The smiths - Best band ever

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Postby dawson99 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:46 am

Friday morning at nine o'clock she is far away
Waiting to keep the appointment she made
Meeting a man from the motor trade

so...shes buying a car? yeah, great song!
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Postby Woollyback » Mon Dec 04, 2006 10:48 am

beatles: we all live on a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine

smiths: as anthony said to cleopatra, as he opened a crate of ale, some girls are bigger than others, some girls mothers are bigger than oter girls mothers


i rest my case
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:02 am

the smiths  'heaven knows i'm miserable now' and lets not forget 'hang the dj'

oh yes now i can see where you guys are coming from, i dont know what i was thinking when i said lennon and mcCartney are better.

oh yes i do, i was thinking what utter bollox    :D
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Postby account deleted by request » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:06 am

If you are talking about Lyrics and not groups,there is only one ......... Bob Dylan

Up on the white veranda
She wears a necktie and a Panama hat.
Her passport shows a face
From another time and place
She looks nothin' like that.
And all the remnants of her recent past
Are scattered in the wild wind.
She walks across the marble floor
Where a voice from the gambling room is callin' her to come on in.
She smiles, walks the other way
As the last ship sails and the moon fades away
From Black Diamond Bay.

As the mornin' light breaks open, the Greek comes down
And he asks for a rope and a pen that will write.
"Pardon, monsieur," the desk clerk says,
Carefully removes his fez,
"Am I hearin' you right?"
And as the yellow fog is liftin'
The Greek is quickly headin' for the second floor.
She passes him on the spiral staircase
Thinkin' he's the Soviet Ambassador,
She starts to speak, but he walks away
As the storm clouds rise and the palm branches sway
On Black Diamond Bay.

A soldier sits beneath the fan
Doin' business with a tiny man who sells him a ring.
Lightning strikes, the lights blow out.
The desk clerk wakes and begins to shout,
"Can you see anything?"
Then the Greek appears on the second floor
In his bare feet with a rope around his neck,
While a loser in the gambling room lights up a candle,
Says, "Open up another deck."
But the dealer says, "Attendez-vous, s'il vous plait,''
As the rain beats down and the cranes fly away
From Black Diamond Bay.

The desk clerk heard the woman laugh
As he looked around the aftermath and the soldier got tough.
He tried to grab the woman's hand,
Said, "Here's a ring, it cost a grand."
She said, "That ain't enough."
Then she ran upstairs to pack her bags
While a horse-drawn taxi waited at the curb.
She passed the door that the Greek had locked,
Where a handwritten sign read, "Do Not Disturb."
She knocked upon it anyway
As the sun went down and the music did play
On Black Diamond Bay.

"I've got to talk to someone quick!"
But the Greek said, "Go away," and he kicked the chair to the floor.
He hung there from the chandelier.
She cried, "Help, there's danger near
Please open up the door!"
Then the volcano erupted
And the lava flowed down from the mountain high above.
The soldier and the tiny man were crouched in the corner
Thinking of forbidden love.
But the desk clerk said, "It happens every day,"
As the stars fell down and the fields burned away
On Black Diamond Bay.

As the island slowly sank
The loser finally broke the bank in the gambling room.
The dealer said, "It's too late now.
You can take your money, but I don't know how
You'll spend it in the tomb."
The tiny man bit the soldier's ear
As the floor caved in and the boiler in the basement blew,
While she's out on the balcony, where a stranger tells her,
"My darling, je vous aime beaucoup."
She sheds a tear and then begins to pray
As the fire burns on and the smoke drifts away
From Black Diamond Bay.

I was sittin' home alone one night in L.A.,
Watchin' old Cronkite on the seven o'clock news.
It seems there was an earthquake that
Left nothin' but a Panama hat
And a pair of old Greek shoes.
Didn't seem like much was happenin',
So I turned it off and went to grab another beer.
Seems like every time you turn around
There's another hard-luck story that you're gonna hear
And there's really nothin' anyone can say
And I never did plan to go anyway
To Black Diamond Bay.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:08 am

i had the pleasure of seeing bob dylan live in manchester about 10 years ago. great show
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Postby account deleted by request » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:11 am

peewee wrote:i had the pleasure of seeing bob dylan live in manchester about 10 years ago. great show

Jammy b@stard, I have never seen him live  :(
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Postby 67-1161385641 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:16 am

peewee wrote:
CharmlessMan wrote:The Smiths are a very good band, the Morrissey and Marr song writing partnership was excellent one of the best musical partnership's I've ever come across and that's above Lennon and McCartney.

:laugh:   surely you are having a bubble there mate. but if thats your opinion who am i to argue?? 



but dont open the door tonight, it may be the men in white coats coming for you      :D

No I'm being very serious, Marr and Morrissey's musical partnership was better than Lennon's and McCartney's. That's not to say that The Smiths are a better band then The Beatles, but partnership wise, Morrissey and Marr are one of the best. I always felt that Lennon and McCartney were some what inconsistent in their writing and composing where as Morrissey and Marr were extremely consistent. I like both The Beatles and The Smiths, I'm a lot closer to The Beatles music, because of the connection I have, but there is no denying the quality of The Smiths and it's worth mentioning that The Beatles were heavily successful based on commercialism, The Smith and Morrissey's solo career has had little commercialism within and this speaks volumes for them as a band, to get as successful as them without the aid of advertisements.

