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getting klopp would be a huge coup for FSG, he`s one name that would get the fans back onside again and it would also send out the message that the club means business.
he`d get time as well, the fans wont get restless if he has a poor start but i`m not sure that would be the case with martinez or rodgers.
come on FSG, get klopp!

If anyone on here is deluded enough to think that we will gain qualification to the CL in the next 2-3 seasons? then im sorry but your living in a dream world! martinez given time will have us playing a game that will trouble alot of sides!  he would also need 2-3 seasons to become the manager i know he can be but to think that we are still big enough to say we want CL football within a season is more fansifull than saying you want frankie boyle to do a tour of the best knock knock jokes!!!  we were in turmoil! a shell of a club after the hicks and gillett era! to blame kenny for wasting £120m is an absolute joke! we were heading for relegation under hicks and gillett! they wanted to sell gerrard, torres, pepe, carragher, agger, skertel etc etc to get a bigger return on their investment (investment being a joke, irony)  they didn't care about us, when the champions league money went we were dead weight to them! we now have owners who brought kenny in and he galvanised the team! he brought us to two cup finals and 8th in the league, with the suarez affair and lucas out it seemed like a good season to me, but the owners knew that kenny had taken liverpool as far as he could have and i for one will be eternally greatfull to the guy!  If we can get martinez and give him time he will deliver! but with some of the fans at my club hell bent on knowing every little detail of what goes on behind closed doors, (or the liverpool way, as it used to be called) it makes us a club of contradictions!!!  I know what the response will be to this message and to be honest, i kind of expect it but if every fan just looks at where we have come from in the last 6 years to now, then they will see that it can't be fixed over night! if we want a better brand of football then we have to be patient! we can't spend like chelsea and city, we don't have a title challanging side for the big names to drop straight into like Utd and at the moment spurs and arsenal would beat us to any signing we wanted head to head! and by my reconing that is 5 top top sides for 4 CL places!  so realistically what are peoples expectaions??? wether is 5th or 8th it doesn't make much of a difference and this year we could have finnished 4th with no end result!

garethfeb80 » Mon May 28, 2012 12:51 pm wrote:If anyone on here is deluded enough to think that we will gain qualification to the CL in the next 2-3 seasons? then im sorry but your living in a dream world! martinez given time will have us playing a game that will trouble alot of sides!  he would also need 2-3 seasons to become the manager i know he can be but to think that we are still big enough to say we want CL football within a season is more fansifull than saying you want frankie boyle to do a tour of the best knock knock jokes!!!  we were in turmoil! a shell of a club after the hicks and gillett era! to blame kenny for wasting £120m is an absolute joke! we were heading for relegation under hicks and gillett! they wanted to sell gerrard, torres, pepe, carragher, agger, skertel etc etc to get a bigger return on their investment (investment being a joke, irony)  they didn't care about us, when the champions league money went we were dead weight to them! we now have owners who brought kenny in and he galvanised the team! he brought us to two cup finals and 8th in the league, with the suarez affair and lucas out it seemed like a good season to me, but the owners knew that kenny had taken liverpool as far as he could have and i for one will be eternally greatfull to the guy!  If we can get martinez and give him time he will deliver! but with some of the fans at my club hell bent on knowing every little detail of what goes on behind closed doors, (or the liverpool way, as it used to be called) it makes us a club of contradictions!!!  I know what the response will be to this message and to be honest, i kind of expect it but if every fan just looks at where we have come from in the last 6 years to now, then they will see that it can't be fixed over night! if we want a better brand of football then we have to be patient! we can't spend like chelsea and city, we don't have a title challanging side for the big names to drop straight into like Utd and at the moment spurs and arsenal would beat us to any signing we wanted head to head! and by my reconing that is 5 top top sides for 4 CL places!  so realistically what are peoples expectaions??? wether is 5th or 8th it doesn't make much of a difference and this year we could have finnished 4th with no end result!

