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Postby Hustler 2 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:12 pm

StuYesThatStu » Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:41 pm wrote:I nearly posted something similar, but the reality is Hustler just doesn't get it.

Think he's a bit simple to be honest, best to just place him on ignore. :D


That's rich coming from you.

Whats the point of Coutinho being in the team every game, if he doesn't show up  ???

he ain't kaka you know. We bought him off Inter as he couldn't get in their team. A fringe player.

He has it all to prove, and will probably blow hot and cold all season. Like most of our personnel.

that's what happens when you buy cheap quality. I'm not a massive fan.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:19 pm

Are you really criticising Coutinho because he has had a quieter start to the season and his form is just a bit down at the moment ( yet still creating chances ) ???

Cheap Quality ?! Yes he was cheap for a player of his high quality ability
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Postby Stu the Red » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:21 pm

Ace fair enough, you've clearly got your opinion on Cannavaro who for me is without a doubt the best I've ever seen and I have my opinion. I don't think we're going to agree (also for me Jagielka is shocking on the ball, lets him down big time).

But what I will say is I think we're singing from the same sheet but wording things differently. Of course I want my defenders to defend. But I think the most important attributes are always the ability to play. I think without those, you're wasting your time. As I said earlier though mate, I count those as basics. Johnson for me lacks all of those attributes. But he's physically as good as there is out there and defensively he's not as bad as people make out.

What annoys me is attacks breaking down constantly, possession given away cheaply. Its criminal and players on £90,000 a week shouldn't be amateurish in these departments. At the end of the day, if your team has the ball, the opposition isn't going to score. The more starved of possession someone is, the more anxious to make it count when they get it and so on.

Also, if you have someone behind you who keeps making incorrect decisions, it effects your game to, you wouldn't make that run because you know you won't get found, you don't try the one two because you won't get it back... etc etc etc.

Players obviously have difference strengths, maybe centre half is the exception to the rule where those things aren't "AS important" but you still need to have these things to be a truely great side. You look at Sami at his best, the lad was exceptional, he was like a midfielder at times with his ability on the ball. Thats what made him stand out for me. He had fantastic defensive attributes, but could also pass and play too.
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Postby Hustler 2 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:35 pm

Benny The Noon » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:19 pm wrote:Are you really criticising Coutinho because he has had a quieter start to the season and his form is just a bit down at the moment ( yet still creating chances ) ???

Cheap Quality ?! Yes he was cheap for a player of his high quality ability


I think you want to reserve judgement mate, until he actually does something amazing for the club.
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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:37 pm

Hustler 2 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:35 pm wrote:
Benny The Noon » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:19 pm wrote:Are you really criticising Coutinho because he has had a quieter start to the season and his form is just a bit down at the moment ( yet still creating chances ) ???

Cheap Quality ?! Yes he was cheap for a player of his high quality ability


I think you want to reserve judgement mate, until he actually does something amazing for the club.


What are you waiting for him to do exactly ? Define amazing for me

8 assists in 17 prem games is pretty special
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:00 pm

eds » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:01 pm wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:23 pm wrote:
Its a bit strange ,but I could never bring myself to dislike Keane with the same venom I held for the rest of the team. I don't think he ever talked anything but sense ,and in much the same respect as Scholes held a revered silence /grudging respect when it came to Liverpool.


You're kidding right?


Do you detect the merest semblance of a smiley following my opinion on Keane ?
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Postby RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:00 pm

eds » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:01 pm wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:23 pm wrote:
Its a bit strange ,but I could never bring myself to dislike Keane with the same venom I held for the rest of the team. I don't think he ever talked anything but sense ,and in much the same respect as Scholes held a revered silence /grudging respect when it came to Liverpool.


You're kidding right?


Do you detect the merest semblance of a smiley following my opinion on Keane ?
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Postby Thommo's perm » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:03 pm

RED BEERGOGGLES » Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:00 pm wrote:
eds » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:01 pm wrote:
RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:23 pm wrote:
Its a bit strange ,but I could never bring myself to dislike Keane with the same venom I held for the rest of the team. I don't think he ever talked anything but sense ,and in much the same respect as Scholes held a revered silence /grudging respect when it came to Liverpool.


You're kidding right?


Do you detect the merest semblance of a smiley following my opinion on Keane ?


Keane was one of the premierships greatest ever players, which was balanced out with him being the biggest cu'nt ever to have played here...
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Postby Hustler 2 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:46 pm

Benny The Noon » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:37 pm wrote:
Hustler 2 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:35 pm wrote:
Benny The Noon » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:19 pm wrote:Are you really criticising Coutinho because he has had a quieter start to the season and his form is just a bit down at the moment ( yet still creating chances ) ???

Cheap Quality ?! Yes he was cheap for a player of his high quality ability


I think you want to reserve judgement mate, until he actually does something amazing for the club.


What are you waiting for him to do exactly ? Define amazing for me

A 50 yard dribble, then stick it in the top corner of the net, like all brazilians should.
Or like Alonso, score from 50 yards. Thats special.
But, he cant dribble, and cant score/ shoot on target.
We already have one dud useless Brazilian in the side, Lucas. Do we need another?
Against Man U, he was awful
Simples ;)
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Postby Hustler 2 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:52 pm

Benny The Noon » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:19 pm wrote:
8 assists in 17 prem games is pretty special

8 in 17 is garbage. 17 in 17 is impressive.
Simples
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Postby RedAnt » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:05 pm

Hustler 2 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:52 pm wrote:
Benny The Noon » Fri Sep 13, 2013 5:19 pm wrote:
8 assists in 17 prem games is pretty special

8 in 17 is garbage. 17 in 17 is impressive.
Simples


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Postby Benny The Noon » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:48 pm

:laugh:
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Postby Stu the Red » Sat Sep 14, 2013 12:22 pm

Hustler 2 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:46 pm wrote:
A 50 yard dribble, then stick it in the top corner of the net, like all brazilians should.
Or like Alonso, score from 50 yards. Thats special.
But, he cant dribble, and cant score/ shoot on target.
We already have one dud useless Brazilian in the side, Lucas. Do we need another?
Against Man U, he was awful
Simples ;)


Simples... a bit like you!!! :no
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Postby bunglemark2 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 9:16 am

StuYesThatStu » Sat Sep 14, 2013 11:22 am wrote:
Hustler 2 » Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:46 pm wrote:
A 50 yard dribble, then stick it in the top corner of the net, like all brazilians should.
Or like Alonso, score from 50 yards. Thats special.
But, he cant dribble, and cant score/ shoot on target.
We already have one dud useless Brazilian in the side, Lucas. Do we need another?
Against Man U, he was awful
Simples ;)


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Postby devaney » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:38 pm

Look mate I really don't know what planet your from but you are literally the only Liverpool supporter that I have heard criticise PC in such an idiotic manner. New to the Premiership only last season and he very quickly made the likes of Downing look very very average. Given his age I really don't know what you are expecting. He is bound to blow hot and cold from time to time. Just a real shame that you seem to be incapable of recognising when he is hot.
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