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Good 1st half from us and deservedly in the lead. Good finish from Mo and an excellent one from Carvalho. Elliot set up both but the ball over the top for Fabio was top drawer. 

Play wise you can see the intensity when he have the ball and when we don't. Not much at all of the sideways and backwards stuff. We are much quicker getting in behind as a result and creating chances which hopefully will suit Nunez.

Decent game, too bad it was just a friendly haha.

There were no penalties at the end either

damjan193 wrote:Decent game, too bad it was just a friendly haha.

There were no penalties at the end either

Was there no pens  being honest I had matchsticks propping my eyes open for most of the second half so went straight to bed after the final whistle. Maybe they decided against it as it was silly anyway.

2nd half I thought they got more into it and controlled things but we held our composure to see it out. Delighted Slot got that win!!

Not sure I'm a fan of us knocking it around inside our own box so much, I can see that tactic coming back to bite us on the ***** once the season starts. The lads did well though but Arsenal did have an awful lot of the ball which is a concern.

red till i die!! » Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:59 pm wrote:

damjan193 wrote:Decent game, too bad it was just a friendly haha.

There were no penalties at the end either

Was there no pens  being honest I had matchsticks propping my eyes open for most of the second half so went straight to bed after the final whistle. Maybe they decided against it as it was silly anyway.

2nd half I thought they got more into it and controlled things but we held our composure to see it out. Delighted Slot got that win!!

Yeah I stayed a bit to watch the pens out of curiosity lol but there was only post-match interviews and fans started leaving so I went to bed.

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Fri Aug 02, 2024 10:30 am wrote:Not sure I'm a fan of us knocking it around inside our own box so much, I can see that tactic coming back to bite us on the ***** once the season starts. The lads did well though but Arsenal did have an awful lot of the ball which is a concern.

It’s easier done in preseason friendlies where commitment is not as demanded. Once the season starts I hope they get it dialed in because as you say, it could be a problem.

2 up at half time anyway    Carvalho and Jones. Hopefully we add another 1 or 2 before changes are made.

Lol 3.0 in the end. Kostas got the 3rd before the changes. Given the squad Slot had available on the tour he did well by Winning all 3 and 2 are rivals. Great start for him.

I will be surprised if United do well this season.

You can really see Slots’s style of play and how it will us help us and how it may hurt us. Passing the ball around at the back relies on no mistakes but if a mistake is made then opportunities will be gifted. On the other hand it certainly opens the other teams for our forwards to run on to. Certainly will be exciting especially as the players gel into this new style of play. Players that are good on the ball will be everything in this system, we certainly will need a highly skilled DM that can keep the ball and pass it through pressure.

I'm not sure Carvalho, Jones and Tsimakis are going to win the league for us this season.

LFC have been tryin to move Carvalho on for over a year, Jones isn't as good as he seems to think he is (hence his £67,000 a week wages...) and there was a rumour just last month that Tsimakis was out.

The tour's gone well but we still don't have a team to stop City winning the league yet again.

Apparently we turned down a 15mil bid from Southampton for Carvalho. Doesn't meet our valuation so that could change. The lad is a decent player imo but still a year or two away from being good enough. He did well on this tour though but not a lot of them lads will feature this season.

Jones isn't good enough for this level and it's time imo to move him on. Some of the younger lads will surpass him if given the chance.

Elliot isn't good enough either. I know he has done well with a few assists but other areas of his game are seriously lacking. Don't think he will start much because of it so interesting to see how he can impact from the bench.

Still a few transfers up in the air as in we don't know whether we will hold on to Virgil, Trent or Diaz. Might be waiting for Slot to meet up and speak with them to see where there heads are at. As usual though I wish we were more proactive instead of reactive.

red till i die!! » Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:34 pm wrote:Apparently we turned down a 15mil bid from Southampton for Carvalho. Doesn't meet our valuation so that could change. The lad is a decent player imo but still a year or two away from being good enough. He did well on this tour though but not a lot of them lads will feature this season.