i know what your saying but i really hope we dont get martinez mate.
at the moment everything about the club is just a bit uninspiring, signing a perennial relegation battler like martinez isnt going to really change that perception.
look at chelsea, they had a terrible season in the league and finished outside of the top 4, what do they do? they sign hazard from under the noses of city and united and they are being linked with guardiola as manager. they are being heavily linked with falcao and hulk too.
and we are going to counter that by getting the wigan manager in?
i really hope martinez is the real deal but i just know that if united, city, chelsea or arsenal were looking for a new manager he wouldnt be in the running.
i also know that if this was happening at another club, for example if arsenal or chelsea finished 6th, 7th and 8th in consecutive seasons and then signed the wigan manager i`d be thinking to myself they are in managed decline.
appointing someone like klopp sends out the message that we are still in the fight.

garethfeb80 » Mon May 28, 2012 12:51 pm wrote:If anyone on here is deluded enough to think that we will gain qualification to the CL in the next 2-3 seasons? then im sorry but your living in a dream world! martinez given time will have us playing a game that will trouble alot of sides!  he would also need 2-3 seasons to become the manager i know he can be but to think that we are still big enough to say we want CL football within a season is more fansifull than saying you want frankie boyle to do a tour of the best knock knock jokes!!!  we were in turmoil! a shell of a club after the hicks and gillett era! to blame kenny for wasting £120m is an absolute joke! we were heading for relegation under hicks and gillett! they wanted to sell gerrard, torres, pepe, carragher, agger, skertel etc etc to get a bigger return on their investment (investment being a joke, irony)  they didn't care about us, when the champions league money went we were dead weight to them! we now have owners who brought kenny in and he galvanised the team! he brought us to two cup finals and 8th in the league, with the suarez affair and lucas out it seemed like a good season to me, but the owners knew that kenny had taken liverpool as far as he could have and i for one will be eternally greatfull to the guy!  If we can get martinez and give him time he will deliver! but with some of the fans at my club hell bent on knowing every little detail of what goes on behind closed doors, (or the liverpool way, as it used to be called) it makes us a club of contradictions!!!  I know what the response will be to this message and to be honest, i kind of expect it but if every fan just looks at where we have come from in the last 6 years to now, then they will see that it can't be fixed over night! if we want a better brand of football then we have to be patient! we can't spend like chelsea and city, we don't have a title challanging side for the big names to drop straight into like Utd and at the moment spurs and arsenal would beat us to any signing we wanted head to head! and by my reconing that is 5 top top sides for 4 CL places!  so realistically what are peoples expectaions??? wether is 5th or 8th it doesn't make much of a difference and this year we could have finnished 4th with no end result!

Sorry I dont fancy getting beaten at Anfield 3-0 by the like of Man Utd and others, with a relegation battler at the helm.

I wont settle for mediocrity, and hopefully neither will FSG.

Liverpool STILL is one of the biggest clubs in the world with pedigree and a decorated trophy cabinate. We should be targeting managers and players of the same calibre.

The day Liverpool appoint someone like Martinez, Rogers or Lambert etc, is the day I stop following football.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon May 28, 2012 1:21 pm wrote:

garethfeb80 » Mon May 28, 2012 12:51 pm wrote:If anyone on here is deluded enough to think that we will gain qualification to the CL in the next 2-3 seasons? then im sorry but your living in a dream world! martinez given time will have us playing a game that will trouble alot of sides!  he would also need 2-3 seasons to become the manager i know he can be but to think that we are still big enough to say we want CL football within a season is more fansifull than saying you want frankie boyle to do a tour of the best knock knock jokes!!!  we were in turmoil! a shell of a club after the hicks and gillett era! to blame kenny for wasting £120m is an absolute joke! we were heading for relegation under hicks and gillett! they wanted to sell gerrard, torres, pepe, carragher, agger, skertel etc etc to get a bigger return on their investment (investment being a joke, irony)  they didn't care about us, when the champions league money went we were dead weight to them! we now have owners who brought kenny in and he galvanised the team! he brought us to two cup finals and 8th in the league, with the suarez affair and lucas out it seemed like a good season to me, but the owners knew that kenny had taken liverpool as far as he could have and i for one will be eternally greatfull to the guy!  If we can get martinez and give him time he will deliver! but with some of the fans at my club hell bent on knowing every little detail of what goes on behind closed doors, (or the liverpool way, as it used to be called) it makes us a club of contradictions!!!  I know what the response will be to this message and to be honest, i kind of expect it but if every fan just looks at where we have come from in the last 6 years to now, then they will see that it can't be fixed over night! if we want a better brand of football then we have to be patient! we can't spend like chelsea and city, we don't have a title challanging side for the big names to drop straight into like Utd and at the moment spurs and arsenal would beat us to any signing we wanted head to head! and by my reconing that is 5 top top sides for 4 CL places!  so realistically what are peoples expectaions??? wether is 5th or 8th it doesn't make much of a difference and this year we could have finnished 4th with no end result!

