Our best 11?

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Postby tadhger09 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:55 pm

I was pondering over this earlier and here is what i came up with;

------------------------------Mingolet------------------------------

Johnson---------------Toure--------Agger---------------Enrique

--------------------------------------Lucas--------------------------

-------------------------Stevie--------------------------------------

-----------------------------Coutinho-------------------------------

Moses-------------------------------------------------------Suarez

-----------------------------Sturridge-------------------------------

I think the Keeper, Agger and the two wing backs are nailed on unless Kelly and Sissokho can gain fitness and try and force their case to the manager.

For me its a toss up between Sakho and Toure for the second CB spot. Hard one to call imo.

Lucas should start most games this season unless he picks up an injury, and in that case we would be screwed coz we haven't got appropriate back-up. I will say though that there are certain games through the season where he shouldn't be needed, like Crystal Palace at home for example.

Stevie will also play in most games this season and rightly so unless of course his form takes a sharp down-turn.

For me Coutinho has to play ACM, linking up through the middle with the attack. I don't think he is as effective out wide, plus we need his creativity through the middle where he can influence the game more.

I'd play Moses out wide right and Suarez coming in from the left with Sturridge at the point of the attack. And I would encourage all three players to rotate around the attacking areas of the pitch.

That starting 11 is a very decent side and I can see us picking up a lot more points this season if we can keep everyone fit. That attacking quartet is potent :nod

Anyone care to discuss?
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:57 pm

Mignolet

Johnson
Skrtel/Sakho ( if he plays to his ability )
Agger
Enrique

Lucas
Gerrard
Henderson

Suarez
Sturridge
Coutinho
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Postby tadhger09 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:00 pm

Benny The Noon » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:57 pm wrote:Mignolet

Johnson
Skrtel/Sakho ( if he plays to his ability )
Agger
Enrique

Lucas
Gerrard
Henderson

Suarez
Sturridge
Coutinho


Where would you play Henderson, ACM?
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Postby tadhger09 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:03 pm

I wonder how Ilori would cope in DM? maybe be something to look at in the cups? Very fast and very good 1 v 1's.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:05 pm

Would play him as part of a three behind the three front players - box to box, being fluid going forward and supporting in front of the back 4 , also would provide support through the middle and in the wider areas.

Two in the middle would get ripped apart IMO
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Postby Stu the Red » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:05 pm

tadhger09 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:55 pm wrote:I was pondering over this earlier and here is what i came up with;

------------------------------Mingolet------------------------------

Johnson---------------Toure--------Agger---------------Enrique

--------------------------------------Lucas--------------------------

-------------------------Stevie--------------------------------------

-----------------------------Coutinho-------------------------------

Moses-------------------------------------------------------Suarez

-----------------------------Sturridge-------------------------------

I think the Keeper, Agger and the two wing backs are nailed on unless Kelly and Sissokho can gain fitness and try and force their case to the manager.

For me its a toss up between Sakho and Toure for the second CB spot. Hard one to call imo.

Lucas should start most games this season unless he picks up an injury, and in that case we would be screwed coz we haven't got appropriate back-up. I will say though that there are certain games through the season where he shouldn't be needed, like Crystal Palace at home for example.

Stevie will also play in most games this season and rightly so unless of course his form takes a sharp down-turn.

For me Coutinho has to play ACM, linking up through the middle with the attack. I don't think he is as effective out wide, plus we need his creativity through the middle where he can influence the game more.

I'd play Moses out wide right and Suarez coming in from the left with Sturridge at the point of the attack. And I would encourage all three players to rotate around the attacking areas of the pitch.

That starting 11 is a very decent side and I can see us picking up a lot more points this season if we can keep everyone fit. That attacking quartet is potent :nod

Anyone care to discuss?


Kelly in for Johnson without a doubt, would probably swap Suarez and Coutinho (unsure on that one, would experiment) and would play Aspas instead of Moses.

Never seen Sakho but at £17m I'm hoping he's going to be better than Agger and Toure so he'd probably start with one of those.

We need a right back still, we need two wide players so Luis can go back upfront and we need AT LEAST two central midfielders, especially with Gerrard's age. Hopefully Rodgers will get his ***** in gear and grab Lallana from Southampton before someone else does.
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Postby Stu the Red » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:06 pm

tadhger09 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:55 pm wrote:I was pondering over this earlier and here is what i came up with;

------------------------------Mingolet------------------------------

Johnson---------------Toure--------Agger---------------Enrique

--------------------------------------Lucas--------------------------

-------------------------Stevie--------------------------------------

-----------------------------Coutinho-------------------------------

Moses-------------------------------------------------------Suarez

-----------------------------Sturridge-------------------------------

I think the Keeper, Agger and the two wing backs are nailed on unless Kelly and Sissokho can gain fitness and try and force their case to the manager.