Jones isn't good enough for this level and it's time imo to move him on. Some of the younger lads will surpass him if given the chance.

Elliot isn't good enough either. I know he has done well with a few assists but other areas of his game are seriously lacking. Don't think he will start much because of it so interesting to see how he can impact from the bench.

Still a few transfers up in the air as in we don't know whether we will hold on to Virgil, Trent or Diaz. Might be waiting for Slot to meet up and speak with them to see where there heads are at. As usual though I wish we were more proactive instead of reactive.

Hold up !
So Carvalho, Jones and Elliot ( ) aren't good enough ?
Who, in your wisdom do we get in this moment in time to replace them ?

woof woof ! wrote:

red till i die!! » Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:34 pm wrote:Apparently we turned down a 15mil bid from Southampton for Carvalho. Doesn't meet our valuation so that could change. The lad is a decent player imo but still a year or two away from being good enough. He did well on this tour though but not a lot of them lads will feature this season.

Jones isn't good enough for this level and it's time imo to move him on. Some of the younger lads will surpass him if given the chance.

Elliot isn't good enough either. I know he has done well with a few assists but other areas of his game are seriously lacking. Don't think he will start much because of it so interesting to see how he can impact from the bench.

Still a few transfers up in the air as in we don't know whether we will hold on to Virgil, Trent or Diaz. Might be waiting for Slot to meet up and speak with them to see where there heads are at. As usual though I wish we were more proactive instead of reactive.

Hold up !
So Carvalho, Jones and Elliot ( ) aren't good enough ?
Who, in your wisdom do we get in this moment in time to replace them ?

None of them are good enough to be starting games in the league and if they are starting ahead of what we have then we just spunked a fortune away.

Jones is the only one I said I would sell because he's no where near good enough. Replacing Vvd, Trent or Diaz will be a challenge but not Curtis Jones. He's easy to replace from the youth setup.

Missed the game, had a look at the result and got excited but from comments here it seems like there are some worrying issues. I'll try find the game somewhere, if anyone has a link to full game please send.

Six talking points from Liverpool's US tour

Arne Slot is embarking on his first season as Liverpool manager and his pre-season games in the US have bred optimism
Nizaar Kinsella

Liverpool and new manager Arne Slot have completed their pre-season tour of the United States with a 100% win record.
BBC Sport has been at all three of their games, including Saturday night's 3-0 victory over Manchester United.
Here are six talking points from a tour that took the Reds to Pittsburgh and Philadelphia in Pennsylvania and Columbia, South Carolina.
Slot remains an enigma for now
Liverpool's pre-season tour of the US was full of winning football but left little chance to get to know more about Slot away from the field.

The Dutchman is replacing Jurgen Klopp who led the Reds for eight and a half glorious years.
Some clubs use overseas tours to help introduce new coaches to the media but that was not really the case here.
Slot appeared friendly but guarded, opting to watch a Phillies baseball match rather than conduct interviews for example, and took part in just one pre-match news conference while Stateside.
But, from speaking to a host of players around him on this tour, they appear to be enjoying the challenge of learning a new style of play - and three consecutive wins give hope of the potential to challenge for trophies once again this season.
A thumping 3-0 win against United rounded off a pre-season which also saw a 1-0 win over Real Betis and a 2-1 win over Arsenal.
The whole tour, as CEO Billy Hogan revealed in an interview with BBC Sport, was designed by Slot's predecessor Klopp and focused on minimising air miles, ensuring training facilities were world class and avoiding high summer temperatures in the United States wherever they could.
Slot described it as a "very positive" tour, which was less focused on marketing or selling his new club than preparation for winning.
Fans hold up a sign during Liverpool's pre-season game with Manchester

