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RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon May 21, 2012 10:16 pm wrote:Didier Deschamps has cooled talk of him potentially taking the reins at Liverpool.

The former Chelsea midfielder faces an uphill task reviving Marseille's fortunes after they finished 10th in Ligue 1 this season, two years after securing a league and cup double.

Deschamps was first linked with the Anfield hot seat in 2010, following Rafael Benitez's departure and has become a fresh name in the frame to replace the sacked Kenny Dalglish.

But the 43-year-old believes that his future remains at the Stade Velodrome.

He said: "It is expected that I will be there [Marseille] next season.

"When it goes badly, there is need to recharge.

"I will leave on vacation but it is expected that I be there [Marseille] for July 2."
http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/liverpool-fc/1216167-marseilles-didier-deschamps-cools-link-with-liverpool-fc-manager-role.html?



Another top manager  we can chalk off then 

shame as he's one of the better on the list.
are we really that bad as to not one of these lads are jumping at the chance to come here?.
could it be also that fsg approached and offered a deal and he took one look at it and then came out with that statement?.i think it would be strange that managers turn it down straight from the off without knowing the details.

i think a lot of these managers know that until FSG give benitez the chance to finish the job he started at anfield he is going to hang above the head of every new liverpool manager like the proverbial sword of damocles.

Updated:

Roberto Martinez                  2
Andre Villas-Boas 2
Michael Laudrup 5
Brendan Rodgers 6
Rafael Benitez 8
Fabio Capello 16
Frank Rijkaard 16
Louis van Gaal 20
Didier Deschamps 12
Harry Redknapp 25
Brend Schuster 28
Martin ONeill 33
Paul Lambert 28
Jose Mourinho 33
Josep Guardiola 16
Jurgen Klopp 33
Roberto Di Matteo 20
Frank de Boer 33
Jurgen Klinsmann 28
Carlo Ancelotti 40
Guus Hiddink 22
Alan Pardew 40
Marcelo Bielsa 33
Jupp Heynckes 40
Steve Nicol
Unai Emery 40
Bob Bradley
Marcelo Lippi
Joachim Low 50
Bert van Marwijk
Laurent Blanc 50
Jamie Carragher 50
Steve Clarke 50
Alan Curbishley
Manuel Pelligrini
Jorge Jesus
Sami Hyypia
Luis Enrique 50
Paolo Di Canio
David Moyes 50
Claudio Ranieri 50
Martin Jol 50

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue May 22, 2012 12:56 am wrote:i think a lot of these managers know that until FSG give benitez the chance to finish the job he started at anfield he is going to hang above the head of every new liverpool manager like the proverbial sword of damocles.

I would imagine FSG have as much consideration for Benitez as I do.

Kharhaz » Tue May 22, 2012 12:39 am wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue May 22, 2012 12:56 am wrote:i think a lot of these managers know that until FSG give benitez the chance to finish the job he started at anfield he is going to hang above the head of every new liverpool manager like the proverbial sword of damocles.

I would imagine FSG have as much consideration for Benitez as I do.

they`ll go running to him soon, it might be a week, it might be 6 months or it might take a year but they`ll ask him back.
hodgson and dalglish were no mugs, this club takes a lot of turning around and their idea of five year plans with young managers is about as good an idea as going to a baseball stats guru to find out who to appoint as a DoF.
young managers will be way out of their depth here, especially with a restless fanbase.
if fsg are wise they`ll appoint rafa now on their own terms instead of in the future, after the farce of comoli not even lasting a year if their next grand idea of appointing 2 DoF`s and a young manager fails they are going to look seriously incompetent, what will it be then? 5 managers in 3 years? with the fans not amused by kennys departure it`s a real possibility.
if they are smart they`ll appoint benitez now, he`d do better than anyone else anyway.

They wont.

Kenny Kan » Mon May 21, 2012 9:20 pm wrote:Maybe they're turning us down because they think Rafa deserves the chance.

At this rate, he'll be the only one left who'd jump at the chance.

Feck it..Give the job back to KENNY...for a third time.

I think he'd even tell FSG to Phuck off at this rate too

This is my pick: Marcelo Bielsa.

I think we should go all out for him. I'm actually surprised so many are keen to have Rafa back, I don't remember him having that many backers when he departed last time.

fivecups » Tue May 22, 2012 1:53 am wrote:This is my pick: Marcelo Bielsa.

I think we should go all out for him. I'm actually surprised so many are keen to have Rafa back, I don't remember him having that many backers when he departed last time.

