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by **davo_LFC** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:05 am

AlanHansen wrote:We should keep him imo, he has displayed flashes of class and with a bit of tweaking he couuld turn out to be a great player - if him and Moro hit it off -

He's been scoring goals in a side thats struggled to create chances.

i think we have been creating lots of chances,but its just a case of not finishing them off...i mean look at last night 20 odd shots on goal :;):

by **thegreedo** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:15 am

He is cirtainly not the most skillfull player in the world but I have to say , out of all the strikers we currently have at the club the sight of Cisse on the pitch always fills me with the most optimism when we are chasing a goal.

by **Dalglish** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:17 am

stu_the_red wrote:Look at it again, it went directly above the goalkeeper who was on his way down to the floor. Had he simply not moved at all, it would have hit him on the head. It was a good calm finish, but the goalkeeping was extremely questionable.

Hi Stu, surely you can't be talking about Cisse's goal in the Anderlecht away leg ? ? If that voley had hit him on the head he wouldn't have a head left !!!!

Getting back to what benitez is supposed to have said .......He replied that every player has his price but that my price was beyond most & that there were other players ahead of me in that line".

Now to me that sounds like there are more "Marketable" players in Benitez's eyes who would command a better selling price. lets face it , no matter how many Goals Cisse scores between now and January we are unlikely to get anywhere near the price we paid for him ! :Oo:

I've gone on record before saying that IMO Cisse has had a raw deal and not had the chances that others have had at liverpool and I felt a twinge sorry for the ald after his battle back from a terrible injury but in the final analysis he is nowhere near the quality of Henry, Rooney, Horesface or Crespo and perhaps more poignanntly Owen !!! :no

by **Dalglish** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:19 am

thegreedo wrote:He is cirtainly not the most skillfull player in the world but I have to say , out of all the strikers we currently have at the club the sight of Cisse on the pitch always fills me with the most optimism when we are chasing a goal.

Kind of agree and disagree with that statement all at the same time !

Yes , your right he probably is the most likely to score from the strikers we have at present but had we bought (and we still could remember come January) proven Premiership goalscorers then we wouldn;t be mnaking a case for the lad staying !

by **azriahmad** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:59 am

Looking at the strikers' goals in the CL matchday 4, for instance the second Juve goal where Trezeguet chested and calmly slotted, Cisse is not really as good as a finisher but at the moment, he appears to be our best bet at getting goals from the front men.

Nowhere near 14 million but the best we have right now. We need a more prolific striker who is more consistent. Etiher that or Cisse needs to improve his allround game.

by **primodua** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 7:23 am

I saw Cisse's superiority during his early stint in the French Ligue. He is definitely a world class striker. He played the ball simple; he didn't think too long before smacking it right between the posts. He's not like Ruud Van Damme (always at the right place at the right time), Cisse's always created the space around the opposition's defending zone.
IMO he's just not scoring since nobody's assisting him to create the space that he's always wanted. Historically or practically, greatest strike force has always been backed up by good midliners. These midliners know where, when and how to shape passess and goal scoring paths.
Simply, replace drogba with cisse at chelski. He would produce better goal scoring statistic than he does currently with Liverpool. Why? Go ask yourselves.

by **kazza** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:45 am

bigmick wrote:
spion wrote:He replied that every player has his price but that my price was beyond most & that there were other players ahead of me in that line".

Jeez there's no wonder the players get a bit confused at times. Just to clarify, does that mean Rafa wants to cash in on him or not?

I think it means that he is for sale if they can find anyone stupid enough to pay "close" to the 14 mil we paid.

by **tubby** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 11:55 am

azriahmad wrote:Looking at the strikers' goals in the CL matchday 4, for instance the second Juve goal where Trezeguet chested and calmly slotted, Cisse is not really as good as a finisher but at the moment, he appears to be our best bet at getting goals from the front men.

Nowhere near 14 million but the best we have right now. We need a more prolific striker who is more consistent. Etiher that or Cisse needs to improve his allround game.

Well how about Cisses goal from a free kick a few weeks ago. In fact i dont think Trezeguest has ever scored form that far out. Maybe Trezeguet need to 'improve' his allround shooting long game???

Idiot

by **oakton** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:05 pm

primodua wrote:I saw Cisse's superiority during his early stint in the French Ligue. He is definitely a world class striker. He played the ball simple; he didn't think too long before smacking it right between the posts. He's not like Ruud Van Damme (always at the right place at the right time), Cisse's always created the space around the opposition's defending zone.
IMO he's just not scoring since nobody's assisting him to create the space that he's always wanted. Historically or practically, greatest strike force has always been backed up by good midliners. These midliners know where, when and how to shape passess and goal scoring paths.
Simply, replace drogba with cisse at chelski. He would produce better goal scoring statistic than he does currently with Liverpool. Why? Go ask yourselves.

you are overrating him way too much~

by **Big Niall** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:57 pm

Besides speed, I don't think he has anything. He has no footballing brain and how often does he run offside when everybody else can see where the line is?

All those who said how he'd set the league alight and showed clips of his goals should apologies, now you fools.

by **stmichael** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:02 pm

I'll sum it up.

Cisse - cr@p touch, cr@p attitude, cr@p team play, cr@p awareness, cr@p winger, cr@p fashion, cr@p dancing skills.

HOWEVER

15 goals in 26 games is very impressive. If the guy could even develop half a footballing brain (like morientes) he'd be a much better player for it.

by **Paul C** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:31 pm

stmichael wrote:I'll sum it up.

Cisse - cr@p touch, cr@p attitude, cr@p team play, cr@p awareness, cr@p winger, cr@p fashion, cr@p dancing skills.

HOWEVER

15 goals in 26 games is very impressive. If the guy could even develop half a footballing brain (like morientes) he'd be a much better player for it.

Agreed there Mike

by **Espionage** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:10 pm

Personally I think Cisse is :censored:

, but you cant argue with his form at the moment.
Also he looked incredably sharp in the alst few minutes when he came on vs Anderlecht, you could almost sense that he was going to score, he oozed confidence, agression and he was everywhere.....
That is the best i have ever seen him play, if he keeps that up I am sure that he will be the 20+ goal scorer that we have lacked since Michael Owen's glory days

by **drummerphil** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:13 pm

He has being in great form for France........Henry rates him very highly

by **Scottbot** » Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:29 pm

stmichael wrote:I'll sum it up.

Cisse - cr@p touch, cr@p attitude, cr@p team play, cr@p awareness, cr@p winger, cr@p fashion, cr@p dancing skills.

HOWEVER

15 goals in 26 games is very impressive. If the guy could even develop half a footballing brain (like morientes) he'd be a much better player for it.

A bit harsh but paints a pretty accurate picture of the lad. We can all see his he's got goals in him. It's just a question of whether he (and Benitez) have the desire the and the patience to bring the rest of his game up to scratch. Cisse can get better if he gets good coaching and has a manager who believes in him (not sure Rafa is the man for this?)
I believe he would be twice the player if he improved his movement off the ball. I've only seen the lad play (in the flesh) a couple of times but on both occasions i noticed him attacking the wrong areas, mis-timing his runs, misreading the midfielders intentions or getting under his strike partner's feet.

I remember Andy Cole was pretty much a one trick pony when the mancs bought him from Newcastle. There were goals in the lad but he couldn't offer much else to the team. Unfortunately rab.c nesbit worked on his all round game, taught him how to hold the ball up and become a team player.

For me Cisse is a project. There are goals in him but he is VERY raw.

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