i know what your saying but i really hope we dont get martinez mate.
at the moment everything about the club is just a bit uninspiring, signing a perennial relegation battler like martinez isnt going to really change that perception.
look at chelsea, they had a terrible season in the league and finished outside of the top 4, what do they do? they sign hazard from under the noses of city and united and they are being linked with guardiola as manager. they are being heavily linked with falcao and hulk too.
and we are going to counter that by getting the wigan manager in?
i really hope martinez is the real deal but i just know that if united, city, chelsea or arsenal were looking for a new manager he wouldnt be in the running.
i also know that if this was happening at another club, for example if arsenal or chelsea finished 6th, 7th and 8th in consecutive seasons and then signed the wigan manager i`d be thinking to myself they are in managed decline.
appointing someone like klopp sends out the message that we are still in the fight.

Totally agree with this, but hasnt Klopp said he didnt want to move yet?

We are not the attractive proposition that we once where, top players and top managers are not going to want to come to us anymore.  Chelsea can attract players and maybe Pep because they have just won the Champions League, unfortuantelty we have only just won the Carling Cup...

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon May 28, 2012 2:21 pm wrote:

garethfeb80 » Mon May 28, 2012 12:51 pm wrote:If anyone on here is deluded enough to think that we will gain qualification to the CL in the next 2-3 seasons? then im sorry but your living in a dream world! martinez given time will have us playing a game that will trouble alot of sides!  he would also need 2-3 seasons to become the manager i know he can be but to think that we are still big enough to say we want CL football within a season is more fansifull than saying you want frankie boyle to do a tour of the best knock knock jokes!!!  we were in turmoil! a shell of a club after the hicks and gillett era! to blame kenny for wasting £120m is an absolute joke! we were heading for relegation under hicks and gillett! they wanted to sell gerrard, torres, pepe, carragher, agger, skertel etc etc to get a bigger return on their investment (investment being a joke, irony)  they didn't care about us, when the champions league money went we were dead weight to them! we now have owners who brought kenny in and he galvanised the team! he brought us to two cup finals and 8th in the league, with the suarez affair and lucas out it seemed like a good season to me, but the owners knew that kenny had taken liverpool as far as he could have and i for one will be eternally greatfull to the guy!  If we can get martinez and give him time he will deliver! but with some of the fans at my club hell bent on knowing every little detail of what goes on behind closed doors, (or the liverpool way, as it used to be called) it makes us a club of contradictions!!!  I know what the response will be to this message and to be honest, i kind of expect it but if every fan just looks at where we have come from in the last 6 years to now, then they will see that it can't be fixed over night! if we want a better brand of football then we have to be patient! we can't spend like chelsea and city, we don't have a title challanging side for the big names to drop straight into like Utd and at the moment spurs and arsenal would beat us to any signing we wanted head to head! and by my reconing that is 5 top top sides for 4 CL places!  so realistically what are peoples expectaions??? wether is 5th or 8th it doesn't make much of a difference and this year we could have finnished 4th with no end result!

i know what your saying but i really hope we dont get martinez mate.
at the moment everything about the club is just a bit uninspiring, signing a perennial relegation battler like martinez isnt going to really change that perception.
look at chelsea, they had a terrible season in the league and finished outside of the top 4, what do they do? they sign hazard from under the noses of city and united and they are being linked with guardiola as manager. they are being heavily linked with falcao and hulk too.
and we are going to counter that by getting the wigan manager in?
i really hope martinez is the real deal but i just know that if united, city, chelsea or arsenal were looking for a new manager he wouldnt be in the running.
i also know that if this was happening at another club, for example if arsenal or chelsea finished 6th, 7th and 8th in consecutive seasons and then signed the wigan manager i`d be thinking to myself they are in managed decline.
appointing someone like klopp sends out the message that we are still in the fight.