Yeah, and he should bring Llorente, Munain and Javi Martinez with him

Strange that Maurice's name hasn't been more closely associated with the job.

red till i die!! » Mon May 21, 2012 9:43 pm wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES » Mon May 21, 2012 10:16 pm wrote:Didier Deschamps has cooled talk of him potentially taking the reins at Liverpool.

The former Chelsea midfielder faces an uphill task reviving Marseille's fortunes after they finished 10th in Ligue 1 this season, two years after securing a league and cup double.

Deschamps was first linked with the Anfield hot seat in 2010, following Rafael Benitez's departure and has become a fresh name in the frame to replace the sacked Kenny Dalglish.

But the 43-year-old believes that his future remains at the Stade Velodrome.

He said: "It is expected that I will be there [Marseille] next season.

"When it goes badly, there is need to recharge.

"I will leave on vacation but it is expected that I be there [Marseille] for July 2."
http://www.clickliverpool.com/sport/liverpool-fc/1216167-marseilles-didier-deschamps-cools-link-with-liverpool-fc-manager-role.html?


Another top manager  we can chalk off then 

shame as he's one of the better on the list.
are we really that bad as to not one of these lads are jumping at the chance to come here?.
could it be also that fsg approached and offered a deal and he took one look at it and then came out with that statement?.i think it would be strange that managers turn it down straight from the off without knowing the details.

Well he is not going to come out and say 'I dont expect to be at Marseille next year' is he, its not as if he has been offered the Liverpool job. I think many of these who are said to be turning us down may change their minds if they are offered the job.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue May 22, 2012 12:57 am wrote:

Kharhaz » Tue May 22, 2012 12:39 am wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue May 22, 2012 12:56 am wrote:i think a lot of these managers know that until FSG give benitez the chance to finish the job he started at anfield he is going to hang above the head of every new liverpool manager like the proverbial sword of damocles.

I would imagine FSG have as much consideration for Benitez as I do.

they`ll go running to him soon, it might be a week, it might be 6 months or it might take a year but they`ll ask him back.
hodgson and dalglish were no mugs, this club takes a lot of turning around and their idea of five year plans with young managers is about as good an idea as going to a baseball stats guru to find out who to appoint as a DoF.
young managers will be way out of their depth here, especially with a restless fanbase.
if fsg are wise they`ll appoint rafa now on their own terms instead of in the future, after the farce of comoli not even lasting a year if their next grand idea of appointing 2 DoF`s and a young manager fails they are going to look seriously incompetent, what will it be then? 5 managers in 3 years? with the fans not amused by kennys departure it`s a real possibility.
if they are smart they`ll appoint benitez now, he`d do better than anyone else anyway.

This is what I remember under Rafa:

Good:

Istanbul - CL
FA CUP
Signing, Alonso, Mascherano, Reina, Torres
We had a better fighting mentality in the first few years


Bad:

Rotation - Random lineups
Bad man management
Needs large investment to start working
Forcing out Alonso and replacing with an Injured Aquilani
A plenthora of failed signings - list is too long
Building hopeless dependency into the team on Gerrard (and Torres when he was good)
He cannot work within a team and demands total control
Towards the end he lost the dressing room and reached an all time low dropping out of the CL

The bad outweighs the good.

I'd give another manager a shot.

who the manger who left valencia after taking them to qualify for champs league?
quite an achievement considering valencia sold all their stars due to financial constraints... sold mata,villa and co.

if it comes down to 3 choices - avb, marinez and rafa. i will choose rafa which is still a dire choice.
but right now seeing most managers rejecting the LFC job, i rather have steve clark take over for half or one season.

if kevin keegan isnt out of the game so long i will give him a shot. he prove himself over the years with attacking football only shortfall is he quit easily too often.

David Moyes

Don't forget Rafa was under ENORMOUS pressure from the bastard-faced owners, thats what cracked him in the end. You can't take the events of that period out of the overall understanding of the affect it had on Rafa, the team, the club and the supporters.

Otherwise his path to success was fairly typical when you look at Maurice at Chelsea or Mancini at Citeh, buy lots of players, some fail/some succeed, build a core team and drive forward. Has Mancini's handling of Tevez been any better, has AVB's relations with the players been any different? The world is full of pima donnas these days etc..

Our biggest grip was rotation ffs... is that all, we were spoiled without realising it!

I'd give me a hard slap across the face - twice in fact to tell him he's not in charge and to focus on 'coaching the team' (haha do you remember all that sh!t?!) and I'm pretty sure 2nd time round he'd understand and accept it having had plenty of time to learn from his mistakes.

I'd take him back under controlled circumstances and  would far prefer him to a Martinez, Swansea, O'Neill style of character. The lad has more kwality in his little toe than Marrinez will ever have.

And whats more, it'll pi$$ Lakes off no end....