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Postby laza » Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:05 am

Oh no its not a leap year well in that case Judge  :)


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Postby Judge » Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:12 am

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Postby Smeg » Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:21 am

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Postby Judge » Fri Jul 14, 2006 11:48 am

Smeg wrote:bastards

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Postby Big Niall » Fri Jul 14, 2006 1:08 pm

Both sides are just as bad as each other (as in most conficts) it does pi$$ me off though that America is afraid to say boo to Isreal as the jewish lobby group in America is so strong. While the yanks turn a blind eye to everything Israel do, there is no hope there.

I always said that I thought it was a mistake to form the state in the first place as it is in the middle of muslim part of the world. Jews needed their own state after WW2 but I'd have given them a chunk of Germany.

I believe - correct me if I am wrong, that there has only been jewish migration to Israel in significant numbers for a little over a hundred years.
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Postby Sabre » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:02 pm

Yeh, in most conflicts both sides are almost as bad.

But when IRA assasinated, the UK combatted the terrorists, they didn't destroy Dublin airport and bombed Irish cities to combat it. Spain didn't bomb the Basque cities neither.

The Hezbollah guys are terrorists, but Lebanon population  are not. And Israel is attacking airports (from where no attacks ever came), blocking sea ports, destroying infrastructures and roads, and killing children. That's an act of war, not combating terrorists.
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Postby Ciggy » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:07 pm

:(  Broke my heart yesterday seeing them kids dead on the news getting lifted in old bits of carpet they where like little dolls its so sad,  :down:
Unfortunalty these scenes make the terrorists worst and it all goes around in a vicious circle.
Its dreadful.
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Postby adamnbarrett » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:14 pm

Sabre wrote:Yeh, in most conflicts both sides are almost as bad.

But when IRA assasinated, the UK combatted the terrorists, they didn't destroy Dublin airport and bombed Irish cities to combat it. Spain didn't bomb the Basque cities neither.

The Hezbollah guys are terrorists, but Lebanon population  are not. And Israel is attacking airports (from where no attacks ever came), blocking sea ports, destroying infrastructures and roads, and killing children. That's an act of war, not combating terrorists.

100% agree there Sabre. Have you ever considered working in politics?  :D
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Postby Judge » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:16 pm

adamnbarrett wrote:
Sabre wrote:Yeh, in most conflicts both sides are almost as bad.

But when IRA assasinated, the UK combatted the terrorists, they didn't destroy Dublin airport and bombed Irish cities to combat it. Spain didn't bomb the Basque cities neither.

The Hezbollah guys are terrorists, but Lebanon population  are not. And Israel is attacking airports (from where no attacks ever came), blocking sea ports, destroying infrastructures and roads, and killing children. That's an act of war, not combating terrorists.

100% agree there Sabre. Have you ever considered working in polotics?  :D

what is polotics :D
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Postby adamnbarrett » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:25 pm

Judge wrote:
adamnbarrett wrote:
Sabre wrote:Yeh, in most conflicts both sides are almost as bad.

But when IRA assasinated, the UK combatted the terrorists, they didn't destroy Dublin airport and bombed Irish cities to combat it. Spain didn't bomb the Basque cities neither.

The Hezbollah guys are terrorists, but Lebanon population  are not. And Israel is attacking airports (from where no attacks ever came), blocking sea ports, destroying infrastructures and roads, and killing children. That's an act of war, not combating terrorists.

100% agree there Sabre. Have you ever considered working in polotics?  :D

what is polotics :D

:angry:  :angry:  :angry:

it's meant to be politics

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Postby Big Niall » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:33 pm

Sabre wrote:Yeh, in most conflicts both sides are almost as bad.

But when IRA assasinated, the UK combatted the terrorists, they didn't destroy Dublin airport and bombed Irish cities to combat it. Spain didn't bomb the Basque cities neither.

The Hezbollah guys are terrorists, but Lebanon population  are not. And Israel is attacking airports (from where no attacks ever came), blocking sea ports, destroying infrastructures and roads, and killing children. That's an act of war, not combating terrorists.

