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by **SouthCoastShankly** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:27 pm

damjan193 wrote:
SouthCoastShankly wrote:
damjan193 wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:
damjan193 wrote:We're on a focking forum!

What kind of a whiner gets insulted by something meant to be a joke anyway? Have you people never been insulted in your life?

So, I'm in a bar in Macedonia and I see a Macedonian eating Souvlaki and I say "Your mother must have been fu'cked by some Greeks" am I right in thinking that it would be taken as a joke ?

That's a stupid comparison mate. Not worth while but here's the less than 115 pages statement released by me:

1. Maypax stated that we should buy Agbonlahor and Bent which IMO means that if we do that we don't look like racists. Common sense says that that was a joke.
2. Benny says that it's a stupid statement.
3. Maypax calls him a "white kunt", a statement which has a lot of similarities with two cases that happened including football players John Terry in one case and Luis Suarez in the other. People tend to joke on such matters (usually situations which include celebrities). Maypax used this line as a sort of a funny "comeback" to Benny's remarks on Maypax's statement that we should buy Bent and Agbonlahor. That's why I believe that Maypax was trying to make a joke.

Also, I would like to ask, if Maypax only said "kunt" and not "white kunt" would he still be banned?

How the has maxpax's comments saying "white c u n t got any similarities to the Suarez case? I'm looking forward to this one!

As for John Terry, you are aware the FA passed his case to the Crown Prosecution Service, John Terry most likely will be charged with racial abuse. How the hell is that similar here, are you suggesting the Terry case is also blown out of proportion and a joke?

Finally if he only used "c u n t" he would not of been banned, rightly. I'm all for venting frustration even if it is throwing an insult at someone, the moment you bring race into the insult you trivialise racism. Which in my opinion is unacceptable.

FFS man, it has similarities with Suarez's case because an alleged racial abusing is involved. It has even more similarities with Terry's case because he use similar words. When things like this happen people tend to ironically joke on these stuff. Christ, even when famous people die some people joke about it. I'm sure Maypax thought that Benny wouldn't be insulted by such a joke. What kind of a white man gets insulted by being called "white" anyway? I don't know about black people but for me it's just stupid to be insulted if anyone called you white. Being called a kunt though is somewhat insulting. Like I said you people go too far with this racist sh!t and it doesn't make sense anymore. Sorry, but I can't find it logical that being called "white" is more insulting than being called a "kunt".

Are you a retard? Seriously how is making a reference to being black and a reference to being white any different?

A reference to race is a reference to race, they are the same by definition. References to being black tend to attract more controversy because historically it is associated with heinous crimes. Regardless, racially aggregated abuse is pointing out a feature of a person that is in no way related to the insult. Hence why civilised people are offended.

by **woof woof !** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:35 pm

Could be an interesting discussion but to keep it clear heads up on the Russian dolls guys.

by **damjan193** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:36 pm

SouthCoastShankly wrote:Are you a retard? Seriously how is making a reference to being black and a reference to being white any different?

A reference to race is a reference to race, they are the same by definition. References to being black tend to attract more controversy because historically it is associated with heinous crimes. Regardless, racially aggregated abuse is pointing out a feature of a person that is in no way related to the insult. Hence why civilised people are offended.

See, I'm much more offended when I'm called "retarded" then when I'm called "white". Would you seriously be offended if someone called you white?

by **Thommo's perm** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:39 pm

Police have arrested a 20 year old man on suspicion of racially abusing Tom adeyemi of Oldham at Anfield

by **jimmy brighton** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:42 pm

I'm a scouse caucasion who lives in Scotland. I have lived here for 8 years and even though we know about the anti-English thing going on with the Scots, I find I am generally (with only a couple of exceptions) treated as a person and not an 'English' person. The reason I'm saying this is because on those couple of exceptions it has happened I have felt like I'm being villified in a very racial way and it is horrible. It eats you inside out.
There is no place for racism of any kind in todays increasingly multi-cultural society. None whatsoever and all it does is bring that horrible thing called hatred into the mix. The stuff that eats you inside out.
Sometimes I think the world has gone pc mad but I wasn't a member of a race that was frequently treated as animals for many a hundred a year by a race that was my inverse colour.
People need to grow up. They need to realise what they are saying.
You wouldn't call your mum a slag would you?

by **dundreamin** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:43 pm

When was the last time in this country,a black, Asian or any other minority race. Was charged for racially insulting a white person? Go on somebody give me a answer,or AM I being racist

by **damjan193** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:45 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
damjan193 wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:
damjan193 wrote:We're on a focking forum!

What kind of a whiner gets insulted by something meant to be a joke anyway? Have you people never been insulted in your life?

So, I'm in a bar in Macedonia and I see a Macedonian eating Souvlaki and I say "Your mother must have been fu'cked by some Greeks" am I right in thinking that it would be taken as a joke ?

That's a stupid comparison mate. Not worth while but here's the less than 115 pages statement released by me: ..............................................

Also, I would like to ask, if Maypax only said "kunt" and not "white kunt" would he still be banned?

Can't be ar'sed absorbing your less than 115 page statement but I'm perplexed by your assertion that my "Macedonian Bar" scenario is a "stupid comparison". I thought we were talking about insults and how they are received and reacted too, maybe my scenario is something you don't wish to address ?.

As to your question
I would like to ask, if Maypax only said "kunt" and not "white kunt" would he still be banned?

