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Top · by **jonnymac1979** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:47 pm

Hustler came back last weekend as Luis Garcia 2, managed five posts before I banned him personally myself without asking the other mods. He's another who has had all the chances he's going to get. Same with Meelan, have some patience though.

If Meelan has other ID's, he'll easily be spotted. Just get on with the normal business of the forum and leave the witch hunt to the mods. We're on the case.

Sorry we do such a shit job in your eyes though.

Top · by **woof woof !** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:49 pm

Judge wrote:
LIVERPOOLANYTIME wrote:Haha, what do you expect from someone with the name 'kewell' in their sig.

hiya scrotie

your back

Nice to see how you lads are sticking to the discussion . Continue to talk amongst yourselves ,preferably in another thread .

:kungfu:

Top · by **7_Kewell** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:50 pm

Hustler came back last weekend as Luis Garcia 2, managed five posts before I banned him personally myself without asking the other mods. He's another who has had all the chances he's going to get. Same with Meelan, have some patience though.

If Meelan has other ID's, he'll easily be spotted. Just get on with the normal business of the forum and leave the witch hunt to the mods. We're on the case.

Sorry we do such a job in your eyes though.

I'm not saying the admins are :censored:

, just that they should have a policy of 3 stikes and you're out for good or something because, sadly, there are morons out there whose idea of a good time is logging into a rivals team board and causing trouble. Good to see Hustler got booted out before he started tho!

Top · by **hawkmoon269** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:56 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
meelan#5 wasnt Thomas88 was he??

wouldn't surprise me. Surly the mods can just ban IP's....why do we have to suffer morons coming back under different ID's, only to continue their mindless abuse?

Because most Internet Service Providers (ISP) use Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) to assign IP addresses, therefore the IP Address changes each time the computer is connected to the ISP. It would be totally useless to block a single IP address and hope that you have solved the problem. The banning of the complete subnet (batch of IP addresses) could potentially block legitimate users.

In addition, the use of a proxy server would give the person even more control over hiding their identity.

Top · by **Sabre** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 3:57 pm

No. Different IP addresses

Unfortunately an IP address is not like DNA. Myself, I surf this forum from my job 1, my job 2, and at home, and the latter has Dynamic IP since my bloody ISP is like that.

Sabre

Top · by **7_Kewell** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:01 pm

Because most Internet Service Providers (ISP) use Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) to assign IP addresses, therefore the IP Address changes each time the computer is connected to the ISP. It would be totally useless to block a single IP address and hope that you have solved the problem. The banning of the complete subnet (batch of IP addresses) could potentially block legitimate users.

In addition, the use of a proxy server would give the person even more control over hiding their identity.

good point. How about we have a policy of reporting consistant morons to their ISP? I think the 'threat' of doing this would be enough to scare of 90% of the morons because it would mean their parents/work place would find out their computer has been reported for malicious abuse. Good idea or not?

Top · by **hawkmoon269** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:04 pm

Because the ISP would not view this as an abuse of their system. It's not the same as a criminal/hacking activity.

Top · by **Judge** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:05 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
Because most Internet Service Providers (ISP) use Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol (DHCP) to assign IP addresses, therefore the IP Address changes each time the computer is connected to the ISP. It would be totally useless to block a single IP address and hope that you have solved the problem. The banning of the complete subnet (batch of IP addresses) could potentially block legitimate users.

In addition, the use of a proxy server would give the person even more control over hiding their identity.

good point. How about we have a policy of reporting consistant morons to their ISP? I think the 'threat' of doing this would be enough to scare of 90% of the morons because it would mean their parents/work place would find out their computer has been reported for malicious abuse. Good idea or not?

ive already reported yours twice and your still here :laugh:

Top · by **GunGod** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:11 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
GunGod wrote:My 2 cents, if you would allow me.

First of all, what meelan has done is absolutely unacceptable. I do believe that he might just be a young kid in his early 10s.

However, I really object to his PM being pasted all over the forum. Why? That's because PMs are meant to be private. Though educating the masses in here would be good, what woof has done is to unknowingly give Meelan the cheap thrill that he is seeking. For cases like this, the PM should be forwarded straight to the mods for them to take care of the matter, which they are more than capable of.

In short, by giving meelan the publicity he seeks, it is only encouraging other posters to seek their 5 mins of fame this way.

Nevertheless, I absolutely condemn Meelan's choice of words in his PM to CGGY, and I want to let CGGY know that me, together with most of the forum members in here give him the fullest support in this matter. Don't be afraid, cos nothing's gonna happen to you.

Totally disagree with your perspective . Why on earth should abuse of this nature be swept under the carpet ? . In no way was the sender "seeking a cheap thrill " via publicity" as you put it ,if that was indeed the case he would have posted his garbage in the open forum , perhaps he realised what our reaction would be if we saw such filth and thats why he chose to pm it.

If the original pm had been reported to the mods and the sender had been subsequently banned some people in here (you possibly may have been one of them ) would be asking "What happenend to Meelan 5 ,? he doesn't post in here anymore "

I think it's important that scum are exposed and that members in this forum are aware of what goes on in here .

Perhaps you think that rapists and peadophiles should also have their deeds kept secret ,after all the neighbours might have thought "he was a bit quirky ,but harmless "

I understand where you are coming from Woof, and I hope you listen to what I have to say without being offended.

