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Postby woof woof ! » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:31 pm

mistyred wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:
mistyred wrote:Firstly i'm Black,  when i go to spain they say "Negro" they smile and shake my hand i understand what language barriers are all about.

Sorry can't accept this.

Knowing Misty the way we do I can't believe that when he goes to Spain the word "Negro" isn't prefaced by the words "F*ck Off"

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Woof come on mate i'm trying to make a point  :D

Sorry Mate, just trying to bring a little levity to the forum. Your point is well taken and understood.



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Postby metalhead » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:33 pm

Strong words from Ian Ayre, looks like KD DID tell him to shake hands.

FSG are trying to make amends now
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Postby Greavesie » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:40 pm

metalhead wrote:Liverpool Managing Director Ian Ayre has today released the following statement.





"We are extremely disappointed Luis Suarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday's game. The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so.

"He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand to Patrice Evra. He has not only let himself down, but also Kenny Dalglish, his teammates and the Club. It has been made absolutely clear to Luis Suarez that his behaviour was not acceptable.

"Luis Suarez has now apologised for his actions which was the right thing to do. However, all of us have a duty to behave in a responsible manner and we hope that he now understands what is expected of anyone representing Liverpool Football Club."

Happy we've responded

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Postby metalhead » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:40 pm

Do you really think Ferguson will apologize for his comments? never :laugh:

I'm sorry but I'm very dissapointed in all this
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Postby Greavesie » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:41 pm

metalhead wrote:Do you really think Ferguson will apologize for his comments? never :laugh:

I'm sorry but I'm very dissapointed in all this

in what way MH?
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Postby metalhead » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:47 pm

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metalhead wrote:Do you really think Ferguson will apologize for his comments? never :laugh:

I'm sorry but I'm very dissapointed in all this

in what way MH?

I'm dissapointed in the club, seriously, I understand they want to keep their global image intact but why the hell would they change their stance from the first moment they sent out a fierce statmement condemning the FA, and then our GM who kept quite the whole time comes out now and sends out a statement like that.

Very very dissapointed, if you believe in a cause and believe its your right to fight for it then you stick with it, you don't change your mind to appease people, load of BS
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Postby Johnny Boy » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:52 pm

metalhead wrote:
Greavesie wrote:
metalhead wrote:Do you really think Ferguson will apologize for his comments? never :laugh:

I'm sorry but I'm very dissapointed in all this

in what way MH?

I'm dissapointed in the club, seriously, I understand they want to keep their global image intact but why the hell would they change their stance from the first moment they sent out a fierce statmement condemning the FA, and then our GM who kept quite the whole time comes out now and sends out a statement like that.

Very very dissapointed, if you believe in a cause and believe its your right to fight for it then you stick with it, you don't change your mind to appease people, load of BS

Did the club not need to do 'something' though?

How will we attract new star players with all this still hanging over us and I for one dread every game with all the booing and chants going on - that has to affect the players.
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Postby burjennio » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:53 pm

I dont think they are u-turning on their initial stance for backing Suarez over the racism accusations, more that they are disappointed that he led the staff to believe he was going to go through with the handshake then went back on his word.


Lets be clear, he has APOLOGIZED, its time to move on from this whole f*cking debacle and we can get back to playing and discussing football.
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Postby Dundalk » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:54 pm

Hats off to the club for coming out with those statements. It's a start and will help rebuild things a little
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Postby Greavesie » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:55 pm

metalhead wrote:
Greavesie wrote:
metalhead wrote:Do you really think Ferguson will apologize for his comments? never :laugh:

I'm sorry but I'm very dissapointed in all this

in what way MH?

I'm dissapointed in the club, seriously, I understand they want to keep their global image intact but why the hell would they change their stance from the first moment they sent out a fierce statmement condemning the FA, and then our GM who kept quite the whole time comes out now and sends out a statement like that.

Very very dissapointed, if you believe in a cause and believe its your right to fight for it then you stick with it, you don't change your mind to appease people, load of BS

yeh, thats the hard part, its that balance and thats where I've really struggled. It's got me down big time, stand for what you believe and fight the masses or back down even knowing what you stood for was right in your mind. I understand your view entirely but I just think we're not helping ourselves with such a stance anymore, as much as I'd love to show otherwise. We're not talking about football, that Uruguayan lad has took centre stage and Kenny is letting him run the show.

It's fooking horrible and it pains me to say it but we need to back down  :( racism in this country is the big thing of the noughties, we condemn everything, I'm not a fan of the PC world at all and it gets on my t!ts but in this instance it's beaten us. Racism is the biggest moral crime in this country (even more so than kicking someone in the head apparently) and anyone seen doing anything that can be remotely construed as racist will attract the PC bandwagon riding w@nkers. We had a politican over here accidentally say blackbusters when he meant blockbusters. That was tagged as a racist gaff - which is quite frankly ridiculous
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Postby metalhead » Sun Feb 12, 2012 3:56 pm

Johnny Boy wrote:
metalhead wrote:
Greavesie wrote:
metalhead wrote:Do you really think Ferguson will apologize for his comments? never :laugh:

I'm sorry but I'm very dissapointed in all this

in what way MH?

I'm dissapointed in the club, seriously, I understand they want to keep their global image intact but why the hell would they change their stance from the first moment they sent out a fierce statmement condemning the FA, and then our GM who kept quite the whole time comes out now and sends out a statement like that.

Very very dissapointed, if you believe in a cause and believe its your right to fight for it then you stick with it, you don't change your mind to appease people, load of BS

Did the club not need to do 'something' though?

