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by **stoney** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:57 pm

cisses_gona_get_ya wrote:Dont really like the sound of all this, we would have to pay 4 million buy out clause, then how much extra would he cost? Plus wages, for a 25 year old unknown, this is the same mistake our club has been making for years.
We need to buy quality and for quality you have to pay the price, if we are going to buy another striker then it has to be Dirk Kuijt, works his bloody socks off does the lad, watched him again yesterday in a 4-1 romp over FC Groningen, they are undefeated this season, would'nt mind Kalou and Ghaly either, they are 3 great players.

Your right CGGY we could do with a Kalou but Bonaventure kalou (bro of feyenoord one) now he is a great player. Hes just signed for some french recently think it might have been paris and hes been great already.

by **Houllier=LFC** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:28 pm

I watched their recent game against Betis, to be honest no one in their squad caught my attention except their keeper who seems to have the name Luis Garcia.

by **mikopool** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:51 pm

I doubt he would want to leave and come to Liverpool, we have too many class strikers and we aren't doing as well as the Taffy. Either was I think we will be linked with a striker , and Cisse will be shown the door. Which I am not looking forward to at all.

by **A.B.** » Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:39 pm

stmichael wrote:with getafe doing so well in spain, why would they let him go now?

They don't have a lot of money and w/ good offer they will sell.

by **metalhead** » Tue Oct 18, 2005 10:18 am

Sabre wrote:To be honest, the rumour seems quite serious, since his coach said "we cannot do much if Liverpool comes and pays the fee" with resignation.

Anyway I'm surprised. I watch regularly primera division, I follow it but I have not heard of Riki until this season. Well he's not bad, but he isn't even considered to be selected for the Spanish Squad, when a player shines, people request the player to be in the national squad. This is not the case certainly. Morientes has, so if you expect a better player ... bloody hell

In Anoeta he hasn't shined, and in the wekly highlights hasn't been mentioned until this year, it certainly seems few merits to join a great team such as Liverpool. TBH I haven't seen playing thoroughly (watching 90 mins, his movements, controls) so I'll track him closer in order to have a better opinion.

Anyway I think we need more a winger and a defender. I still rely on Morientes, although I know he's been awful so far and failed two glorious chances against Blackburn. If Liverpool needed a striker, I'd stick to NIhat. He's in his last year, no fee should be paid for next season, and he's the kind of world class player Liverpool needs. I'd be so happy if he came to Liverpool instead of the treacherous Valencia grasps...

I'll watch him and keep you posted, but first thought, thumbs down.

Sabre

Nihat is a terrific striker! he can rip defenders apart and score alot of goals!! seen him play for Real Sociedad! what a striker!

by **Sabre** » Wed Oct 19, 2005 12:43 am

Nihat is a terrific striker! he can rip defenders apart and score alot of goals!! seen him play for Real Sociedad! what a striker!

If that's not enough, he also scores lots of free kicks goals. Not kinda the guy who scores with curved soft balls, but the kind that he hammers the ball and the goalie do not see it.

Might be even an excellent winger, if his scoring aptitudes were not wasted this way, since he crosses well too.

Sabre

by **Sabre** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:36 am

A Getafe supporter (season ticket, watched Getafe even in segunda) that I trust, says this to my question in the forum

Sabre (translated): Hey Javier, now you're here, the mates in Liverpool want to know if this Riki is any good. I haven't seen playing that much, so what do you think?

And He answered

Riki, was nicknamed Pirelli (1) by Gica (2), and the nickname is very appropiate. Excellent left foot, Very quick, if only he learned to raise his head (3) he'd be a class player. I think he'd fit well to the Premiere

(1) Known tyres brand, famous for a announcement which had the slogan "Might without control", that it's what the nickname means.

(2) Gica Craioveanu, versatile ultra veteran, nice Romanian striker.

(3) Raise his head, in Spain, is the ability to look around you and see the best pass, as opposite to being a ball hog. This is applied to players who have good dribbling, but abuse of it, or just don't have the cool blood needed to find the best option.

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Well, hope this gives you a better idea of what you can expect. And, this thursday you'll have my report. Real Sociedad - Getafe .There is liga on thursday, because Spain has to prepare his match against Slovaquia, so I'll do a 90 min tracking of Riki. With 8 games, and 13 points, I'll be objective enough to not insult too much and actually follow the player objectively.

Sabre

by **hawkmoon269** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:39 am

Sabre wrote:(3) Raise his head, in Spain, is the ability to look around you and see the best pass, as opposite to being a ball hog. This is applied to players who have good dribbling, but abuse of it, or just don't have the cool blood needed to find the best option.

Ummm.....remind us of anyone?

by **hawkmoon269** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 10:54 am

From LFCOnline:

Getafe have admitted they have not been approached by Liverpool regarding their striker Riki.
Benitez is believed to be interested in the 25-year-old and the Spanish press have been reporting an imminent £2.5m offer.