Thing is, you said such deeds warrant exposure. To some extent I concur with you.

But how's letting all the people in here know about what's going on gonna help the 'victim' in question here? Sure, we will give her our moral support. But will we mobilize and stay vigil at her house right now, just in case meelan meant what he said he would do? You and I know just as well that that's highly unlikely.

Now, the reaction from the people here are pretty much as expected. They start to hurl abuse at meelan and laugh at him. "You are a fool", "Its not as easy as you think to get someone's IP address (or postal address) you sick fu.ck", "he's a bloody idiot that only know how to makes empty threats".

We all know that meelan is somewhere reading all these posts as we speak. Reading all these insulting posts would probably make him feel even more compelled to do what he said he would do. He will feel a higher need to prove us all wrong.

Though it is indeed highly unlikely that meelan would fullfil his threats, but nothing is for certain in this world, especially when we deal with possible psychopaths. While the risk is low, why increase it by challenging him? Why antagonize him and run the risk of the unlikely more possibly happening?

It sounds very defeatist and pacifist, I know. But its easy for me to come out with all guns blazing and blasting meelan with insults, cos I know the reprecussions, if any, are not going to happen on my side, but to CGGY. I am not going to risk her safety with my irresponsible words.

That is of course, not to say that nothing should be done with meelan. As I said, the proper way to deal with it is to deal with how it started in the first place: in private. Give him the proper punishment by making him dissappear from the forum. Or even report this case to the authorities. But the worse thing to do is to invite public outrage at someone who has threatened action. You should have realised that by making it public, you have invited the public to condemn meelan, and increase his anger towards CGGY, and in the process increasing the risks of harm befalling CGGY.

The reason why his PM has been conveniently posted in public is that we all conveniently assume that he's making empty threats. But how do we know for sure? The risk might be low but it makes not sense increasing it, don't you agree?

If we can be honest with ourselves, do we really see the benefits of condemning meelan in public as outweighing the costs?

It's just how I feel, and I have no wish to offend you. I hope you understand.

Top · by **anfieldadorer** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 4:19 pm

Totally sick. :no

I thought meelan was just an annoying cr4p, but he's now getting too far. So sorry for Lynds.

Top · by **woof woof !** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:03 pm

GunGod wrote:I understand where you are coming from Woof, and I hope you listen to what I have to say without being offended.

Thing is, you said such deeds warrant exposure. To some extent I concur with you.

Though it is indeed highly unlikely that meelan would fullfil his threats, but nothing is for certain in this world, especially when we deal with possible psychopaths. While the risk is low, why increase it by challenging him?

It sounds very defeatist and pacifist, I know. . You should have realised that by making it public, you have invited the public to condemn meelan, and increase his anger towards CGGY, and in the process increasing the risks of harm befalling CGGY.

The reason why his PM has been conveniently posted in public is that we all conveniently assume that he's making empty threats. But how do we know for sure? The risk might be low but it makes not sense increasing it, don't you agree?

No I don't Fu*king agree , and I hope YOU'RE not offended by my response to your drivel . You are suggesting on the one hand that meelan is making empty threats ( I agree ) but on the other that by exposing his sick little tirade to the forum I have invited him to turn into a fully fledged psychotic . I say bollox to that theory , if the sad twa't is inded a mental case and not just some abusive bully then the mere fact that Ciggy reported him to the Mods would in itself be sufficient to tip him over . For the record Ciggy herself has expressed her thanks that this individuals activities have been brought to the attention of other forum members if only on the million to one chance he escapes being banished from this forum ,at least the people in here would know the kind of slime they're dealing with .

You say you understand where I'm coming from , well I don't have a clue where you're coming from . The tone of your post is measured and conciliatory and yet the content, although condeming Meelan 5 in part, suggests that you perhaps consider him part victim , you're "sweep it under the carpet and don't upset him" attitude would possibly go down well if you ever decide to take up a position in the social services .

In the meantime your opinion is noted ,however fatuous it may be .

Top · by **drummerphil** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:09 pm

Anyone who abuses or attacks women are fecking cowards,the b@stard needs a good swift kick in the b0llocks.......

Top · by **The_Rock** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:10 pm

7_Kewell wrote:
meelan#5 wasnt Thomas88 was he??

wouldn't surprise me. Surly the mods can just ban IP's....why do we have to suffer morons coming back under different ID's, only to continue their mindless abuse?

Haven't u heard of dynamic IP address allocation ? Most of the broadband ISPs use this......

Top · by **Judge** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:11 pm

can we drop the subject now, and move on.

we dont like that git, we all know that, so lets move on...........ok

btw, sick fuck has just signed in

lock this thread, so that sad bastard cant post on this thread

Top · by **Ciggy** » Thu Sep 22, 2005 5:16 pm

Ive just got back from swimming and low and behold another pm. He is very welcome to come round if he knows where I live, he will never walk again.
meelan#5
LFC Super Member

Group: LFC Members
Posts: 550
Joined: Aug. 2004 Posted: Sep. 22 2005,15:31

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thanks for feeding my ego trip.

That was the most funniest thread i've read.

why have i pmed you though? alas its taking me a whole 3 hours to get your IP address.

i'll be round soon who.re, wet that cu.nt of yours.

(post this PM in the thread for others to read)

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