The IRA killed many innocent protestants and innocent members of the public in Britain itself too and the protestants had their own "terrorists" who killed many innocent catholics. The British government are widely believed to have helped the protestant terrorists kill innocent catholics and the British army shot dead unarmed catholics on the street (bloody sunday).

The Irish government were not that great either and engaged in gun running in the late 1960s.

This isn't the site to go into it all but all sides in the war in Northern Ireland did horrible things to innocent people. I cannot think of a single war when it was good versus evil - that is for the cartoons & movies.
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Postby dawson99 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:38 pm

Big Niall wrote:
Sabre wrote:Yeh, in most conflicts both sides are almost as bad.

But when IRA assasinated, the UK combatted the terrorists, they didn't destroy Dublin airport and bombed Irish cities to combat it. Spain didn't bomb the Basque cities neither.

The Hezbollah guys are terrorists, but Lebanon population  are not. And Israel is attacking airports (from where no attacks ever came), blocking sea ports, destroying infrastructures and roads, and killing children. That's an act of war, not combating terrorists.

The IRA killed many innocent protestants and innocent members of the public in Britain itself too and the protestants had their own "terrorists" who killed many innocent catholics. The British government are widely believed to have helped the protestant terrorists kill innocent catholics and the British army shot dead unarmed catholics on the street (bloody sunday).

The Irish government were not that great either and engaged in gun running in the late 1960s.

This isn't the site to go into it all but all sides in the war in Northern Ireland did horrible things to innocent people. I cannot think of a single war when it was good versus evil - that is for the cartoons & movies.

world war 2?

the germans must be considered the baddies there mate
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Postby ConnO'var » Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:49 pm

Sabre wrote:Yeh, in most conflicts both sides are almost as bad.

But when IRA assasinated, the UK combatted the terrorists, they didn't destroy Dublin airport and bombed Irish cities to combat it. Spain didn't bomb the Basque cities neither.

The Hezbollah guys are terrorists, but Lebanon population  are not. And Israel is attacking airports (from where no attacks ever came), blocking sea ports, destroying infrastructures and roads, and killing children. That's an act of war, not combating terrorists.

Well said.

When will we learn?
Lessons of the past don't seem to be smart-ing us up do they?

This is not bout justice. This is an eye for a head and a tooth for a life.

Retaliation to the extreme regardless the cost. Extreme example of flexing nationalistic muscle and the ends justifying the means.

Sad, sad day....  :down:
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Postby Judge » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:01 pm

dawson99 wrote:
Big Niall wrote:
Sabre wrote:Yeh, in most conflicts both sides are almost as bad.

But when IRA assasinated, the UK combatted the terrorists, they didn't destroy Dublin airport and bombed Irish cities to combat it. Spain didn't bomb the Basque cities neither.

The Hezbollah guys are terrorists, but Lebanon population  are not. And Israel is attacking airports (from where no attacks ever came), blocking sea ports, destroying infrastructures and roads, and killing children. That's an act of war, not combating terrorists.

The IRA killed many innocent protestants and innocent members of the public in Britain itself too and the protestants had their own "terrorists" who killed many innocent catholics. The British government are widely believed to have helped the protestant terrorists kill innocent catholics and the British army shot dead unarmed catholics on the street (bloody sunday).

The Irish government were not that great either and engaged in gun running in the late 1960s.

This isn't the site to go into it all but all sides in the war in Northern Ireland did horrible things to innocent people. I cannot think of a single war when it was good versus evil - that is for the cartoons & movies.

world war 2?

the germans must be considered the baddies there mate

aye dawson, and it was the JEWISH population who suffered there.

plenty of innocents murdered there

the list goes on

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as far as bombing airports and transportation function, that is vital in stopping hezbollah idiots from getting arms in and out readily.

Mind you, we all have an opinion on this, but at the end of the day, we will never agree to what is right/wrong.

war is wrong in any form, but because we are humans, we have no other way of resolving issues, its in our nature to destroy.
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Postby dawson99 » Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:05 pm

war is not always wrong tho, maybe the battles can be wrong, but sometimes a means to an end is justified
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