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[Judge]

yes they are a part of football but as i said earlier there isnt much variation and imagination you can work on when it comes to a throw in . Mainly they are used to keep possession , a quick one to release a forward or thrown into the box for some sort of knock down . what else can you do with them ? they arent like free kicks and corners where you can work on routines .Hence why i aksed what Variations you can do apart from the norm and not really getting any sort of definate answer ?!?

do you remember Challinor?

amazing throw

[GYBS]

yes they are a part of football but as i said earlier there isnt much variation and imagination you can work on when it comes to a throw in . Mainly they are used to keep possession , a quick one to release a forward or thrown into the box for some sort of knock down . what else can you do with them ? they arent like free kicks and corners where you can work on routines .Hence why i aksed what Variations you can do apart from the norm and not really getting any sort of definate answer ?!?

do you remember Challinor?

amazing throw

Yes mate for Tranmere and all he did was lob it straight into the box from everywhere on the field just like delap does - is that imaginative ? We dont have someone like that so unable to add that sort of thing to our throw ins .

[Judge]

its an amazing talent, and would be useful in any teams arsenal (not the footy club)

[GYBS]

but challinor himself wasnt a very good footballer he could just throw the ball long - same with delap isnt that good can just throw the ball long - yes if you have someone in your team who could do it but not be his only and main assest it would be good to give you something or a variation but we dont and im pretty sure no one on here wants us to go out a buy a long throw specialist for the team when we play our best football when it is on the floor.

[heimdall]

but challinor himself wasnt a very good footballer he could just throw the ball long - same with delap isnt that good can just throw the ball long - yes if you have someone in your team who could do it but not be his only and main assest it would be good to give you something or a variation but we dont and im pretty sure no one on here wants us to go out a buy a long throw specialist for the team when we play our best football when it is on the floor.

GYBS Can I ask you a question do you ever change your opinion or is it a case of once set it's set.
I'm sure you're a nice bloke but my god you are so annoying to discuss anything with because you are just like a broken record and keep going along the same exact line with zero deviation. Even when people make bloody good points (not necessarily me), you conveniently ignore them or just pick out the part of the post which you can criticise.  Can you please try to understand how irritating that is. For example on this thread I mentioned the variations earlier which I would like to see done but you just looked at it black and white, "Oh so you want us to be like Stoke then", when if you had got off your soapbox for a bit and gone, hmm maybe he's got a point and perhaps thought of some variation in throw ins yourself you might just might see what me and Sir Roger are getting at.

[GYBS]

Jesus i will ask again and hopefully you will answer without any digs at me - What Variations is there that we can do bar the ones that we already do - i have thought about it and i can think of none .
Instead of glossing over what is asked just answer it . What are these variations that we can do apart from the ones we normaly do anyway .And i never said "oh we should be like stoke then " i explained what stoke do and how it wouldnt work with our strikers and players we have got . The chances i will get a straight answer are pretty slim i expect so if you cant answer it straight then dont bother replying .

[Judge]

Jesus cant make it to the forum right now, but, use a throw in like a corner, pop it into the box and the probability that someone scores is increased

[GYBS]

We do that on the odd occasion when fabio or arbs try to throw it in there but they have no distance to make it very effective and normally it ends up going to the near post for someone to try flicking it on . We dont have a long throw specialist of someone who can throw it into the box from all over the place .

[GRAHAM01]

Jesus i will ask again and hopefully you will answer without any digs at me - What Variations is there that we can do bar the ones that we already do - i have thought about it and i can think of none .
Instead of glossing over what is asked just answer it . What are these variations that we can do apart from the ones we normaly do anyway .And i never said "oh we should be like stoke then " i explained what stoke do and how it wouldnt work with our strikers and players we have got . The chances i will get a straight answer are pretty slim i expect so if you cant answer it straight then dont bother replying .

there are a few things that could be tried i have thought of, bit hard to explain them but i will try ( i will not say the norm ones ) here is one that could be tried

1) as a player goes to make the throw in the player he is going to throw to makes the run forward, the player with him would then follow so long as there is not another player directly behind the pair ( a shout could be made by a team mate to let the first player know ) the receiver spins from the man and runs away from the thrower who throws the ball over both players heads and are player runs on to the ball and hay hay he is away with the ball

will try to get some more down when i have some time

[GYBS]

So the player runs towards the taker then spins away when close to make himself some space ? Is that right ?

Think see what you mean - so the player is trying to get himself a bit more space to receive the throw ? Or enable himself to run onto the ball ?

[Owzat]

Surely you must have some stat on this subject owzat ?

nah, I'm handing in my notice and throwing in the towel on this one.

How to get worked up over a poxy throw-in by Sir Roger and his merry menagerie. As I said x posts ago, we lose possession via hoofed clearances, poor corners and free-kicks and just pissing passing the ball away so why get worked up over a throw-in. If the player is facing the thrower or away from goal then it's likely to be lost or go backwards, the best throw ins are when players run onto them. But Rafa is supposedly tactical genius #1 so it's up to him to decide how crucial it is and sort it.

Personally I'd rather the players worked on quick, sharp passing and the required control that means we don't lose possession that way, whilst meaning we're more likely to break open a defence

Actually here's a stat on it, 100% of Owzat has no interest in stats on throw-ins

[GYBS]

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[heimdall]

Jesus i will ask again and hopefully you will answer without any digs at me - What Variations is there that we can do bar the ones that we already do - i have thought about it and i can think of none .
Instead of glossing over what is asked just answer it . What are these variations that we can do apart from the ones we normaly do anyway .And i never said "oh we should be like stoke then " i explained what stoke do and how it wouldnt work with our strikers and players we have got . The chances i will get a straight answer are pretty slim i expect so if you cant answer it straight then dont bother replying .

there are a few things that could be tried i have thought of, bit hard to explain them but i will try ( i will not say the norm ones ) here is one that could be tried

1) as a player goes to make the throw in the player he is going to throw to makes the run forward, the player with him would then follow so long as there is not another player directly behind the pair ( a shout could be made by a team mate to let the first player know ) the receiver spins from the man and runs away from the thrower who throws the ball over both players heads and are player runs on to the ball and hay hay he is away with the ball

will try to get some more down when i have some time

What he said and other variations on a theme. All I am saying is that there are surely some imaginative ways of doing a throw in which could give us an edge. Look at the equivalent to throw ins in rugby, lineouts. There is a hell of a lot more variation involved there and although it is of course a bit different the principle remains. If you can bamboozle the opposition a few times then they get nervous and the more nervous a defence is the more chance you have of scoring. Is that adequate for you GYBS or do I need to start drawing tactical diagrams and the like. In my head I can think of a fair few variations which might work but it's kind of hard to describe and I really don't have the time or inclination when they'll probably just be shot down in flames anyway.

[GYBS]

Well it makes a change to actually ask the question instead of spending a number of posts avoiding it and having digs at me . And can you really compare line outs in rugby to football throw ins ?

You can vary the movement of players when they are receiving the ball and trying to create space for themselves but thats more down to the match itself as opposed to routines that are worked on in training and all comes down to where the throw in is on the pitch - in your own half etc what the state of the game is etc and how the team are facing you when you take a throw in .

Variations your talking about all involve the movement of players and them trying to create space forthemselves - well doesnt that already happen ?

Bamboozling the opponent surely comes more from players skill and movement as opposed to a set throw in routine ?

[Judge]

movement in the box upon a throw would require the same skill in bamboozling the oppo