If Maypax had not included a racial reference in his post he would not have been red carded. Maybe like Suarez it's a cultural thing and he's been misunderstood ?

So I guess that's where we disagree. I can't see any logic in someone making a reference about the color of my skin being more offending than some actually calling me a kunt or a b@astard or a retard or whatever.

I say that you have a stupid comparison because you mentioned Greeks :censored:

my mother. I can't even see something that's racially offending here. Your insult isn't a remark that I'm Macedonian, your insult is made towards my mother. That's why Maypax's insult and your scenario aren't comparable.

Anyway, don't bother reading the less than 115 pages statement, it's stupid anyway, I just wanted to make it more clear why I think Maypax was only joking.

by **woof woof !** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:47 pm

jimmy brighton wrote:I'm a scouse corcasion who lives in Scotland. I have lived here for 8 years and even though we know about the anti-English thing going on with the Scots, I find I am generally (with only a couple of exceptions) treated as a person and not an 'English' person. The reason I'm saying this is because on those couple of exceptions it has happened I have felt like I'm being villified in a very racial way and it is horrible. It eats you inside out.
There is no place for racism of any kind in todays increasingly multi-cultural society. None whatsoever and all it does is bring that horrible thing called hatred into the mix. The stuff that eats you inside out.
Sometimes I think the world has gone pc mad but I wasn't a member of a race that was frequently treated as animals for many a hundred a year by a race that was my inverse colour.
People need to grow up. They need to realise what they are saying.
You wouldn't call your mum a slag would you?

Round of applause for this fella

:buttrock

by **red till i die!!** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:51 pm

Thommo's perm wrote:Police have arrested a 20 year old man on suspicion of racially abusing Tom adeyemi of Oldham at Anfield

was he from liverpool thommo?.

by **red till i die!!** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:53 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
jimmy brighton wrote:I'm a scouse corcasion who lives in Scotland. I have lived here for 8 years and even though we know about the anti-English thing going on with the Scots, I find I am generally (with only a couple of exceptions) treated as a person and not an 'English' person. The reason I'm saying this is because on those couple of exceptions it has happened I have felt like I'm being villified in a very racial way and it is horrible. It eats you inside out.
There is no place for racism of any kind in todays increasingly multi-cultural society. None whatsoever and all it does is bring that horrible thing called hatred into the mix. The stuff that eats you inside out.
Sometimes I think the world has gone pc mad but I wasn't a member of a race that was frequently treated as animals for many a hundred a year by a race that was my inverse colour.
People need to grow up. They need to realise what they are saying.
You wouldn't call your mum a slag would you?

Round of applause for this fella

and the last 3 pages

.pure comedy.
we are all in the one race,the human one :buttrock

by **Thommo's perm** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:53 pm

red till i die!! wrote:
Thommo's perm wrote:Police have arrested a 20 year old man on suspicion of racially abusing Tom adeyemi of Oldham at Anfield

was he from liverpool thommo?.

Its on the bottom on SSN and doesnt say?

by **red till i die!!** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 10:56 pm

just looking at that now.
might be a little early for the full story.

by **red till i die!!** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:01 pm

they are saying it was on merseyside

by **roysreds** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:21 pm

Thommo's perm wrote:
red till i die!! wrote:
Thommo's perm wrote:Police have arrested a 20 year old man on suspicion of racially abusing Tom adeyemi of Oldham at Anfield

was he from liverpool thommo?.

Its on the bottom on SSN and doesnt say?

.
there saying the lad is 20 and from Aintree,

I feel ashamed

I remember John Barnes backheeling bananas off the pitch back in the late 80's , can you imagine the kop letting some soft $*i*e get away with that kind of abuse, even back then?

its like by our/kenny's stubborn approach to the suarez situation has given racism the green light at Anfield??

to be fair to the :censored:

up 20y/o, he see's the clubs star striker be found guilty of high profile racism, and what does the club do?
do we wear a 'kick out racism' T-shirt? NO we wear a Suarez Tshirt.

WTF is going on with my club?
.

by **Thommo's perm** » Sat Jan 07, 2012 11:28 pm

red till i die!! wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:
jimmy brighton wrote:I'm a scouse corcasion who lives in Scotland. I have lived here for 8 years and even though we know about the anti-English thing going on with the Scots, I find I am generally (with only a couple of exceptions) treated as a person and not an 'English' person. The reason I'm saying this is because on those couple of exceptions it has happened I have felt like I'm being villified in a very racial way and it is horrible. It eats you inside out.
There is no place for racism of any kind in todays increasingly multi-cultural society. None whatsoever and all it does is bring that horrible thing called hatred into the mix. The stuff that eats you inside out.
Sometimes I think the world has gone pc mad but I wasn't a member of a race that was frequently treated as animals for many a hundred a year by a race that was my inverse colour.
People need to grow up. They need to realise what they are saying.
You wouldn't call your mum a slag would you?

Round of applause for this fella

and the last 3 pages .pure comedy.
we are all in the one race,the human one

Youre absolutely right. Thats where weve all missed the point.
There is no such thing as "Racism". It is an invention and only confirms the divide and difference between cultures and colour.
When black people cry racism they are only confirming that white people are superior because the complaint is as a victim. When white people agree and attack someone for being racist they are encouraging the situation.
I dont know the answer but there should be something different to challenge discrimination on the colour of peoples skin.

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