Liverpool FC Forum

[Big Niall]

Personally I think it would be good to make it compulsary to have 3 home grown players in every team. If EU rules will accept that it doesn't descriminate against other EU countries (doubtful-but there may be a work around, e.g. must be at club a certain lenght of time).

I accept the standard may drop, we won't always have a Gerrard or Carragher to fill two of the places but I think it would be good to keep the identity of the team.

Even though I am not a scouser I feel that a Liverpool native is a bigger fan than an outsider (don't want that debate though) and I don't feel good about English teams with no Englishmen, Italian teams without Italians etc, it takes away from the national ethos of certain clubs in Europe.

What do you think?

[LFC #1]

I agree with it and what you have said. Although I am not against foreign players at all, you need to have some local talent in the team otherwise it loses its identity somewhat.

[Cool Hand Luke]

I may be wrong, but in France I think they introduced a rule were a certain amount of players have to be under 22 and eligible to play for the national side, and look what happened there.

I personally think that the Worthington Cup should be altered so that maybe 5 of the 16 have to be 22 or under and eligible to play for the England side. I think if a rule were to be introduced in the league it may devalue it and reduce the overall quality, the Worthington Cup is full of youngsters anyway and not many teams take it seriously so I couldn’t imagine any huge resistance from clubs.

[LiverpoolFan00]

I think it would be a good idea to have a rule that three homegrown players in the team. Homegrown players always seem to try that bit harder and have a bit more passion which is good for the game.

[MilitiaRusher]

In my opinion, the 3 home grown players quota set by UEFA is perhaps a bit too lenient and easily achievable, with the exception of Arsenal's largely foreign squad. But first of all, does this rule apply to the whole squad or just the first team (starting 11 and 5-7 subs) on the match day? Even if it the rule only applies for the first team on match days, Liverpool can easily achieve that (Carragher, Gerrard, Carson).

Presumably, Rafa has an intention to sign SWP despite his hefty cost is partly because he is British so that Rafa can satisfy the condition, I suppose. And why Crouch anyways? I guess Rafa simply wants a bigger core of local players in our team.

[el_stinger]

It was a farce that Arsenal won the FA cup without a single englishman on the pitch

[Big Niall]

I'd prefer 3 on the pitch at all times. Note Englishmen don't count, I mean SWP wouldn't be homegrown.

The EU law is the main thing, football is not outside the law so it would be hard to make it sound as if it doesn't discriminate against foreigners.

[taff]

I may be wrong, but in France I think they introduced a rule were a certain amount of players have to be under 22 and eligible to play for the national side, and look what happened there.

I personally think that the Worthington Cup should be altered so that maybe 5 of the 16 have to be 22 or under and eligible to play for the England side. I think if a rule were to be introduced in the league it may devalue it and reduce the overall quality, the Worthington Cup is full of youngsters anyway and not many teams take it seriously so I couldn’t imagine any huge resistance from clubs.

I think thats the most sensible compromise and could work

The problem I see is what is local, is it the thirty miles thing so teams liek Liverpool could destroy smaller teams in the Northwest and in London there would be a free for all with even worse corruption and parents getting tapped than there is now

But the local talent issue does need to be addresed and Cool Hands way seems the most workable

[joependo]

I may be wrong, but in France I think they introduced a rule were a certain amount of players have to be under 22 and eligible to play for the national side, and look what happened there.

I personally think that the Worthington Cup should be altered so that maybe 5 of the 16 have to be 22 or under and eligible to play for the England side. I think if a rule were to be introduced in the league it may devalue it and reduce the overall quality, the Worthington Cup is full of youngsters anyway and not many teams take it seriously so I couldn’t imagine any huge resistance from clubs

Yeah lads cool hands luke way is the best and most reasonable.When i watch frenchh footy i have never heard an English name or a name of other countries.But if you did just have english players in our team it would lose rep because you need a spanish to play in your team so then spanish people would watch him which means you would get more money off selling merchandises   $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

[yckatbjywtbiastkamb]

It was a farce that Arsenal won the FA cup without a single englishman on the pitch

so did we in 86.
all this homegrown lark is designed to help the national team.
player development is not an exact science, and whilst we might be alright now who`s to say our homegrown players wont become a serious liability to the club in the future? look at united, during the 90`s all we heard was about their great youth system and how united can churn top class players out but that soon dried up. in the 80`s all the best players seemed to come from the north east like paul gasgoigne , peter beardsley and chris waddle. now a lot of good players seem to come from the city of liverpool.
its hard enough trying to get a good team together by transfers never mind bringing fate into it.
i`d just leave it as it is, if local lads are good enough they play for us on merit........jimmy case, tommy smith, robbie fowler, stevie gerrard etc.

[Adebisi]

In Scotland (I think) they have or had a rule that there must be x3 Scottish aged under 21 in the match squad, although think this was more to benefit the national team more than anything, but I liked the sound of this rule

But I definetly think that there should be minimum 3 English players in first team squad, to think 12 years ago there was only 10 foriegn players in the whole league (outside UK & Eire) its quite funny that it has came to this!

[Lando_Griffin]

Homegrown, or Scousers? Or do you mean players that have come through the academy, and not necessarily english?

[ivor_the_injun]

Not all teams have an academy, so that wouldn't work.

It'd have to be a rule related to the number of Englishmen - bringing specific regions into it would be seriously impractical simply because major cities are far more densely populated, meaning there'd be a larger base pool of football-playing lads to try and bring through.

For me I think having a minimum of 3 in the squad on match day would be the way to go, increased to 5 after 5 years. However, to reinforce it I'd say that points penalties (as fines just wouldn't bother many teams) be given to clubs that fail to field English players in more than 25% of their league fixtures, with a player having to be on the pitch for a minimum of 45 minutes to constitute an appearance. If teams were particularly injury hit, the loan system could be amended slightly to allow for this.

[neilE]

I cant see that it would help much. For us having a spanish manager has given us a much better chance of signing top spanish players - that benefit would be watered down. And as far as the England team goes, we've currently got the best squad we've had for years - maybe because only the very best English players can compete in our league.

[yckatbjywtbiastkamb]

I cant see that it would help much. For us having a spanish manager has given us a much better chance of signing top spanish players - that benefit would be watered down. And as far as the England team goes, we've currently got the best squad we've had for years - maybe because only the very best English players can compete in our league.

good point mate