best and not be out of his depth,he delivers a brilliant cross which has been lacking in recent times & i have high expectations of him if he continues his impressive start,hope i"m right come may - have to mention agger i know he"s been there longer but he deserves credit for his desire to learn from and as tipped to eventually replace sami & lets face it he has scored goal of the season already!! so i"v got every faith he will continue to improve this season.

Mate Aurelio looks better than Riise allready and he hasnt been playing int he premiership as long as Riise. Another match off the day watcher here, tut tut tut.

Whats happening in this place?

by **bigmick** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:03 pm

murphy0151 wrote:Mate Aurelio looks better than Riise allready and he hasnt been playing int he premiership as long as Riise. Another match off the day watcher here, tut tut tut.

Whats happening in this place?

Don't know about Match of the day watcher but I'm certainly a telly pundit and I rate Aurelio highly, have done since the first time I saw him play (on the tv of course).
I disagree with the earlier poster aswell but that's just one of those things. I don't FWIW think it's because he watches him play on a different brand of telly to me, or on a different TV channel. I think he just doesn't rate the bloke and to be honest, most of the people on here don't.
I think they are wrong Murph' and on this occasion agree with you. There are however other occasions where I think you are wrong and it wouldn't make any difference to me if you were sitting in the dugout, never mind the ground. It's all just opinions really and they are like erseholes, we've all got one. :;):

by **redhayesy** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:28 pm

i"m glad you said most of the people on here don"t rate Aurelio i"m glad other people watch the same game as me. tut tut tut. riise is and has been since he joined us pure class & is under no threat for his place in the side. there must be alot of match of the day viewers here in your opinion then.

by **woof woof !** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:57 pm

Defensively, Aurelio, (to me at least) doesn't instill confidence , going forward he shows more skill but I'm still not convinced . Is he really from Brasil ?

Bellamy, outstanding at the likes of Newcastle and Blackburn , looks willing but despite being surrounded by better players has so far been unable to step up his game . Not slagging the fella but so far he's hardly set LFC on fire .

Kuyt, have every confidence in the fella , could turn out to be the best forward we've had since Fowler in his heyday .

by **Ace Ventura** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:06 pm

Aurellio looks decent on the ball but like he is taking a bit too long in posession, he'll soon snap out of that though with a few more games.
Agger seems to be settling in well now and looks more assured with every game, he is great with the ball at his feet, but there are times when he should just clear it rather than mess around, and in the air he still has room for improvement. But i am really impressed so far.
Pennant, looks a little like a rabbit trapped in headlights, like he is worried to make a mistake...the amount of times so far he has been left one v one with the left back and has opted to pass or cross inside him shows that he needs to be a bit more confident in his ability to go beyond his man. He will start doing it, i am sure of that, i just think he needs to be a bit more positive.
Bellamy, needs a goal, looks really sharp and i am happy with what he has done so far, but at times just snatching at chances that he would usually bury, probably eager to please...again i am not worried once he gets one the goals will flow.
Kuyt - top buy, the lad has great touch (with both feet) is decent in the air, and has such a determination and desire...compare him to what we had last season Cisse and Morientes. Rafa has done exceptionally well to sign him, and he will be a massive hit.
One other thing that has impressed me about Dirk is how quickly he seems to have settled into the team and developed understandings with players.
He will be a cult hero.
Gonzalez is really difficult to say, i actually havent seen enough of him, in his cameos he hasnt had enough time on the pitch or enough poession, so really difficult to judge at this stage.

by **murphy0151** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:11 pm

redhayesy wrote:i"m glad you said most of the people on here don"t rate Aurelio i"m glad other people watch the same game as me. tut tut tut. riise is and has been since he joined us pure class & is under no threat for his place in the side. there must be alot of match of the day viewers here in your opinion then.

You are a plonker.

End off.

by **PabloAimar** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:10 pm

i think agger has been the most impressive signing (even tho it was in january) considering the hype (lack of) surrounding him.

his comfort on the ball could almost be described as 'sexual'.

top player.

and kuyt is great, not too sure about pennant - at the moment he just seems like a 'run-off-the-mill' right winger still in awe at being a liverpool player. lets hope he gets a bit more confidence and stops worrying about loosing the ball in the final third... get to the by-line son!

emmmm, bellamy will come good. once he scored one, they'll begin to flow like poo.

by **The_Rock** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:51 am

I think all of our new signings have done sort of well (including gonzales - he did get us the winner in the champ league qualifier).

As for Aurelio, i think he will become our best left very soon. I like the way he reads the game (ie....his antispation is pretty good). He gets to the ball before the opposing player and thus saves himself from doing those awesome last minute traore like tackles...

From what i have seen.....Aurelio is improving with each game. I think its only a matter of time when he becomes the left fullback in this country. A great deal of business for a free transfer won't u say ?

by **bigmick** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:41 am

The_Rock wrote:From what i have seen.....Aurelio is improving with each game. I think its only a matter of time when he becomes the best left fullback in this country.

That may be overstating it a touch Rock when you've got the likes of Ashley Cole kicking around in the Prem but I'm with you on Aurelio definately. In the Newcastle game in the second half he did one step over and cross for Kuyt which was right out of the very top drawer.

