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Postby neil » Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:02 pm

Earnshaw?! Here I am Mick, bang on cue, the guy is dreadful. Imagine Earnshaw & Timmy upfront... from spice boys to spacemen, the 2 of em could eat an apple through a tennis racket. Plus he can't play footy.
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Postby bigmick » Fri Oct 28, 2005 7:48 pm

neil wrote:Earnshaw?! Here I am Mick, bang on cue, the guy is dreadful. Imagine Earnshaw & Timmy upfront... from spice boys to spacemen, the 2 of em could eat an apple through a tennis racket. Plus he can't play footy.

Fair play Neil its all about opinions mate. Nice one though for totally disagreeing with me and making me p!ss myself laughing at the same time.  :D
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Postby The Canadian Red Army » Fri Oct 28, 2005 9:05 pm

bigmick wrote:Careful Stoney you'll get slaughtered for suggesting that Earnshaw is a decent player. I said as much last season and got laughed off until the aesthetically challenged and diminutive Welshman returned (I think) the third highest goals per minute played ratio in the Prem, while playing for West Brom.
I see he scored the other night in one of his increasingly rare appearances against Fulham. Typical Earnshaw goal, slid clear by the midfielder (and they never catch him he's like sh!te off a shiny shovel) he moved in on goal before cooly clipping it over the keeper. His record in International football is fantastic and like I say, I am certain he would score goals in a decent side. We'll never ever buy him though so its all pish and nonsense.
Another that I've consistently champiopned is Glenn Johnson. He's fallen out with Maureen now so I reckon you'd have to pay about 3.5 million for an ex International who's completely lost his way. He's about 22 years old though and although he'll never make a full-back while he's got a hole in his jacksy, would make a really good right-sided midfielder IMHO. He's got pace, power, skill and something to prove. If the absolute worse comes to the worst then we could always use him as full-back cover. Absolutely must be worth a punt surely?

wouldnt you want gallas over johnson
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Postby welsh wizzard » Fri Oct 28, 2005 10:46 pm

I mentioned last season about earnshaw and gabbidon, they would do a great job if they were at liverpool and would only get better. I'm not just saying this because i'm welsh but, earnshaw playing off crouch would be some promising pairing. As for gabbidon he will get better and better and a bigger club is just around the corner ready to pounce.
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Postby 115-1073096938 » Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:42 pm

Some of the suggestions of average players here are quite shocking. We need players with quality. Not players like Johnson, Earnshaw and Gabbidon.

These players are averaged size fish in small ponds. It was the same with Wright-Phillips and Crouch, by the looks of it. Its the same with Danny Murphy now. They aren't all good enough for big clubs. Yet they look it as they are there current teams best players. None of the players mentioned have the quality to play at this level.

The lads out there i'd look at are Robbie Keane, Dean Ashton, Jermaine Pennant, Gareth Barry and Stewart Downing. They all have masses of unfulfilled potential and ability.
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Postby supersub » Fri Oct 28, 2005 11:58 pm

John Aldridge was a forward of limited abilities.....Don't get me wrong! Aldo was a fantastic goalscorer with few equals,but some,sadly, failed to see how important a player of his quality,was to Liverpool FC.The likes of Keane,Ashton and Johnson fall into that same catergory...not media superstars but they all way have the knack of being in the right place at the right time....centre-forwards extra sensory perception.
             Aldo was the master....Robbie Keane just about the closest in potential
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Postby welsh wizzard » Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:42 am

yeah so how do the likes of downing, pennent, etc differ from earnshaw and gabbidon, boro and brum are no different to west ham and wba really. I see what your saying in a way what about rio ferdinand, etc but downing i don't think would do anything at a big club, pennent may be could deliver at liverpool. But i think it does have alot to do with not being able to handle the pressure of playing at a big club. Crouch being a striker is finding that out i feel.
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Postby Sabre » Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:21 am

John Aldridge was a forward of limited abilities.....Don't get me wrong! Aldo was a fantastic goalscorer with few equals,but some,sadly, failed to see how important a player of his quality,was to Liverpool FC


Yes, of course he was not Marco Van Basten. But he scored 15-19 goals, as a lone striker in my team, that in the early nineties was utter crap in the midfield. IIRC, he was the first succesful player of the islands in Spain. Michael Robinson and Sammy Lee weren't that great in Osasuna (Robinson not bad). Cunningham was a failure in Rayo Vallecano. Kevin Richardson, from Aston Villa, didn't quite work in my team although he had an excellent long ball passing. And Dalian Atkinson, from Shef Weds. had attitude troubles.

He (Aldo)indeed didn't have powerful ball shooting, he didn't throw free kicks. But he's the smartest, the most clever forward I've seen in Spain in ALL time (that I've been in stadiums 1989-2005). He's an "area fox". His movements were clever, when he wasn't moving to be alone and receive a pass, he was moving to drag two defences with him and leave a hole like this <-----------------------------------> in the defence.

He was not admired only by us, Emilio Butragueño, top scorer of that time, said that "Aldo is competing with me for the top scorer prize, and I'm in Real Madrid and he's in Real Sociedad, that means something about his quality".

He also had the best neck movement and timing to heading  balls.

And his fighting attitude was excellent. I still remember the bruises that Chendo, former Madrid defence had when he got out from Atotxa.

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Postby AwiLas » Sat Oct 29, 2005 10:29 am

Why do Liverpool needs another striker.?. If they really desprately needs strikers, Fowler,Baros and Owen, shouldn't have been sold... You imagine these 3 strikers still in Liverpool and playing against the likes of Chelsea... Even Terry and Co will tremble...
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Postby bigmick » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:08 am

Aldridge was a fantastic player, full stop. There were very few who seriously believed he could in any way shape or form replace ian Rush when he first signed from Oxford. He had been kicking around in the lower divisions all his career, the World and his brother had looked at him but he wasn't "classy enough". Not enough pace mate, won't do it week in week out at a top club etc etc. How wrong could they be?
Cleverness of movement, heart for the battle and natural finishing abilty are fully transportable attributes in a footballer. I only wish to God we had somebody now who was half as good as Aldo and about a quarter as committed. Those who scoff at the mention of players from "lesser" clubs, or scream as is the current vogue "yeh but what about Peter Crouch?" would do well to remember two things. Aldridge also started slowly for Liverpool, and he went on to become a true Anfield legend.
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Postby JBG » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:24 am

Aldridge is a legend, pure and simple.

Felt sorry for him when he was shipped out in 1990.
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Postby drummerphil » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:24 am

hear hear Mick,Aldridge was class i wish we had someone of that calibre leading our attack now
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Postby Mikz » Sat Oct 29, 2005 11:49 am

I agree and when you think -we signed both him and Houghton from Oxford utd. Just goes to prove the you dont ned to look to the big clubs for real stars all the time
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Postby Sabre » Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:09 pm

Oh, just a quick note, I was wrong about Aldo being the first successful British player in Spain. I know he used to be a blue nose, but what a piece of striker Gary Lineker was.

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Postby neil » Sat Oct 29, 2005 12:23 pm

bigmick wrote:do well to remember two things. Aldridge also started slowly for Liverpool, and he went on to become a true Anfield legend.

lifted from lfc.tv "'Aldo', as he was nicknamed, proved a huge success, linking up with other new captures John Barnes and Peter Beardsley in Kenny Dalglish's re-shaped team for the 1987-88 season. He scored in every one of the first nine games of that unforgettable campaign and his 26 goals in 36 outings"

I wondered why I was'nt doing too well memory-wise Mick.
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