I don't know why anyone would try to compare The Smiths and The Beatles; they have a completely different sound. The Beatles were a great band, one of the best, but then so were The Smiths. To me The Smiths didn't have one bad album, they were unique, and like The Beatles and both bands are influences to many.
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Postby 112-1077774096 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:19 am

CharmlessMan wrote:
peewee wrote:
CharmlessMan wrote:The Smiths are a very good band, the Morrissey and Marr song writing partnership was excellent one of the best musical partnership's I've ever come across and that's above Lennon and McCartney.

:laugh:   surely you are having a bubble there mate. but if thats your opinion who am i to argue?? 



but dont open the door tonight, it may be the men in white coats coming for you      :D

No I'm being very serious, Marr and Morrissey's musical partnership was better than Lennon's and McCartney's. That's not to say that The Smiths are a better band then The Beatles, but partnership wise, Morrissey and Marr are one of the best. I always felt that Lennon and McCartney were some what inconsistent in their writing and composing where as Morrissey and Marr were extremely consistent. I like both The Beatles and The Smiths, I'm a lot closer to The Beatles music, because of the connection I have, but there is no denying the quality of The Smiths and it's worth mentioning that The Beatles were heavily successful based on commercialism, The Smith and Morrissey's solo career has had little commercialism within and this speaks volumes for them as a band, to get as successful as them without the aid of advertisements.

I don't know why anyone would try to compare The Smiths and The Beatles; they have a completely different sound. The Beatles were a great band, one of the best, but then so were The Smiths. To me The Smiths didn't have one bad album, they were unique, and like The Beatles and both bands are influences to many.

fair enough mate
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Postby 67-1161385641 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 11:20 am

Woollyback wrote:beatles: we all live on a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine, a yellow submarine

smiths: as anthony said to cleopatra, as he opened a crate of ale, some girls are bigger than others, some girls mothers are bigger than oter girls mothers


i rest my case

Everyone is picking out The Smiths and The Beatles "lesser songs". Yellow Submarine is a song that has always and always will put a smile across my face, just like Octopus' Garden. The Beatles' Revolver and Sgt Pepper are in my top ten album list, Strangeways, Here We come and Meat is Murder are another two albums in my top ten list. Both bands had good songs and some bad songs.

If you want to compare bands, compare The Smiths and The Stone Roses or The Beatles and Rolling Stones.  :D
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Postby woof woof ! » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:25 pm

CharmlessMan wrote:I don't know why anyone would try to compare The Smiths and The Beatles; they have a completely different sound.

:laugh:  hold up, surely it was you that started the comparison ?

The Smiths are a very good band, the Morrissey and Marr song writing partnership was excellent one of the best musical partnership's I've ever come across and that's above Lennon and McCartney.
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Postby Smeg » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:04 pm

peewee wrote:the smiths  'heaven knows i'm miserable now' and lets not forget 'hang the dj'

oh yes now i can see where you guys are coming from, i dont know what i was thinking when i said lennon and mcCartney are better.

oh yes i do, i was thinking what utter bollox    :D

Its called Panic, not hang the dj.


This may sound shocking but, apart from your obvious tracks; she loves you, i wanna hold your hand, i aint heard the Beatles.
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Postby 67-1161385641 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:10 pm

woof woof ! wrote:
CharmlessMan wrote:I don't know why anyone would try to compare The Smiths and The Beatles; they have a completely different sound.

:laugh:  hold up, surely it was you that started the comparison ?

The Smiths are a very good band, the Morrissey and Marr song writing partnership was excellent one of the best musical partnership's I've ever come across and that's above Lennon and McCartney.

No, I compared Lennon and McCartney and Morrissey and Marr as songwriters, not The bands. There is the difference, if I was comparing the band, I would of mentioned Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce to George Harrison and Ringo Starr.
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Postby 67-1161385641 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:12 pm

Smeg wrote:
peewee wrote:the smiths  'heaven knows i'm miserable now' and lets not forget 'hang the dj'

oh yes now i can see where you guys are coming from, i dont know what i was thinking when i said lennon and mcCartney are better.

oh yes i do, i was thinking what utter bollox    :D

Its called Panic, not hang the dj.


This may sound shocking but, apart from your obvious tracks; she loves you, i wanna hold your hand, i aint heard the Beatles.

That's down to your own ignorance, nothing else.
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Postby woof woof ! » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:30 pm

CharmlessMan wrote:
woof woof ! wrote:
CharmlessMan wrote:I don't know why anyone would try to compare The Smiths and The Beatles; they have a completely different sound.

:laugh:  hold up, surely it was you that started the comparison ?

The Smiths are a very good band, the Morrissey and Marr song writing partnership was excellent one of the best musical partnership's I've ever come across and that's above Lennon and McCartney.

No, I compared Lennon and McCartney and Morrissey and Marr as songwriters, not The bands. There is the difference, if I was comparing the band, I would of mentioned Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce to George Harrison and Ringo Starr.

Wriggle wriggle   :laugh:

I included your reference to the respective writing partnerships in the quote .

I assumed that when anybody mentioned the "Beatles" they automatically thought Lennon/McCartney with the same formula (Morrisey/Marr) applying to the Smiths .

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Postby 67-1161385641 » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:35 pm

I'm not splitting hairs, when anyone mentions The Beatles those who know their music and have learnt to appreciate all members of the group and that goes for any band.  Two members don’t make a band.
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