Racist attack in liverpool? - Its 2005, i thought we had moved on ffs!

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Postby woof woof ! » Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:39 pm

Deepest sympathy to the family and friends of Anthony Walker . But lets not forget that you don't have to be black to be attacked in Liverpool or any other city or town in this country .For some sections of our society alcohol and violence seems to be part of a good day/night out . The b'stards that murdered this poor lad have probably given a good kicking to many innocent passers by and got away with it .Why is it that the law only gets serious when the crime escalates from GBH to Murder ? . Bring back hanging for murder and stiffer sentences for GBH (5 year min) for the thugs that roam our streets.
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Postby A.B. » Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:32 pm

RIP Anthony Walker. :(
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Postby 66-1120597113 » Mon Aug 01, 2005 4:55 pm

What a waste,poor guy had a lot ahead of him!
How anyone can even punch someone else for the colour of they're skin is disgusting,but to attack with an axe just make me feel sick thinking about it!Jail is to good for who did this,they dont deserve to live another second!
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Postby woof woof ! » Mon Aug 01, 2005 6:34 pm

Further example of the "society" we live in .

I read this in today's daily mirror .
A hoodie wearing thug sits on the top deck of a London bus and starts throwing chips at other passengers , most of them say nothing and avoid confrontation by moving downstairs . One 28 year old  fella fed up with his girlfriend being subjected to a hail of chips finally stands up and asks the guy (in a reasonable tone) to pack it in . He was then stabbed to death .

The attacker described as "in his 20's 6ft tall with afro style hair " escaped unhindered.
What a Fu*king country we live in .Law abiding citizens would rather creep away and not get involved instead of uniting and sorting out the scum in our society.

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Postby IstanBuL-FenerBaHce » Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:17 pm

R.I.P. Anthony :(

One more victim to racism!!!  :angry:

Have concerns whether racism will be cleared one day..
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Postby 76-1115222408 » Mon Aug 01, 2005 7:25 pm

woof woof ! wrote:Further example of the "society" we live in .

I read this in today's daily mirror .
A hoodie wearing thug sits on the top deck of a London bus and starts throwing chips at other passengers , most of them say nothing and avoid confrontation by moving downstairs . One 28 year old  fella fed up with his girlfriend being subjected to a hail of chips finally stands up and asks the guy (in a reasonable tone) to pack it in . He was then stabbed to death .

The attacker described as "in his 20's 6ft tall with afro style hair " escaped unhindered.
What a Fu*king country we live in .Law abiding citizens would rather creep away and not get involved instead of uniting and sorting out the scum in our society.

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If he was wearing a 'hoodie' then how could they see 'afro' style hair??

B.*ll*c*ks to the papers, the 'hoodie' part, is used to set a certain way of thinking in the readers mind!!!
My mum wears a hood regularly, both up and down, so I suppose she should be banned from 'Bluewater' too??
The fact the guy was wearing a 'hoodie' has no bearing on this whatsoever. The fact he killed an innocent man (for no apparent reason) is what needs to be focused on, not his HOOD FFS!!!

This is the new thing in the papers now, people with 'hoodies' are criminals!!!   Total stupidness, I am sure I saw Cherie Blair wearing a hood a matter of days after T.Blair praised the 'hoodie' schemes now in place in many places such as 'Bluewater'.

Wonder if she is banned from Bluewater too!!!   ??? :laugh:
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Postby andy_g » Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:15 pm

you seem to have an amazing capacity to miss the point, mate. the hood is mentioned incidentally and its never stated if its up or down.

the point being made is that people prefer to shy away from regulating their own environment. really f.ucking tragic.
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Postby 76-1115222408 » Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:24 pm

No I see the point, believe me, but it is just the way the papers report things too!!
The 'hoodie' is becoming linked with crime and soon there will be calls to ban hoods completly, but will crime stop - of course not!!!!

But I see the 'main' point of the post, just chose to pick up on something else. Is that a problem??

If it is new to you that people are selfish and not ready to get 'involved' then maybe you need to wake up and smell the coffee 'mate'!!!  That is the society we live in today, selfish and self centered. Please dont believe that people in London are not afraid about the terrorist attacks, it just comes down to the fact that people are selfish, and as long as it doesnt affect them, then they are not too bothered.

