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by **JohnBull** » Wed May 12, 2004 10:22 am

We already have a situation at Anfield where if 4 lads from Liverpool apply for tickets at the same time as 4 lads from Singapore , the Singapore lads will get them because they'll be spending loads in the shop - this is the reality of the game nowadays - the club no longer respects the longterm, through thick and thin, good times and bad supporters.
Half the board would sell their souls for the right price, never mind OUR club!

by **stmichael** » Wed May 12, 2004 10:23 am

i think that at the end of the day, steve morgan will be the real winner here. the guy is already the third biggest shareholder, and more importantly a liverpool fan who cares passionately about the clubs future. i don't agree with his propsed groundshare though. imo, david moores should accept his bid or resign.

as for this thai prime minister, it's a funny coincidence how this story has come up just before the new elections over there. if this guy invests, what will happen if and when he gets ousted from power? who will own the share then?

by **JohnBull** » Wed May 12, 2004 10:26 am

Shanks must be spinning in his grave - there's not a working class man left in a position of power.
The Shankly and Paisley votes would have gone to Morgan.

by **ICE-MAN** » Wed May 12, 2004 10:37 am

morgan doesnt want to groundshare anymore so we can stop worrying about that, he said the money raised will go off the new stadium and into the transfer kitty, so that thankfully rules out this groundshare talk so everyone can stop worrying about that :cool:

by **LFC #1** » Wed May 12, 2004 11:34 am

Chang Breweries in Thailand are interested in being our shirt sponsor instead of Carlsberg, taken from the article 'Thai lottery to fund LFC deal' in the Liverpool Daily Post this morning, the article is also on the front page of the ic Liverpool site.

by **SantaGiveHoullierTheSack** » Wed May 12, 2004 12:44 pm

My understanding is that Thaksin only wants to buy ordinary shares, so he will have no say in the day-to-day running of the club but would expect a return on his investments by getting an academy set up in Thailand and getting merchandising rights in Asia where LFC is hugh. He has also demanded seats in the board but expect to have little influence other than the commercial side of things. For that I say let take his money...

OTOH, Steve Morgan is LFC thro and thro. He is putting his money where his heart is. H'ever, it seems that Moores will not dilute his board control to Steve, that much is clear. As a fan I would prefer Steve's investment but will that translate into boardroom infighting as pointed out by Leon above?

Q. Can we accept both the investments?

On the background of Thaksin, peewee above is mostly correct. Thanksin is seen more like a modern day PM compared to his predecessors. He has brought Thai's economy forward and they are one of the better performed economy in Asia. He has appeared to have put in much effort to stamp out the drug trade and corruption within the country. How much of that is politician talk is open for debate. The same is true on some of the way he gains his wealth. I don't think he is squeaky clean guy but show me a politician who is and I will show you a Biscan as a top defender. He is an absolute dictator in his country and this purchase is more for political gain than anything else, but who cares if that will bring millions of transfer funds to build our team and convert millions of Thais into LFC fanatics? Anyone here questioned Roman's fortune when he bought over Chelsea? We have bought foreign players, bring in foreign coaches, so a foreign investor into football clubs here should not come as a surprise to all.

Like I said above, let's take both their money to build a new stadium and a team to compete with the elites of Europe. As a fan, that's all I am looking forward to.

by **Leonmc0708** » Wed May 12, 2004 12:53 pm

SantaGiveHoullierTheSack wrote:OTOH, Steve Morgan is LFC thro and thro. He is putting his money where his heart is. H'ever, it seems that Moores will not dilute his board control to Steve, that much is clear. As a fan I would prefer Steve's investment but will that translate into boardroom infighting as pointed out by Leon above?

Just a pointer, Morgans revised bid will entail a shares issue, which Morgan has now said Moores can purchase and therefore he will not need to dilute his stake and can remain in total control (ie51% stake) if he is willing to put the cash up also.

by **SantaGiveHoullierTheSack** » Wed May 12, 2004 1:30 pm

I am sure there must be a way we can accept cash from both parties...anyone care to enlighten?

by **fritzylfc** » Wed May 12, 2004 1:41 pm

anfield will tuirn in to f##king refugee camp for so called thai footballers, then in to a restraunt. morgan for me mate.

by **Redtribe** » Wed May 12, 2004 2:09 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/3706653.stm

worth a read if you havnt already seen it!

by **Redtribe** » Wed May 12, 2004 2:10 pm

fritzylfc wrote:anfield will tuirn in to f##king refugee camp for so called thai footballers, then in to a restraunt. morgan for me mate.

Really do you think that will happen!

Nice to see you have thought things through

by **stmichael** » Wed May 12, 2004 2:11 pm

just think of the food on match days though!

by **Redtribe** » Wed May 12, 2004 2:14 pm

In that case we need to find some chinese and indian bidders as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by **stmichael** » Wed May 12, 2004 2:41 pm

At present The Chairman only has a casting vote in case of a split decision. Obviously Parry is Moores, whipping boy. I don't believe Morgan would allow this sort of business to continue at LFC, where Moores calls all the shots! Morgan has put forward, to LFC,to float a further £12M shares and Moores can buy them or anyone else.I have a strong feeling Moores does not have the cash to buy the £12m shares, which would of made him the majority share holder at LFC.Moores is a very poor business man, as at least 2 Ltd companies Directed by him have gone bust in the past.It sounds like Moores has not handled the cash from the sale of his inheritted empire too well. That is one of the main reasons, I believe Morgan should be the man to take LFC forward into the future.

by **SantaGiveHoullierTheSack** » Wed May 12, 2004 4:29 pm

Sorry but Moores have backed Houllier for far too long, but our results over the past 2 seasons have been poor and we are no where near the top three this season. Radical changes are needed and we should not allow GH to kick out the underperformed players (i.e taking hugh losses) and let the players take the blame. The responsibility of team and tactical selection are with him and if players do not play up to expectation he should take the blame and not the referees, fans or the weather. Let Morgan invest his money and have a seat on the board. He is definately passionate and understand what needs to be done to make us great again.

I am a little uncomfortable if a businessman who grin when presented with a mancs jersey and wow to support our bitter rival, who don't understand football much less LFC wants to influence the club's footballing decision (anyone heard him struggled to name our key players and then called out Miken Oven, Baloss, Jelard will understand my concern). If however his investment is purely commercial in nature, it will be silly to turn him down.

That's my take-away. Let's clear this out of the way before our match against the Toons (if they are still in the hunt after tonight

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