RED BEERGOGGLES » Tue May 29, 2012 11:42 pm wrote:ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue May 29, 2012 11:19 pm wrote:even if he is any good mate he`s going to struggle because we are not shopping in harrods like all our rivals are. and those rivals arent managed by mugs either they are managed by some of the best managers there has ever been in the english game.
imo we are not going to break into the top 4 with a management by commitee set up and a moneyball `vaue in the market` type of transfer philosophy.
infact i got a bit of a shock when i saw agger is as short as 6/4 to go to barcelona, i thought he`d be about 10-1 or something, dont like the sound of that. i hope this new appointment hasnt underwhelmed a few of our players too.
See that's the part I don't understand we have seen Liverpool win every conceivable trophy available in our time ,and yet some of us (more longer in the tooth)
fans shall we say ,are showing a distinct lack of patience and faith in the club .... and that mate bothers me ,I mean I can understand the posters who have
only ever seen us win the Champions League or the FA cup ,but fans who have witnessed our greatest halcyon days should really know better .
It will take faith and the unity of the fans to push this team back where we belong ,but nowhere not once (albeit the incredibly naive )has anyone stated this
will be a rapid transformation ,this club needs the time to grow again mate ,and more than anything needs the fans united in backing our resurgence .
the problem with being long in the tooth though mate is that i`ve lost count of how many of these `5 year plans` and `brave new dawns` ive seen come and go over the last 20 odd years.
god knows how many times i`ve seen us `turn corners`, `put in foundations` and be `10 games away from greatness`
in reality though the only teams that have gatecrashed the established order at the top of the division all spent big money (blackburn, chelsea and city) and for all the talk of football changing and being a different game these days the one constant is that the team with the best players generally wins the league.
i dont think this moneyball malarky will make us the team with all the best players, we might find `undervalued players in the market` and we might pick up a few players for 6 or 7 million that we sell for double or tripe that but we arent going to find 11 of those all at once. and for every one of those that are a success we will sign at least two or three that are flops. thats at the very least.
some fans are optimistic now because thats what a change of manager brings, it doesnt matter if you are in the prem or in the blue square every fan is the same, when their club brings in a new manager they start to convince themselves that this fella is the one to bring the glory days back.
i was the same once myself, i was made up when souness arrived, he was nearly as big a legend as dalglish for his feats in a red shirt and he revolutionized football in scotland, instead of players coming south he turned a 100 years of tradition on it`s head and had english players going north, he dragged rangers out of the stone age and took on the bigots by signing catholic`s (which caused a huge storm at the time) and he won trophy after trophy with his side playing entertaining football with skillfull players like dave cooper on the wing. souness ticked every box, he was young, dynamic, unafraid to make huge decisions (signing mo johnston under the noses of celtic) and was a great, great player himself who had brought idea`s back from italy. he looked like martinez and rodgers on steroids and he was walking into a club where the fanbase worshipped him. it couldnt go wrong.
every manager we`ve had over the last 20 years all seemed to be `the one` at the time, wether it was roy going back to the bootroom philosophy and playing great football or houllier who was going to drag this club into the 21st century it`s always been the same.
this is the first time in 20 years though that i`ve actually thought that we are in a state of managed decline, considering we are the second biggest club in this country i think imo that we are showing a startling lack of ambition by gambling on a manager that has 1 years top flight experience with a mid table club.
with this new management structure that has never worked in england and with this buying players undervalued by the market transfer philosophy i`ll be absolutely amazed if it works. the only hope i`ve got is that i dont actually think our squad is that bad, i just hope we manage to overperform next season as much as we under performed this season and somehow get into the top 4 and then the yanks decide to spend big, if we dont get top 4 next season this current philosophy we have now will just see the likes of suarez and even agger etc want to leave the club, they arent going to waste the best years of their career`s waiting for moneyball signings to develop especially when they have the chance to join the likes of barcelona and city.
gonna be the death of you someday MH.
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