Sad, but thats the way it is today!!!!! :;):
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Postby andy_g » Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:30 pm

LIVERPOOLANYTIME wrote:If it is new to you that people are selfish and not ready to get 'involved' then maybe you need to wake up and smell the coffee 'mate'!!!  That is the society we live in today, selfish and self centered. Please dont believe that people in London are not afraid about the terrorist attacks, it just comes down to the fact that people are selfish, and as long as it doesnt affect them, then they are not too bothered.

i so hope you're not trying to patronise me there
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Postby 76-1115222408 » Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:32 pm

the hood is mentioned incidentally and its never stated if its up or down.


EXACTLY my point ......duh!!!!

If it is incidental, what is the point of it?  It is not as if they used this in the description of the attacker did they??

As I said, it is a means of setting a certain ideaology in the mind of the reader. The hood is totally irrelevant to the case, but it is the HOOD that is mentioned within the first couple of words of the first sentence!!!

HOWEVER, this may not have been a direct qoute from the paper, and therefore if it is not.......the person posting this CHOSE to use this in their first sentence of describing the incident!!!

Either way, the propaganda seems to work on some people!!!
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Postby yckatbjywtbiastkamb » Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:32 pm

LIVERPOOLANYTIME wrote:No I see the point, believe me, but it is just the way the papers report things too!!
The 'hoodie' is becoming linked with crime and soon there will be calls to ban hoods completly, but will crime stop - of course not!!!!

But I see the 'main' point of the post, just chose to pick up on something else. Is that a problem??

If it is new to you that people are selfish and not ready to get 'involved' then maybe you need to wake up and smell the coffee 'mate'!!!  That is the society we live in today, selfish and self centered. Please dont believe that people in London are not afraid about the terrorist attacks, it just comes down to the fact that people are selfish, and as long as it doesnt affect them, then they are not too bothered.

Sad, but thats the way it is today!!!!! :;):

or maybe its down to a few years ago if you got involved in trying to stop a fight or a robbery or something you risked getting a belt at the most, these days your more likely to get shot or stabbed.
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Postby 76-1115222408 » Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:37 pm

yckatbjywtbiastkamb wrote:or maybe its down to a few years ago if you got involved in trying to stop a fight or a robbery or something you risked getting a belt at the most, these days your more likely to get shot or stabbed.

True, true.........either way, its the way things are today in society......of course it is wrong, but how many of YOU would be the 'Samaritan', as you say ycat, with the prospect of being stabbed or shot for doing so?? 
Again, it comes back to being selfish - because people are thinking of THEIR OWN lives and I am sure there is also a mentality of  'Well, would THEY help me, IF, I was in the same situation, I dont think so' therefore they dont get involved!
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Postby 76-1115222408 » Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:39 pm

andy_g wrote:
LIVERPOOLANYTIME wrote:If it is new to you that people are selfish and not ready to get 'involved' then maybe you need to wake up and smell the coffee 'mate'!!!  That is the society we live in today, selfish and self centered. Please dont believe that people in London are not afraid about the terrorist attacks, it just comes down to the fact that people are selfish, and as long as it doesnt affect them, then they are not too bothered.

i so hope you're not trying to patronise me there

Get over yourself mate, you are NOT that important.

Patronise you......  :laugh: .

Take it how you see it 'mate' !!!!
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Postby andy_g » Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:54 pm

mr liverpoolanytime. i really really don't want to get into a tiresome drawn out argument with you - but it would be really nice if at times you could drop the superior tone you tend to adopt with many people in your discussions. i don't doubt you have strength in your convictions but its always a good idea to question yourself as often as you question others. i think you may discover that you don't know half as much as you'd like too - when i realised that abouot myelf i grew up a hell of a lot quicker.
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Postby 66-1120597113 » Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:13 pm

andy_g wrote:mr liverpoolanytime. i really really don't want to get into a tiresome drawn out argument with you - but it would be really nice if at times you could drop the superior tone you tend to adopt with many people in your discussions. i don't doubt you have strength in your convictions but its always a good idea to question yourself as often as you question others. i think you may discover that you don't know half as much as you'd like too - when i realised that abouot myelf i grew up a hell of a lot quicker.

Well said!! :rasp
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