But the club president Angel Torres has denied any contact from the Reds.

"At the moment, Liverpool have not spoken to us to present any offer for Riki," he said.

"That is how things stand and we only know the news published in newspapers.

"If a good offer arrives then the club is obliged to study it, but our priority is not to damage the team."

by **JohnBull** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:54 am

The link with Riki has been posted on the Spanish sites for weeks and their experts still only rate it as 3 out of 5 for accuracy.
I've watched the lad a few times this season and I doubt that he'd make an impact in the EPL.

I think that the reality of English football is really sinking in with Raffa and that he'll be even more cautious in his signings from now on.

by **Scottbot** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:12 pm

JohnBull wrote:I think that the reality of English football is really sinking in with Raffa and that he'll be even more cautious in his signings from now on.

Spot on with that JB.

No doubt Rafa thought he had hit the jackpot when he signed Morientes (so did we all.) Of course the lad may come good (i'm not so sure anymore) but you can guarantee the boss will be taking a longer harder look at everyone before making any decisions.

If we bring in a striker in January i'd still say the smart money is on Anelka. Rafa spoke publicly about the player last January and there's a good chance he would have signed were it not for Morientes.

Just out of interest (and hindsight a wonderful thing) How many of you wish we had signed the sulky Frenchman over Nanado?

by **wrighty (not mark!)** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 12:33 pm

Now there's a thought Scottbott. I remember Fowler saying in his autobiography that he was a selfish bast*rd to play with. So, if we do buy him, we will have to play a selfless bast8rd alongside him!

You think he would work in a lone strike role with Gonzales and Simao crossing in?

by **Scottbot** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:00 pm

wrighty (not mark!) wrote:You think he would work in a lone strike role with Gonzales and Simao crossing in?

I think Anelka is well suited to the lone striker role. I know City used him in that capacity some of the time. He's strong, can play with his back to goal, we all know he has blistering pace and is excellent in one on one situations with the keeper. Fowler might have labelled him a selfish sod but i can recall Anelka showing he could hold up the ball and bring others into play when we had him at Anfield. He only scored 4 goals but he created a few more for others. I'm not sure Anelka is wuite as bads the media have us believe. You don't hear that many of his former teamates, managers actually come out and really slate the lad.

I've been thinking about the lone-striker role recently + i've been wondering whether we are missing Baros this season. Most fans agreed that Milan was not well suited to play up top on his own. I would agree with this, mainly because he was a selfish bugger who kept the ball too long and couldn't spot a pass if you shoved it in his face BUT, Milan did bring mobility to the team. He never stopped moving, did a great job running the channels and caused enough problems (some of the time) for the back 4 which enabled others (like Garcia, Gerrard) to do their stuff.

If you look at Chelsea. They play that big clumsy battering ram Dogdoo. I think he is a pretty limited player (he would be struggling in this Liverpool side at the moment), he's not particularly mobile but he can be a handful. He works for them because he has players like Duff, SWP and Robben playing off him. Put Crouch into the that Chelsea team right now and i think he would be very successful (possibly more so than Dogdoo).
Unfortunately we don't have anyone to get close to Duff, SWP or Robben to make Rafa's 4-5-1 work however, it might work if our main striker was more mobile . I don't think Cisse can play the role (atleast not the way Rafa wants him to) but i would say Anelka is quite capable of doing it.

The way i see it. Rafa has 3 options.

1- He perseveres with Crouch or Morientes as the lead man in his 4-5-1

2- He dumps it for the time being untill he can bring in the wide-men he needs

3- He finds himself a more mobile lead man who brings a real goal threat as well as being able to hold the ball up, bring others into play etc (like Anelka or Kujiit) to make his 4-5-1 work

by **stmichael** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:51 pm

Scottbot wrote:Just out of interest (and hindsight a wonderful thing) How many of you wish we had signed the sulky Frenchman over Nanado?

me for one. i also vividly remember that stu the red was another. i have always rated anelka. people harp on about his attitude but you couldn't doubt the guys ability on the pitch. hell he scored 20 goals in a man city team that finished in the bottom six a few years back.

he's twice the player cisse is imo. he showed glimpses of real class when he was here on loan and even to this day i can't believe houllier turned down the chance to sign him in favour of a certain senegalese striker. as class as morientes is, anelka seemed more logical at the time due to his experience of the premiership and the fact that he wasn't champions league cup-tied.

surely he's already sulking at fenerbache by now isn't he?

by **66-1112520797** » Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:06 pm

At first I wouldnt of thought Rafa would look to bring in a new striker in January ,I thought we were looking to strenghten other areas.
But now it appears that we could do with a new striker and that sulky Frenchman mentioned above would do nicely. I also couldnt believe it when Houllier didnt make him a permanent signing , what happened there ?
Nando and Anelka are obviously two different strikers but knowing what I know now I would take Anelka over him any day of the week.

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