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AlanHansen wrote:I've been over to Turkey this summer, lovely place, lovely people, if they sort out their human rights situation, there's no reason why they shouldn't be allowed in.

As for the EU - and it may have escaped some of the posters on here - A) we elect people to that parliment to set the laws, it's not just the french and the germans. B) they still have to be ratified by our parliment here so?

"Who said Enoch Powell was wrong??" Immigrants are people the same as you and me and they deserve the same chance to make their way in life. Get over it.   

BarryBelfast wrote:Listen mate !! I aint a racist by no means.

BarryBelfast wrote:

AlanHansen wrote:I've been over to Turkey this summer, lovely place, lovely people, if they sort out their human rights situation, there's no reason why they shouldn't be allowed in.

As for the EU - and it may have escaped some of the posters on here - A) we elect people to that parliment to set the laws, it's not just the french and the germans. B) they still have to be ratified by our parliment here so?

"Who said Enoch Powell was wrong??" Immigrants are people the same as you and me and they deserve the same chance to make their way in life. Get over it.   

Listen mate !! I aint a racist by no means.
But the hard truth is a lot of people in Britain are sick of immigrants coming to our country and bleeding the system dry!Also they come to our country and have no respect for our culture or way of life,not to mention the minority of the minority who want to preach hatred for our way of life on the streets or blow the fu-k out of us!!
I have no problem with any other faith religion or creed!And as far as i'm concerned a person can worship a tree as long as its peaceful and non offencive thats fine!!
But i do have a huge problem with people coming to 'liberal britain' with they're 10 kids and 3 wives under false claims of persecution and claiming thousands of pounds a year on benefits and hospital treatment!!
Britain is a wealthy country cause the majority of the nation work thy're asses off to make it that way!! And i for one dont want to see 20% of my hard earned cash spent on feeding and clothing foreign wasters with the one mindset of sitting on they're back ends and taking all that comes they're way!!If they wanna come to Britain it's simple work for a living like the rest of us or Fu-k off back to where they came from!! Meanwhile in parts of Britain one parent families struggle to make ends meet and thousands are homeless on the street,pensioners die in the winter cause they havent got the cash to heat theyre homes!!
Charity begins at home!!!

LIVERPOOLANYTIME wrote:

BarryBelfast wrote:Listen mate !! I aint a racist by no means.

Nobody said you were Baz, so there is no need to justify yourself with that statement!!!

Or is there??

Woollyback wrote:

LIVERPOOLANYTIME wrote:All I will add to this thread is, people need to understand that if every 'immigrant' (especially the ILLEGAL ones) were to up and leave, the economy would stagnate (research this and you will find it!), as a lot of people in this country dont want to do certain jobs etc etc;
A lot do come and sponge of OUR tax money, (if you read the Daily Mail then you will believe it is all of them FFS!!) but the majority work EXTREMELY hard, even for less money!!! WHY??  Because they have come from nothing and appreciate the chance to work hard for a decent (in their eyes) living!!

I tell you most immigrants work A LOT harder,in worse conditions for LESS money, than the majority of us do. These people work doubly hard, because they have to sustain thmselves in this country (rent,tax,food etc etc;) but they also feel the need to send money home to those less fortunate!

I was in a petrol station a couple of weeks ago, and there was this Asian guy (english wasnt the best, so {wrongly I suppose!} I assumed he was a recent immigrant) at the counter (about 3am this was, on a Friday night or Saturday morning if you like!) and he looked proper tired, so i asked him how long had he been working, he told me, 'I have been here since 10am Thursday'
I was gobsmacked and thought to myself 'No fu.cking way am I gonna work those sort of hours, unless I am getting £100 an hour'.
41 hours straight work, how many of you have done this??  How many would be WILLING to do this?? Dont forget how boring working in a petrol station must actually be, especially in the wee hours of the morning!!  Also I forgot to ask him when he was going to finish, I can only imagine!!!
Some people dont even do 41 hours in a week in a full time job.


So people (IMO) need to realise that there is actually a need for immigrants, as we all benefit as a society as a whole, as much as they benefit from EARNING money in this country!!!