For me its a toss up between Sakho and Toure for the second CB spot. Hard one to call imo.

Lucas should start most games this season unless he picks up an injury, and in that case we would be screwed coz we haven't got appropriate back-up. I will say though that there are certain games through the season where he shouldn't be needed, like Crystal Palace at home for example.

Stevie will also play in most games this season and rightly so unless of course his form takes a sharp down-turn.

For me Coutinho has to play ACM, linking up through the middle with the attack. I don't think he is as effective out wide, plus we need his creativity through the middle where he can influence the game more.

I'd play Moses out wide right and Suarez coming in from the left with Sturridge at the point of the attack. And I would encourage all three players to rotate around the attacking areas of the pitch.

That starting 11 is a very decent side and I can see us picking up a lot more points this season if we can keep everyone fit. That attacking quartet is potent :nod

Anyone care to discuss?


Kelly in for Johnson without a doubt, would probably swap Suarez and Coutinho (unsure on that one, would experiment) and would play Aspas instead of Moses.

Never seen Sakho but at £17m I'm hoping he's going to be better than Agger and Toure so he'd probably start with one of those.

We need a right back still, we need two wide players so Luis can go back upfront and we need AT LEAST two central midfielders, especially with Gerrard's age. Hopefully Rodgers will get his ***** in gear and grab Lallana from Southampton before someone else does.
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Postby damjan193 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:09 pm

We can't play without Henderson at the moment IMO so I'd play him instead of Moses. Suarez would play right on the place of Moses and Countinho would be moved left while Henderson plays behind the strikers.
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Postby tadhger09 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:12 pm

You'd put him in for his engine then? Yeah I can see your reasoning in it . My only worry there though we would be our lined-up would look very defensive. I mean we already have Lucas in there and Stevie also sitting deep so i don't really see the need to put Henderson in there along side those two. I think if we defended from our attack with either one of the front three coming back to help depending on which area of the pitch the support was needed and besides, Coutinho is no slouch when it comes to tracking back.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:15 pm

We need to be a bit more solid and defensive

The front three will create and score - Henderson and Gerrard will chip in as well

But the main reason to have the three is to give protection that allows the fullbacks to bomb forward to support
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Postby tadhger09 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:18 pm

StuYesThatStu » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:06 pm wrote:
tadhger09 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:55 pm wrote:I was pondering over this earlier and here is what i came up with;

------------------------------Mingolet------------------------------

Johnson---------------Toure--------Agger---------------Enrique

--------------------------------------Lucas--------------------------

-------------------------Stevie--------------------------------------

-----------------------------Coutinho-------------------------------

Moses-------------------------------------------------------Suarez

-----------------------------Sturridge-------------------------------

I think the Keeper, Agger and the two wing backs are nailed on unless Kelly and Sissokho can gain fitness and try and force their case to the manager.

For me its a toss up between Sakho and Toure for the second CB spot. Hard one to call imo.

Lucas should start most games this season unless he picks up an injury, and in that case we would be screwed coz we haven't got appropriate back-up. I will say though that there are certain games through the season where he shouldn't be needed, like Crystal Palace at home for example.

Stevie will also play in most games this season and rightly so unless of course his form takes a sharp down-turn.

For me Coutinho has to play ACM, linking up through the middle with the attack. I don't think he is as effective out wide, plus we need his creativity through the middle where he can influence the game more.

I'd play Moses out wide right and Suarez coming in from the left with Sturridge at the point of the attack. And I would encourage all three players to rotate around the attacking areas of the pitch.

That starting 11 is a very decent side and I can see us picking up a lot more points this season if we can keep everyone fit. That attacking quartet is potent :nod

Anyone care to discuss?


Kelly in for Johnson without a doubt, would probably swap Suarez and Coutinho (unsure on that one, would experiment) and would play Aspas instead of Moses.

Never seen Sakho but at £17m I'm hoping he's going to be better than Agger and Toure so he'd probably start with one of those.

We need a right back still, we need two wide players so Luis can go back upfront and we need AT LEAST two central midfielders, especially with Gerrard's age. Hopefully Rodgers will get his ***** in gear and grab Lallana from Southampton before someone else does.



