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they are taking the p1$$ imo, if these 2 are the best names that that cockney consultancy firm can come up with then FSG should have f**king sacked them.
but it`s got nothing to do with finding the best manager for LFC this whole process has been about finding the best yes man for FSG.
i honestly couldnt give a sh1.te which one of these 2 gets the job and thats not bravado i just honestly dont care anymore.
the 2 of them should be nowhere near the job just like they`d be nowhere near the chelsea, united, city or arsenal jobs.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue May 29, 2012 6:22 pm wrote:they are taking the p1$$ imo, if these 2 are the best names that that cockney consultancy firm can come up with then FSG should have f**king sacked them.
but it`s got nothing to do with finding the best manager for LFC this whole process has been about finding the best yes man for FSG.
i honestly couldnt give a sh1.te which one of these 2 gets the job and thats not bravado i just honestly dont care anymore.
the 2 of them should be nowhere near the job just like they`d be nowhere near the chelsea, united, city or arsenal jobs.

whilst I agree with the sentiment I think we need to understand the current position of LFC, we haven't competed in the CL for a number of years now. Why would a seasoned CL manager come to Liverpool where City and Man U have two places tied up and Chelsea have the resources to make sure they get there? It's a big ask to get us back to the pinnacle of European football, I know we've achieved a lot in the past but I'm sure most managers would go to a club where they have a really good chance of adding to the cabinet.

FSg aren't going to just throw money into the club ala Roman and the Sheikh, they're trying to balance the books and offer us a sustainable future but with no CL, its about having to do more with less. Chelsea, United, City and Arsenal wouldn't go for our targets because they have more to offer - not so much Arsneal but thats another story

Oh ffs, calm down. How do you ever cope with life when you seem to get so frustrated just checking on gossip?

Relax, what will be, will be, and what we dont know, we cant make anything of, so sit back and hope for the best.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue May 29, 2012 5:22 pm wrote:they are taking the p1$$ imo, if these 2 are the best names that that cockney consultancy firm can come up with then FSG should have f**king sacked them.
but it`s got nothing to do with finding the best manager for LFC this whole process has been about finding the best yes man for FSG.
i honestly couldnt give a sh1.te which one of these 2 gets the job and thats not bravado i just honestly dont care anymore.
the 2 of them should be nowhere near the job just like they`d be nowhere near the chelsea, united, city or arsenal jobs.

You dont know that. What kind of company do you think these guys run going by their handling of the Red Sox? Do you think they want someone whos going to politely nod and maintain Liverpools current mid table obscurity or someone they feel will help the club to strive forward and enable them to maximize their investment?

PLEASE STOP MAKING ASSUMPTIONS THAT HAVE NO EVIDENCE TO BACK THEM UP.

If six months down the line the Reds are sitting in 9th and Martinez or whoever takes the helm looks totally out of his depth then let fly by all means but until then please let them pick their candidate in whatever way they see fit, you are becoming a one man conspiracy theory on FSGs ulterior motives and no good is going to come of it

Greavesie » Tue May 29, 2012 5:28 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue May 29, 2012 6:22 pm wrote:they are taking the p1$$ imo, if these 2 are the best names that that cockney consultancy firm can come up with then FSG should have f**king sacked them.
but it`s got nothing to do with finding the best manager for LFC this whole process has been about finding the best yes man for FSG.
i honestly couldnt give a sh1.te which one of these 2 gets the job and thats not bravado i just honestly dont care anymore.
the 2 of them should be nowhere near the job just like they`d be nowhere near the chelsea, united, city or arsenal jobs.

whilst I agree with the sentiment I think we need to understand the current position of LFC, we haven't competed in the CL for a number of years now. Why would a seasoned CL manager come to Liverpool where City and Man U have two places tied up and Chelsea have the resources to make sure they get there? It's a big ask to get us back to the pinnacle of European football, I know we've achieved a lot in the past but I'm sure most managers would go to a club where they have a really good chance of adding to the cabinet.

FSg aren't going to just throw money into the club ala Roman and the Sheikh, they're trying to balance the books and offer us a sustainable future but with no CL, its about having to do more with less. Chelsea, United, City and Arsenal wouldn't go for our targets because they have more to offer - not so much Arsneal but thats another story

a seasoned CL manager? i`m pretty sure i know a seasoned CL manager who has won the thing, got to another final and got to another semi final beating the likes of barcelona (at the nou camp when they were reigning champions) real madrid, inter milan, juventus, ac milan, chelsea, arsenal, marseilles, psv, bayer leverkusen (when they were german champions) and many other teams who would love to manage the club.

burjennio » Tue May 29, 2012 5:31 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue May 29, 2012 5:22 pm wrote:they are taking the p1$$ imo, if these 2 are the best names that that cockney consultancy firm can come up with then FSG should have f**king sacked them.
but it`s got nothing to do with finding the best manager for LFC this whole process has been about finding the best yes man for FSG.
i honestly couldnt give a sh1.te which one of these 2 gets the job and thats not bravado i just honestly dont care anymore.
the 2 of them should be nowhere near the job just like they`d be nowhere near the chelsea, united, city or arsenal jobs.