How will Slot use Alexander-Arnold and Bradley?
Since Conor Bradley's emergence midway through last season, there have been questions about what it means for Trent Alexander-Arnold.
Northern Ireland right-back Bradley, 21, excelled in pre-season with Alexander-Arnold, who was at times used in midfield for England at Euro 2024, enjoying a post-tournament break.
Bradley was allowed to overlap and perform as a traditional full-back after starting in all three friendlies.
Will Alexander-Arnold, 25, become Slot's first-choice in that position on his return or be used in a more advanced role?
The situation is further complicated by the need to renew Alexander-Arnold's contract, which expires next summer, amid links to Real Madrid.
No summer signings, yet
Liverpool, who are in the Champions League next season, have made major changes off the pitch by adding not just a new manager but also four directors, without signing a player.
Hogan told BBC Sport Klopp's departure has provided them with a chance to "reboot and reset".
Owners Fenway Sports Group (FSG) have brought back Michael Edwards, who left the club in 2022, in an enhanced oversight role with Julian Ward underneath him.
Sporting director Richard Hughes and technical director Pedro Marques also join a radically overhauled Liverpool recruitment structure.
There is a belief both inside and outside the club that all these figures are exceptional hires, but a lack of transfer activity so far this summer has left some supporters frustrated.
Word inside the club is that they are being careful not to disrupt the fine-tuned group built by Klopp and the calibre of player needed is so high there are only a few options in world football that would improve the squad.
Liverpool did miss out on centre-back Leny Yoro, 18, who they regarded highly, as Manchester United were able to offer a faster pathway to their first team, and interest in Wataru Endo and Luis Diaz could yet force the Reds into the market to replace that duo leave.

Will Slot’s 'elegant' style suit the squad?
When asked by BBC Sport what Slot's answer to Klopp's 'heavy metal football' was, midfielder Harvey Elliott said it was an "elegant", typically Dutch style.
Elliott, Curtis Jones and Jarell Quansah are among those to enjoy the more possession-heavy approach, featuring shorter passes and more interchanging of positions.
They will play out from the back and risk making mistakes but hope that a patient, meticulous build-up approach will ultimately reap rewards.
They will still press but with less intensity and when struggling against Arsenal they sat in effectively to ward off pressure. Could this approach lead to fewer injuries and less fatigue towards the end of the season?

It will be interesting to see whether Liverpool adapt to such a significant change in their previously unique and entertaining style, or whether certain players struggle.
As Liverpool legend John Barnes said on the US tour: "In many respects, it is more about the players adapting to the manager.
"It is probably going to be more difficult for the players than at other clubs with other managers, because Jurgen was here for eight or nine years and has been so instrumental in creating an identity for the football club.
"But the players are up for it and they seem to like it."

Which youngsters are emerging?
A lack of signings is a great boost for an improving academy structure at Liverpool.
Although guarded in his comments, Slot seemed particularly taken by midfielder Trey Nyoni, 17, who excelled in his pre-season outings and earned significant minutes.
Ben Doak, Luca Stephensen, Amara Nallo, Tyler Morton, Lewis Koumas, James McConnell, Harvey Blair and Owen Beck also played some part in the tour.
Czech goalkeeper Vitezslav Jaros, 23, impressed against Manchester United and could be another option.
The likes of Fabio Carvalho and Sepp van den Berg were excellent in significant pre-season roles but could still be sold.
Liverpool's players go through training during their pre-season tour of the US

Will Copa and Euros absence have an impact?
A fresh Mohamed Salah unsurprisingly looks ready to continue his prominent role, despite interest from clubs in Saudi Arabia to secure his signature.
But one area where Slot has admitted some concern is not having the full squad at his disposal while on tour, with several of his experienced core given extra time off after busy summers.
Darwin Nunez, Alexis Mac Allister, Diaz, Alisson Becker, Joe Gomez, Alexander-Arnold, Cody Gakpo and Virgil van Dijk have all yet to meet the manager but will be key to any success.
Nunez could also face punishment for his involvement in an altercation with Colombian fans after Uruguay's Copa America loss.
Meanwhile, contract situations around Van Dijk and Alexander-Arnold will need to be addressed, with Diaz also facing an uncertain future.