I like Kelly myself and he is probably a better defender than Glen, but the one thing Glen has is speed and the ability to run at teams. This is a match made in heaven for Rodgers, thats the way he wants his full backs to operate, more like wing backs.
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Postby tadhger09 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:26 pm

Benny The Noon » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:15 pm wrote:We need to be a bit more solid and defensive

The front three will create and score - Henderson and Gerrard will chip in as well

But the main reason to have the three is to give protection that allows the fullbacks to bomb forward to support



You make perfect sense but i cant see the manager playing with Henderson in there now that he has Moses, we mustn't forget that the manager is very attack minded and sets his teams out to attack first and foremost. I think the purchase of Sakho was a marker, he is a speed merchant and also good in the tackle and in 1 v 1's. this leads me to believe we will be playing with a much higher line, pushing our aponents back and compressing the pitch, leaving less space for gaps in the middle.
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Postby woof woof ! » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:28 pm

Well, if we're playing Football Manager

.                                                    Mignolet

Johnson                      Toure                                     Agger                    Enrique


                                                    Lucas

                      Henderson                                            Gerrard   

                                                Coutinho

                       
                        Suarez                                     Sturridge         

Haven't used any of the new signings as I've not yet seen them perform in our shirt.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:33 pm

tadhger09 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:26 pm wrote:
Benny The Noon » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:15 pm wrote:We need to be a bit more solid and defensive

The front three will create and score - Henderson and Gerrard will chip in as well

But the main reason to have the three is to give protection that allows the fullbacks to bomb forward to support



You make perfect sense but i cant see the manager playing with Henderson in there now that he has Moses, we mustn't forget that the manager is very attack minded and sets his teams out to attack first and foremost. I think the purchase of Sakho was a marker, he is a speed merchant and also good in the tackle and in 1 v 1's. this leads me to believe we will be playing with a much higher line, pushing our aponents back and compressing the pitch, leaving less space for gaps in the middle.


The manager will learn just like he did last season - two in the middle will get overrun and there will be no protection for the full backs - it's what happened at the start of last season until Henderson came into the team. You need someone like Henderson in the middle if you have a severe lack of power and strength in the middle - adding numbers will improve that. No point being all attacking if you can't actually get the ball because your midfield is outnumbered. The high line will also get exposed by any team with pace.
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Postby Stu the Red » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:35 pm

tadhger09 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:18 pm wrote:
StuYesThatStu » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:06 pm wrote:
tadhger09 » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:55 pm wrote:I was pondering over this earlier and here is what i came up with;

------------------------------Mingolet------------------------------

Johnson---------------Toure--------Agger---------------Enrique

--------------------------------------Lucas--------------------------

-------------------------Stevie--------------------------------------

-----------------------------Coutinho-------------------------------

Moses-------------------------------------------------------Suarez

-----------------------------Sturridge-------------------------------

I think the Keeper, Agger and the two wing backs are nailed on unless Kelly and Sissokho can gain fitness and try and force their case to the manager.

For me its a toss up between Sakho and Toure for the second CB spot. Hard one to call imo.

Lucas should start most games this season unless he picks up an injury, and in that case we would be screwed coz we haven't got appropriate back-up. I will say though that there are certain games through the season where he shouldn't be needed, like Crystal Palace at home for example.

Stevie will also play in most games this season and rightly so unless of course his form takes a sharp down-turn.

For me Coutinho has to play ACM, linking up through the middle with the attack. I don't think he is as effective out wide, plus we need his creativity through the middle where he can influence the game more.

I'd play Moses out wide right and Suarez coming in from the left with Sturridge at the point of the attack. And I would encourage all three players to rotate around the attacking areas of the pitch.

That starting 11 is a very decent side and I can see us picking up a lot more points this season if we can keep everyone fit. That attacking quartet is potent :nod

Anyone care to discuss?


Kelly in for Johnson without a doubt, would probably swap Suarez and Coutinho (unsure on that one, would experiment) and would play Aspas instead of Moses.

Never seen Sakho but at £17m I'm hoping he's going to be better than Agger and Toure so he'd probably start with one of those.

We need a right back still, we need two wide players so Luis can go back upfront and we need AT LEAST two central midfielders, especially with Gerrard's age. Hopefully Rodgers will get his ***** in gear and grab Lallana from Southampton before someone else does.



I like Kelly myself and he is probably a better defender than Glen, but the one thing Glen has is speed and the ability to run at teams. This is a match made in heaven for Rodgers, thats the way he wants his full backs to operate, more like wing backs.


Johnson's awful. Simple as that. Kelly's a decent player if not spectacular.
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