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[IstanBuL-FenerBaHce]

to IstanBuL-FenerBaHce:
you cant just take the situation in Turkey and compare it to Israel. From what I know the kurdish don't attack you in order to get you completely away from this area, and if they do then it's exactly like the situation between Israel and palastines.

Nope mate you are wrong. They want 1/4 of our lands. They want more than 10 cities on the southeast. They want to get us away from our own area..But we know there are innocent people on this lands and fight only with terrorists.

Israel DOES NOT aim their bombs on civilians, but like in every war- it happens.

   

[REVOL]

But my turkish friend(Love istanbul btw)the british Mandate ruled Israel-Palestine for almost 50 years.the jewish people have recieved the balfour statement that acknowledges that Israel is the homeland of the jews and there will be a jewish stae in Israel when the mandate will end...

they did it as a way of gratitute for the Jewish help during WWI.

Later on,The arabs started rioting,Killing jews and British,and the british goverment canceld this decsion...rewarding the killers....

Learn some history and stop presenting idiotic theories as facts...

[REVOL]

oh..by the way...don't you miss Haim Revivo?...

[IstanBuL-FenerBaHce]

I read these in the school years ago mate(and also in books etc.) .

I was talking for todays events. The Israelese pressure in USA government and Americas's love for oil and money makes everything easier for Israel.

They are currently the biggest power in the world, they can stop Israel whenever they want - but they dont. Because Israel is the biggest partner for America in the middleeast. Israel government want blood, USA government want money.

Thats why they close their eyes.

[IstanBuL-FenerBaHce]

oh..by the way...don't you miss Haim Revivo?...

We loved him so much, until he went to 6alatasaray

He was a very talented player.

But Fenerians now hate him. As same as Figo event in Spain between Barca and Real Madrid.

[REVOL]

True...America's intrests in the Middle east are great..and the jews have a strong lobby in the American political system.but if the Americans want oil it's has nothing to do with us..we don't have any..that's why they deal with saudi arabia and help them with weapons...that's why they are in Iraq now...

there are no american militery bases in Israel(Unlike turkey),and the only american intrest in Israel is cause they are taking care that no harm ill be done to us...

true..we are best friends...Like The egyptians were with the russians and The hizballah is with Iran.

Beside,if our army is so strong and we have the american support and we want blood..why can't we kill the entire Palestinian pepole?occupy Leabnon?..we don't want blood,mate...we seek for peace....

we seek for normality..like Israel and turkey have...when we came to help you in the last major earthquake and visit your country....and you sell us water...it could be the same with our neighbours...we want that...look what happend to egypt and Jordan after the peace agreements with us...they have blossomed....we want that too with our other neighbours....we want peace.....

just peace...

[jeffiroquai]

true..we are best friends...Like The egyptians were with the russians and The hizballah is with Iran.

Best friends my !!!!!!!!!!  Pretty onesided friendship if you ask me.  We send you money and weapons, and you send us bills and more headaches.

Like a spoiled child.

Why the hell is Israel in UEFA anyway?

[woof woof !]

the next image is very bad. only over 18's


israel says they are gonna fuck lebanon, israeli defense minister seen below reckons so

Isn't that the new Spurs badge ? good to see they kept the c'ock theme going .         

[IstanBuL-FenerBaHce]

I understand you completely mate, but if u continue their attacks with this way, you will find more pain in your own land.

Kill the terrorists, nobody will say you anything..But with every f*cking day millions of people see one more burned-demolished city and more dead civilians.

Thats not the right way to cope with terror.

[supersub]

..we seek for peace....


just peace...

I want to throw up


peace by occupation ...never works
peace by genocide ......never works
peace by bombing lebanon and murdering innocents will never work
murdering UN staff is not an attempt at peace


I am sick to death of the same old sh.te

[REVOL]

True.It's a onesided friendship...you get nothing in return..that's my point....i wish we could maintain  without a regular financial aid from the usa but it's not going to happen in the near future...but many countries get a financial aid from the USA and you don't seem to care,Icluding the palestinian goverment at the time...(which they used to buy weapons instead of taking care of themselves...).

My dear friend,Leabnon and the leabnense people isn't Israel's enemy...But when the hizballah fires and hides in civilian areas,there is the possibilty that civilians will get hurt...The IDF is doing it's best not to harm civilans and in many cases we do not respond with fire when there is a chance that we might hurt civilians...but you cant be sure about it....unlike the hizballah or the hamas who attack civilians on purpose..

and the sights you see on TV is a nighbourhood called The Dakhiya,it's loacted in southern Beirut and it holds many hizballah fecilities...you don't get to see us firing on the christian areas or the druz viliges...we have nothing against them,and thay lebanense...

BTW,fot ages the syrians rulled leabnon,occuping it,and no one said a word within the arab world..now syrians-Iranians divisions rules southern leabnon,and no says a word...why is that?

why can't the  Lebanese army move infront of the international borderline?...

give us back our soliders,stop shooting on us for no reason and let the real army of leabnon to rule the borderline...and then i wish that the beautiful country of leabnon will be  blossoming again...

it is our great intrest that there will be peace in this region...we want to host football matches....

[REVOL]

genocide???do you even know what your'e talking about?....we could have finished off the entire palestinian people in 3 days and still we try to make peace with them...we mark our targts as clear as possible:no civilians...but we can't do much when terrorists uses theyre own people as human shields...and we are sorry for every civilan who gets hurt...they have mothers and fathers too...they are humanbeings just like us....

occuping?...okay..we are willing to give the west bank back to jordanians...we have occupied it from them...will they take it?....

wev'e left the Gaza strip and still they fire everyday on our cities and kiddnapping our soliders...

wev'e left lebanon and they still attack us...

we respond to the death of our civilans by bombing empty buildings....

face it,you just want us out of here,no matter what we will do...Like in 1948,you want us swimming in the ocean...well i'm sorry we have won and the arab plan didn't work out...

well that's not gonna happen,Mate...no more....we are  here to stay...if you want to,you can live in Peace with us and you will gain a lot...but if you will choose war,we will strike back...as any other nation would have done.

[REVOL]

And as a former solider in the IDF who served in the west bank i can tell you that...we hate being there...we don't to be there...we feel sorry for the people who live there and his leadrs are feeding him with lies instead of food...that buy guns instead of building schools and hospitals...that won't let leave the refugee camps so they could continue with theyr'e demands for money and keep the situation as it is...

we want them to live in peace and in freedom...i want my grandson to able to play with his arab friends without fear....i want to visit in arab cities,such as arabs visits my town everyday,and using Israeli hospitals and many other services....

we all want peace,but not a peace that will get us killed the minute we'll turn our backs....

[Cool Hand Luke]

Do you feel your government has let you down? They haven’t created a situation were Israelis can live in a safe environment?

[Cool Hand Luke]

israel's govermen and army both declared that the war will stop when the 2 kiddnaped soldiers would be returned, is it such a big demand?

The fact is every Israeli prime minister has exchanged prisoners before with Hezbollah, even Sharon.

Not for one minute do I believe that this bombarding of Lebanon is due to 2 uniformed Israeli soldiers being captured on the Israel/Lebanon border.