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[Dundalk]

Another police officer has just been shot in Craigavon, in Northen Ireland. This after what happened at the weekend is a disgrace and these clowns that are doing it should be locked up for life.
All we need is for all this to kick off again just when things have been going well.

Im so pi$$ed off

[fivecups]

This is crazy - nobody wants a return to those dark days - it must be clamped down on immediately. Wait for the retaliation now - it's going to come unless this can be stopped NOW.

[Effes]

Ive not listened to the news much, but do you think there might be pressure on Michael McGuinnes and/or Gerry Adams to
give some "inside info" to the powers that be?

Or do you think they aren't "players" in the new conflict? And therefore, wont be in the know anyway?

[Big Niall]

I always believed that life isn't black and white and could argue for the IRA killing soldiers/police (but never ever a civilian) in the 1920s to 1960s when  the  british army killed innocents and when descrimination was rife. I event try to see al quedas, eta, farc ,pointsof view as much as i can.

however, i don't know how much attention the news in the uk has given to the ''real IRA'' killing people. in the last few days Every person i know thinks it absolutely despicable, scum of the earth type behaviour.

Ireland, north or south has always had a huge liverpool support due to emigration (we send the slow folk to manchester) so I'm posting my views here.not really sure what my point is other than that I'm ashamed of the people who wrap my flag around them - nobody supports them except maybe 20 blokes in a garage somewhere.

I'm sure you all have some scumbag, drug dealing psychos in your neighbourhood.

My favourite sporting moment of all time is Ireland playing england in rugby at croke park in 2007 because it was the stadium where english police shot randomly into the crowd wathcing GAA (irish sport) in the 1920s and the irish people in 2007 paying 100% respect to god save the queen was very beautiful.

Not sure about my overall point other than I hope it doesn't go back to the bad old days.

[Effes]

Mate, similar thread started by Dundalk a few mins ago. Maybe check in there?

[Big Niall]

Merged thread.

[Big Niall]

Ive not listened to the news much, but do you think there might be pressure on Michael McGuinnes and/or Gerry Adams to
give some "inside info" to the powers that be?

Or do you think they aren't "players" in the new conflict? And therefore, wont be in the know anyway?

I don't believe they know anything. i believe that they believe that the current imperfect solution is the best.

[Dundalk]

nobody supports them except maybe 20 blokes in a garage somewhere.

Could agree more with you on this one, a serious minority want to get this going again and the rest have to suffer. My only fear is that this is not going to be the end of these shootings, obviously the decision was made to begin this attack on Police Officers and unfortunately I can see it continuing.

The only hope is to catch and stop the people who are doing this before retaliation kicks in otherwise we could easily slip back into the old days of looking over your shoulder and fear

[Big Niall]

i remember the july 7 bombings and hoping that it wasn't some Irish group,it makes no difference to the dead people but it was a relief to find it was muslims, and yes I now that statement might be offensive to some.

However, ever irish person you meet will say how despicable the murders are, muslim don't do the same.

Imagine some liverpudliann paedo  claiming that he was representing you - not trying to be funny.

I ( and dundalk I assume) really feel sh!t.

[Dundalk]

Yeah I really do and I can understand people getting angry but im in the same boat and Im as annoyed about this as anyone.

When I was a kid growing up the sight of Army men patrolling little country roads was a common thing and there was certain areas that you would not visit or even think about going. Recently its opened up a lot and the same places i was once not allowed by my parents to visit are now places that i go no problem and enjoy. I have a lot of friends from both side of the border and to think that we might be slipping back into this isnt even worth contemplating

[Dundalk]

Mods can you change the tile of this to Shooting in Northern Ireland or something

Although I do think that the people responsible are F*ucking W*ankers i don't think its the best title for a topic, i was just very pi$$ed of at the time

[Big Niall]

it is funny (in a really unfunny way), I remember being in england a couple of years ago and complaining that there were f8ck all bins around the tube line. then he told me why.

I will wave the green flag, speak some Irish, hope Ireland win the grandslam in rugby but really feel a punch to the nuts that most folk here won't understand.

to folk here that have disagreed with every post i ever wrote - nearly all Irish folk feel so sh!t about this.

I really hate patriotism as it can be twisted so easily, any country than think of its own examples.

[7_Kewell]

I’ve been to Belfast and I have lots of friends over there too. It is a great place and my friends are both Catholic and Protestant. I personally don’t think it will EVER go back to the bad old days, simply because the people in Northern Ireland don’t want it. The folk over there have got use to normality and don’t ever want a return to seeing the army on the streets and constant bomb scares.

It’s sad that a minority don’t want peace and I only assume it’s down to the fact they can’t get use to the fact that the war is over. What do they do now? Go and work for a factory? I bet this has more to do with ego than anything else and there are 20-40 people over there that simply won’t let go of the power they had as members of a paramilitary group.

I expect to see the NI Police and Garda come down hard on these scumbags, because they don’t represent anyone but themselves.

[Number 9]

I’ve been to Belfast and I have lots of friends over there too. It is a great place and my friends are both Catholic and Protestant. I personally don’t think it will EVER go back to the bad old days, simply because the people in Northern Ireland don’t want it. The folk over there have got use to normality and don’t ever want a return to seeing the army on the streets and constant bomb scares.

It’s sad that a minority don’t want peace and I only assume it’s down to the fact they can’t get use to the fact that the war is over. What do they do now? Go and work for a factory? I bet this has more to do with ego than anything else and there are 20-40 people over there that simply won’t let go of the power they had as members of a paramilitary group.

I expect to see the NI Police and Garda come down hard on these scumbags, because they don’t represent anyone but themselves.

Its not the police its the government that need to get tough!
These 2splinter groups" have been infiltrated to their very core,everyone knows who they are.Theres a guy from Craigavon still walking the streets that everyone and their dog knows murdered 2 police officers near the end of the troubles,he more than likely was involved last night if he did'nt actually pull the trigger.Its the same old story though,lack of forensic evidence and all that.

Sorry fu,ck forensic evidence..send the SAS in and murder the kunts in cold blood lying in their beds.Total cowards deserve it,shooting two unarmed soldiers and shooting a police man from the shadows,shooting 2 guys delivering pizza as they are seen as collaborators in their eyes cause they dared to deliver to an army barracks!Pathetic narrow minded fools.

Its a scary time though because its very possible there will be retaliation from the loyalist side and some innocent catholic taxi driver or workman may be the fall guy.But thats what the nationalist terrorists want,i doubt though that the trigger happy gunman has the intelligence to see that sadly!

RIP Sapper Mark Quinsey,Sapper Patrick Azimar and Constable Stephen Carroll!
I hope they are the last,sadly I doubt it!

[7_Kewell]

they've arrested 2 today...lets hope more follow, because there will be NO early release for these and 25 years will MEAN 25 years