You dont know that. What kind of company do you think these guys run going by their handling of the Red Sox? Do you think they want someone whos going to politely nod and maintain Liverpools current mid table obscurity or someone they feel will help the club to strive forward and enable them to maximize their investment?

PLEASE STOP MAKING ASSUMPTIONS THAT HAVE NO EVIDENCE TO BACK THEM UP.

If six months down the line the Reds are sitting in 9th and Martinez or whoever takes the helm looks totally out of his depth then let fly by all means but until then please let them pick their candidate in whatever way they see fit, you are becoming a one man conspiracy theory on FSGs ulterior motives and no good is going to come of it

they have said as much themselves lad, they are not interested in people like capello or benitez because they couldnt work within their new managerial set up.
in other words they dont want anyone with an opinion

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue May 29, 2012 6:36 pm wrote:

Greavesie » Tue May 29, 2012 5:28 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue May 29, 2012 6:22 pm wrote:they are taking the p1$$ imo, if these 2 are the best names that that cockney consultancy firm can come up with then FSG should have f**king sacked them.
but it`s got nothing to do with finding the best manager for LFC this whole process has been about finding the best yes man for FSG.
i honestly couldnt give a sh1.te which one of these 2 gets the job and thats not bravado i just honestly dont care anymore.
the 2 of them should be nowhere near the job just like they`d be nowhere near the chelsea, united, city or arsenal jobs.

whilst I agree with the sentiment I think we need to understand the current position of LFC, we haven't competed in the CL for a number of years now. Why would a seasoned CL manager come to Liverpool where City and Man U have two places tied up and Chelsea have the resources to make sure they get there? It's a big ask to get us back to the pinnacle of European football, I know we've achieved a lot in the past but I'm sure most managers would go to a club where they have a really good chance of adding to the cabinet.

FSg aren't going to just throw money into the club ala Roman and the Sheikh, they're trying to balance the books and offer us a sustainable future but with no CL, its about having to do more with less. Chelsea, United, City and Arsenal wouldn't go for our targets because they have more to offer - not so much Arsneal but thats another story

a seasoned CL manager? i`m pretty sure i know a seasoned CL manager who has won the thing, got to another final and got to another semi final beating the likes of barcelona (at the nou camp when they were reigning champions) real madrid, inter milan, juventus, ac milan, chelsea, arsenal, marseilles, psv, bayer leverkusen (when they were german champions) and many other teams who would love to manage the club.

So now the seasoned manager becomes only Rafa - so basically you're complaining that Rafa isn't being touted? Rafa's the only seasoned CL manager we can (realistically) attract but there's so many obvious dangers in appointing him. Coupled with the fact I remember the misery of his final season at Liverpool. I'd love Pep or Klopp but let's face it its against us

You remember the final season - I remember the ones before that a lot more

So long as Van Gaal is DOF they can have Basil Brush as manager for all I care at this point 

Benny The Noon » Tue May 29, 2012 6:44 pm wrote:You remember the final season - I remember the ones before that a lot more

wow, thats a fantastic means of putting words in my mouth Benny. You do remember I was pretty pro rafa right? I remember his whole tenure you prat

Look, rafa was great for us, I'll be the last to say otherwise but lets face it mate the last season it was misery at our club. I know he had to work with H and G, the cowboy kunts but he also has his faults as well, just because he worked with pish owners doesn't absolve him of any responsibility. Would you take FSG sacking Rafa if we had a repeat performance of last season? I'm sure FSG don't want to tie their hands and hire another former manager who is well respected

The one thing these 2 have in common, they've both managed Swansea 

If it ends up being Rogers, we'll have a cheap man's barcelona style of play for years to come.

On a more serious note, hiring a manager at a high profile club is very similar to buying an established, world-class international or a talented young player. Unfortunately for Rafa, he has been out of management for a while now and judging purely by managerial record, he hasn't had a good one in recent history. I'd love for him to come back, but our owners are the ones investing and paying the manager's salary. I'm certain they have a slightly different perspective on bringing him back.