It's particularly true in London where only immigrants will do jobs like macdonalds/cleaning/waitering etc cos the british won't work for such sh!te money. The economy of the service industry would indeed collapse if all immigrants were re-patriated. The issue is actually with scroungers, and it's easy for alarmist rags like the mail/express etc to have us believe that the vast majority of all immigrants are here to scrounge but it simply isn't true. ANY large western economy NEEDS an "underclass" to do the jobs that we don't want to do, in the past it was the working classes but now it is immigrants and without them we wouldn't have such cheap goods & services.

There are certainly plenty of well-publicised cases of so-called health-tourists and benefit-scroungers coming in from eastern europe in particular, and they should be deported IMMEDIATELY, but for every lazy arsed benefit scrounger from abroad there will be at least 10 home-grown white brirish parasites who think the world owes them a living. Genuine, legal immigrants bring so much to this country and benefit our economy so much, it's not immigrants we should be targeting it's lazy f*ckin dole-dewllers who would do well to take a lesson in hard work from the immigrants who've got off their a*rses and come to Britain to better themselves

BarryBelfast wrote:

Woollyback wrote:

LIVERPOOLANYTIME wrote:All I will add to this thread is, people need to understand that if every 'immigrant' (especially the ILLEGAL ones) were to up and leave, the economy would stagnate (research this and you will find it!), as a lot of people in this country dont want to do certain jobs etc etc;
A lot do come and sponge of OUR tax money, (if you read the Daily Mail then you will believe it is all of them FFS!!) but the majority work EXTREMELY hard, even for less money!!! WHY??  Because they have come from nothing and appreciate the chance to work hard for a decent (in their eyes) living!!

I tell you most immigrants work A LOT harder,in worse conditions for LESS money, than the majority of us do. These people work doubly hard, because they have to sustain thmselves in this country (rent,tax,food etc etc;) but they also feel the need to send money home to those less fortunate!

I was in a petrol station a couple of weeks ago, and there was this Asian guy (english wasnt the best, so {wrongly I suppose!} I assumed he was a recent immigrant) at the counter (about 3am this was, on a Friday night or Saturday morning if you like!) and he looked proper tired, so i asked him how long had he been working, he told me, 'I have been here since 10am Thursday'
I was gobsmacked and thought to myself 'No fu.cking way am I gonna work those sort of hours, unless I am getting £100 an hour'.
41 hours straight work, how many of you have done this??  How many would be WILLING to do this?? Dont forget how boring working in a petrol station must actually be, especially in the wee hours of the morning!!  Also I forgot to ask him when he was going to finish, I can only imagine!!!
Some people dont even do 41 hours in a week in a full time job.


So people (IMO) need to realise that there is actually a need for immigrants, as we all benefit as a society as a whole, as much as they benefit from EARNING money in this country!!!

It's particularly true in London where only immigrants will do jobs like macdonalds/cleaning/waitering etc cos the british won't work for such sh!te money. The economy of the service industry would indeed collapse if all immigrants were re-patriated. The issue is actually with scroungers, and it's easy for alarmist rags like the mail/express etc to have us believe that the vast majority of all immigrants are here to scrounge but it simply isn't true. ANY large western economy NEEDS an "underclass" to do the jobs that we don't want to do, in the past it was the working classes but now it is immigrants and without them we wouldn't have such cheap goods & services.

There are certainly plenty of well-publicised cases of so-called health-tourists and benefit-scroungers coming in from eastern europe in particular, and they should be deported IMMEDIATELY, but for every lazy arsed benefit scrounger from abroad there will be at least 10 home-grown white brirish parasites who think the world owes them a living. Genuine, legal immigrants bring so much to this country and benefit our economy so much, it's not immigrants we should be targeting it's lazy f*ckin dole-dewllers who would do well to take a lesson in hard work from the immigrants who've got off their a*rses and come to Britain to better themselves

Thats very well put Wooly and i agree with evey word!! But i would rather get rid of foreign dole scroungers and then deal with our own!!Our own are our problem! They are not!!