How will we attract new star players with all this still hanging over us and I for one dread every game with all the booing and chants going on - that has to affect the players.

They should have appealed after this!!

Liverpool Football Club is very surprised and disappointed with the decision of the Football Association Commission to find Luis Suarez guilty of the charges against him.


We look forward to the publication of the Commission's Judgment.  We will study the detailed reasons of the Commission once they become available, but reserve our right to appeal or take any other course of action we feel appropriate with regards to this situation.

We find it extraordinary that Luis can be found guilty on the word of Patrice Evra alone when no-one else on the field of play - including Evra's own Manchester United teammates and all the match officials - heard the alleged conversation between the two players in a crowded Kop goalmouth while a corner kick was about to be taken.

The Club takes extremely seriously the fight against all forms of discrimination and has a long and successful track record in work relating to anti-racist activity and social inclusion.  We remain committed to this ideal and equality for all, irrespective of a person's background.

LFC considers racism in any form to be unacceptable - without compromise.  It is our strong held belief, having gone over the facts of the case, that Luis Suarez did not commit any racist act.  It is also our opinion that the accusation by this particular player was not credible - certainly no more credible than his prior unfounded accusations.

It is key to note that Patrice Evra himself in his written statement in this case said 'I don't think that Luis Suarez is racist'.  The FA in their opening remarks accepted that Luis Suarez was not racist.

Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black.  He has been personally involved since the 2010 World Cup in a charitable project which uses sport to encourage solidarity amongst people of different backgrounds with the central theme that the colour of a person's skin does not matter; they can all play together as a team.

He has played with black players and mixed with their families whilst with the Uruguay national side and was Captain at Ajax Amsterdam of a team with a proud multi-cultural profile, many of whom became good friends.

It seems incredible to us that a player of mixed heritage should be accused and found guilty in the way he has based on the evidence presented. We do not recognise the way in which Luis Suarez has been characterised.

It appears to us that the FA were determined to bring charges against Luis Suarez, even before interviewing him at the beginning of November. Nothing we have heard in the course of the hearing has changed our view that Luis Suarez is innocent of the charges brought against him and we will provide Luis with whatever support he now needs to clear his name.

We would also like to know when the FA intend to charge Patrice Evra with making abusive remarks to an opponent after he admitted himself in his evidence to insulting Luis Suarez in Spanish in the most objectionable of terms.  Luis, to his credit, actually told the FA he had not heard the insult.
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Postby redtrader74 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:07 pm

I Think his apology says it all, 'I got things wrong' ' I made a mistake' I honestly think that he felt that the kunt was pulling away and thought I'm not being embarrassed here. The pictures are clear the kunt had his hand out for everyone else, and was a lot lower for Luis. In this pathetic day and age once the race card is pulled you cant win. Like mistyred said the real racism of the 70s and 80s was never dealt with, the stuff with Luis is nothing, and I'm gutted for him.

The stupid W*nk stains that have been criticizing him on these boards need to think for a minute, how would you feel if you had been charged, found guilty and then vilified for something you did not do?
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Postby RedSi35 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:19 pm

Greavesie wrote:
metalhead wrote:Liverpool Managing Director Ian Ayre has today released the following statement.





"We are extremely disappointed Luis Suarez did not shake hands with Patrice Evra before yesterday's game. The player had told us beforehand that he would, but then chose not to do so.

"He was wrong to mislead us and wrong not to offer his hand to Patrice Evra. He has not only let himself down, but also Kenny Dalglish, his teammates and the Club. It has been made absolutely clear to Luis Suarez that his behaviour was not acceptable.

"Luis Suarez has now apologised for his actions which was the right thing to do. However, all of us have a duty to behave in a responsible manner and we hope that he now understands what is expected of anyone representing Liverpool Football Club."

Happy we've responded

over to you Patrice....

Spot on.

He has apologised, LFC have apologised, exactly what everyone wanted.

As you say, now over to Evra. Is he man enough to accept the apologies and move on?  I would not be shocked if he came out with some more :censored:.


Lets hope this now puts a lid on it, and we dont sack kenny and luis as some numpty suggested.
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Postby parchpea » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:28 pm

Suarez has apologised to the manager, club and his team mates and not to Evra. He will never apologise to Evra and Evra will not be offering anyting in return either.

The handshake was a gesture for the greater good, for Liverpool FC and all that goes with being an employee of the football club.

Unfortunately, despite agreeing to shake the hand with his employers he chose not to see it through, heaping yet more misery and grief upon everyone connected with the football club.

He has clearly had a bollocking and on the back of that has offered this apology, but where this mistrust leaves him long term would have to be the question at this point.
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Postby worcester_red » Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:30 pm

redtrader74 wrote:I Think his apology says it all, 'I got things wrong' ' I made a mistake' I honestly think that he felt that the kunt was pulling away and thought I'm not being embarrassed here. The pictures are clear the kunt had his hand out for everyone else, and was a lot lower for Luis. In this pathetic day and age once the race card is pulled you cant win. Like mistyred said the real racism of the 70s and 80s was never dealt with, the stuff with Luis is nothing, and I'm gutted for him.

The stupid W*nk stains that have been criticizing him on these boards need to think for a minute, how would you feel if you had been charged, found guilty and then vilified for something you did not do?

If I was Suarez and was genuinely innocent I would have sued the FA, anyway he has apologised now so that is a good first step. Clearly the club is in damage limitation mode and are taking positive action which is good to see.
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