I'm just concerned about the summer transfer window though. We are not attractive to a number of world-class, exciting, consistent players. Our team needs a massive injection of creativity and finishing. We would have to take a chance on relative unknowns as far as the 'world class' international scene is concerned.

[quote="Greavesie » Tue May 29, 2012 5:40 pm

So now the seasoned manager becomes only Rafa - so basically you're complaining that Rafa isn't being touted? Rafa's the only seasoned CL manager we can (realistically) attract but there's so many obvious dangers in appointing him. Coupled with the fact I remember the misery of his final season at Liverpool. I'd love Pep or Klopp but let's face it its against us

capello has won the CL and so has van gaal, why not make him manager instead of giving him this DoF role that he doesnt apparently want (he wants to manage the team) and doesnt work in england?
as i said you cant possibly be telling me that those 2 are the best names a london consultancy firm can come up with for a team that has won more european cups than barcelona. there are only 2 clubs on the entire continent of europe who have won more european cups than us mate, and if you take away real madrids 5 in a row from the late 50`s when the competition was by invite we`ve won more than even them too in the modern era!

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue May 29, 2012 6:54 pm wrote:[quote="Greavesie » Tue May 29, 2012 5:40 pm

So now the seasoned manager becomes only Rafa - so basically you're complaining that Rafa isn't being touted? Rafa's the only seasoned CL manager we can (realistically) attract but there's so many obvious dangers in appointing him. Coupled with the fact I remember the misery of his final season at Liverpool. I'd love Pep or Klopp but let's face it its against us

capello has won the CL and so has van gaal, why not make him manager instead of giving him this DoF role that he doesnt apparently want (he wants to manage the team) and doesnt work in england?
as i said you cant possibly be telling me that those 2 are the best names a london consultancy firm can come up with for a team that has won more european cups than barcelona. there are only 2 clubs on the entire continent of europe who have won more european cups than us mate, and if you take away real madrids 5 in a row from the late 50`s when the competition was by invite we`ve won more than even them too in the modern era!

Come on mate that's 5 European cups won in the past, you want to assess the chances of us winning another one before Barca, City, Chelsea, Man U or Real? Get real

I love LFC and pride myself on the history of the club but we'll find it extremely difficult to attract a top manager based on what we've achieved in the past

Greavesie » Tue May 29, 2012 5:58 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue May 29, 2012 6:54 pm wrote:[quote="Greavesie » Tue May 29, 2012 5:40 pm

So now the seasoned manager becomes only Rafa - so basically you're complaining that Rafa isn't being touted? Rafa's the only seasoned CL manager we can (realistically) attract but there's so many obvious dangers in appointing him. Coupled with the fact I remember the misery of his final season at Liverpool. I'd love Pep or Klopp but let's face it its against us

capello has won the CL and so has van gaal, why not make him manager instead of giving him this DoF role that he doesnt apparently want (he wants to manage the team) and doesnt work in england?
as i said you cant possibly be telling me that those 2 are the best names a london consultancy firm can come up with for a team that has won more european cups than barcelona. there are only 2 clubs on the entire continent of europe who have won more european cups than us mate, and if you take away real madrids 5 in a row from the late 50`s when the competition was by invite we`ve won more than even them too in the modern era!

Come on mate that's 5 European cups won in the past, you want to assess the chances of us winning another one before Barca, City, Chelsea, Man U or Real? Get real

I love LFC and pride myself on the history of the club but we'll find it extremely difficult to attract a top manager based on what we've achieved in the past

of course it`s things like that that attract managers to clubs.
maybe we wouldnt get a guardiola or mourinho mainly because we dont have the money to back them in the transfer market but we could certainly get a benitez, capello or van gaal, you know, someone thats actually won something.
we are the second biggest club in england, the home of football and the home of the richest league in the world and you are trying to tell me that the only managers interested in managing us are a mid table manager and a perennial relegation dodger?
come off it mate! i bet that consultancy firm got paid a fortune as well.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue May 29, 2012 5:22 pm wrote:they are taking the p1$$ imo, if these 2 are the best names that that cockney consultancy firm can come up with then FSG should have f**king sacked them.
but it`s got nothing to do with finding the best manager for LFC this whole process has been about finding the best yes man for FSG.
i honestly couldnt give a sh1.te which one of these 2 gets the job and thats not bravado i just honestly dont care anymore.
the 2 of them should be nowhere near the job just like they`d be nowhere near the chelsea, united, city or arsenal jobs.

the best part of all this 'in house/behind closed doors' process is watching super "born in scotty rd lar" fans like yourself, sos, and half a dozen jug heads on rawk (one very familiar female poster)implode, haha fuchen luv it. If you cant support the club, well dont, no biggy.