He must be absolutely mustard at free-kicks because we've got Gerrard and Alonso and whenever he plays, Aurelio takes every single one. You can only assume that in training he is absolutely deadly, once one goes in and all that ( I once had that Gary Stevens who used to play for Tottenham in the pub. He told me that Gascoigne NEVER used to miss the target in training with free-kicks. He could bend, dip, blast 'em or whatever you wanted into whichever corner you wanted, top or bottom.) Aurelio definately must be more than tasty from the dead balls over at Melwood thats a certainty.

Defensively he has pace and a nice bite into the tackle, knows when to tuck in and drop off. He does occasionally make a woeful decision, like trying a volley from thirty five yards out or something which makes everyone cover their eyes in frustration and I think this is what people are focusing on when they don't rate him. I keep saying it, forget about Kromkamp, Josemi, Traore and the like, this lad can really play. By the end of the season we'll all think he's a great player.

by **stmichael** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:24 pm

PabloAimar wrote:i think agger has been the most impressive signing (even tho it was in january) considering the hype (lack of) surrounding him.

his comfort on the ball could almost be described as 'sexual'.

by **Ace Ventura** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:08 pm

Bigmick about the freekicks, we were discussing that in the pub the other night and came accross the same answer....that he must be fantastic in training, because as you say he takes every one and it doesnt matter what position either.

by **murphy0151** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:12 pm

bigmick wrote:
The_Rock wrote:From what i have seen.....Aurelio is improving with each game. I think its only a matter of time when he becomes the best left fullback in this country.

That may be overstating it a touch Rock when you've got the likes of Ashley Cole kicking around in the Prem but I'm with you on Aurelio definately. In the Newcastle game in the second half he did one step over and cross for Kuyt which was right out of the very top drawer.

He must be absolutely mustard at free-kicks because we've got Gerrard and Alonso and whenever he plays, Aurelio takes every single one. You can only assume that in training he is absolutely deadly, once one goes in and all that ( I once had that Gary Stevens who used to play for Tottenham in the pub. He told me that Gascoigne NEVER used to miss the target in training with free-kicks. He could bend, dip, blast 'em or whatever you wanted into whichever corner you wanted, top or bottom.) Aurelio definately must be more than tasty from the dead balls over at Melwood thats a certainty.

Defensively he has pace and a nice bite into the tackle, knows when to tuck in and drop off. He does occasionally make a woeful decision, like trying a volley from thirty five yards out or something which makes everyone cover their eyes in frustration and I think this is what people are focusing on when they don't rate him. I keep saying it, forget about Kromkamp, Josemi, Traore and the like, this lad can really play. By the end of the season we'll all think he's a great player.

You say weve got Gerrard and Xabi who can take free kicks. I dissagree with Gerrard, I wouldnt let him take any free kicks or even corners. His free kicks are simply not good enough his corners are quite decent but hes about 6'2 in height. He should be attacking corners not taking them. The thing withe Gerrard he wants to take everything. he needs to be told for the good off the team that hes about fourth in the pecking order on taking free kicks.

by **bigmick** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:56 pm

murphy0151 wrote:You say weve got Gerrard and Xabi who can take free kicks. I dissagree with Gerrard, I wouldnt let him take any free kicks or even corners. His free kicks are simply not good enough his corners are quite decent but hes about 6'2 in height. He should be attacking corners not taking them. The thing withe Gerrard he wants to take everything. he needs to be told for the good off the team that hes about fourth in the pecking order on taking free kicks.

I've noticed a slight anti-Gerrard slant to a few of your posts Murph'. In the case of Riise, though I disagree with your overall assessment of his worth to the squad, I can understand how somebady wouldn't rate him that highly (I do think he's a good player BTW). However, in the case of Gerrard I find your stance slightly more baffling.

To a regular match goer like yourself, I would strongly advocate appreciating Gerrard while you can. I'm forty very soon and he's the best midfield player there has been at the club in my lifetime I would think. There is the distinct possibility you may never see a better one.

Having said all of that, though he takes a good corner he is also excellent in the air so I wouldn't have him taking corners either.

by **Ace Ventura** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 3:36 pm

I think Murphy is right on both counts, Gerrard isn't the best of freekick takers, he can drill them but they dont very often work.
And regarding corners he should be in the box attacking the ball, he is better in air than most realise.

by **murphy0151** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:47 pm

bigmick wrote:
murphy0151 wrote:You say weve got Gerrard and Xabi who can take free kicks. I dissagree with Gerrard, I wouldnt let him take any free kicks or even corners. His free kicks are simply not good enough his corners are quite decent but hes about 6'2 in height. He should be attacking corners not taking them. The thing withe Gerrard he wants to take everything. he needs to be told for the good off the team that hes about fourth in the pecking order on taking free kicks.

I've noticed a slight anti-Gerrard slant to a few of your posts Murph'. In the case of Riise, though I disagree with your overall assessment of his worth to the squad, I can understand how somebady wouldn't rate him that highly (I do think he's a good player BTW). However, in the case of Gerrard I find your stance slightly more baffling.

To a regular match goer like yourself, I would strongly advocate appreciating Gerrard while you can. I'm forty very soon and he's the best midfield player there has been at the club in my lifetime I would think. There is the distinct possibility you may never see a better one.

Having said all of that, though he takes a good corner he is also excellent in the air so I wouldn't have him taking corners either.

No mate I love Gerrard. An I know hes one off the best in the world if not the best. I just hate the way people say we would be nothing without him. Ill tell you one thing if he said he wanted to go in the summer mate, I wouldnt give a fu.ck. A world class player he is but he isint as Big as Liverpool FC.

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