I totally understand where you are coming from mate and everything you have said is true! Klopp would be a signal of intent but martinez has a system of setting in place from top to bottom a club wich plays with the same priciples as liverpool teams gone by.  I know that losing to Utd, city, spurs or even worse a reading of this world is not acceptable and we should be aiming higher than we are at the moment but after the hicks and gillett era that ripped the heart and soul out of this club, we are not coming from any position of strength!  look at spurs, they put redknapp incharge and went from relegation candidates to a team full of stars in 2 seasons! bale was a struggling leftback who couldn't get a game and benitez had an offer from spurs of £6m and he's yours! modric was deemed lightweight for the prem but now is one of the most wanted by a top club!  who had redknapp managed before spurs? he managed west ham, he managed portsmouth etc etc! all teams who have played well enough but never set the league on fire! wenger was an unknown from france who was managing a team in japan? fergie was managing at aberdeen! mohrinio managed a team in portugal who won the CL, a cocky guy who seemed able to talk the talk at a smaller club but could he do it at a big club? all of the above came in and did it!  what im trying to say is i know Man Utd chelsea, man city and arsenal would not go for martinez now but we are not coming from any position of strength!  we are in the "we need to take a chance" on someone saloon and martinez isn't the worst option.  Thats all im say, i can understand where your coming from though and i do agree, but im looking from the point of view that the club has moved on from the dark days, the next step is important and whatever gets decided we should just back the guy and get on with it???

What's with all the Klopp rumors? There's no way we're getting him. Why would he even come to us?

damjan193 » Mon May 28, 2012 2:09 pm wrote:What's with all the Klopp rumors? There's no way we're getting him. Why would he even come to us?

Because his name rhymes with Kop

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/900415-lou ... ders-offer

Louis van Gaal says he's joining Liverpool as Martinez considers offer

Louis van Gaal believes that Liverpool will make an official announcement of his appointment at the club by the end of the week.

However, it is still unclear whether he will be the manager of the Anfield club or a sporting director.

Liverpool currently have two vacancies after Damien Comolli and Kenny Dalglish left the Merseyside club and the owners have been in discussions with a number of candidates for each job.

The Dutchman has told those close to him that he is considering an offer from Fenway Sports Group (FSG), the owners of Liverpool.

Despite being initially approached about the sporting director role, Van Gaal has made it clear he would be happy to succeed King Kenny in the Anfield dugout.

There is still confusion over the situation as outspoken Wigan chairman Dave Whelan has claimed that Latics boss Roberto Martinez has been offered the manager's role at Liverpool.

He met with the owners in Miami earlier this week about the role and it is thought he would not be happy to work under a sporting director.

Swansea's Brendan Rodgers, Jürgen Klopp of Borussia Dortmund and Ajax's Frank de Boer have all turned down the opportunity to discuss a move to Anfield.

So Van Gaal says he is joining but not one quote 

So Van Gaal says he is joining but not one quote 

Thommo's perm » Mon May 28, 2012 2:27 pm wrote:

damjan193 » Mon May 28, 2012 2:09 pm wrote:What's with all the Klopp rumors? There's no way we're getting him. Why would he even come to us?

Because his name rhymes with Kop

lol ..

It's going to be Martinez not Klopp unfortunately

Pig Catcher » Mon May 28, 2012 9:19 am wrote:

Bermenstein » Mon May 28, 2012 7:58 am wrote:Talksport Radio interview on Jurgen Klopp's potential Liverpool future

Not the greatest source (misleading headline?) but does seem to be linked to the rumour my friend provided yesterday. Interesting they say it’s now a two horse race between Klopp and one other. When my friend wakes up and I’ll ask if he has heard anything else.

anything new from your friend mate?

metalhead » Mon May 28, 2012 4:41 pm wrote:It's going to be Martinez not Klopp unfortunately

MH, how sure of this are you?, I mean, there are so many twists and turns with the things that are going right now, it's driving me bonkers. I'm think that there may be a surprise in store (just a feeling).