Liverpool FC Forum

[Lando_Griffin]

Let's just nip this little myth in the bud, shall we?

"The Taxpayer" tends to pay a damn site less tax than someone in the public services, and anyone bemoaning having to "pay" a nurse, fireman, soldier or Policeman's wages should hang their heads in f*cking shame and pray they never need saving.

What do people think taxes are for, exactly?

By all means - f*ck off to some godless, lawless sh*thive back water where you pay no tax, but your family gets raped daily... 

[Judge]

lando - tax for lower paid have a more significant effect on their standard of living than does the tax taken from a highly paid person

eg: 10% tax from 12000 per year is worse than 10% off 80000 per year. crude example, but the principle is the same. im not sure what the levies are for the higher paid, but suffice to say they have a better living than those lower paid!! imo

[Bam]

lando - tax for lower paid have a more significant effect on their standard of living than does the tax taken from a highly paid person

eg: 10% tax from 12000 per year is worse than 10% off 80000 per year. crude example, but the principle is the same. im not sure what the levies are for the higher paid, but suffice to say they have a better living than those lower paid!! imo

If you earn more though Judge you are put into a higher tax bracket.

Plus the public sectors like Nurses and teachers, well their wages are not that crash hot.

[Judge]

lando - tax for lower paid have a more significant effect on their standard of living than does the tax taken from a highly paid person

eg: 10% tax from 12000 per year is worse than 10% off 80000 per year. crude example, but the principle is the same. im not sure what the levies are for the higher paid, but suffice to say they have a better living than those lower paid!! imo

If you earn more though Judge you are put into a higher tax bracket.

Plus the public sectors like Nurses and teachers, well their wages are not that crash hot.

i know that, however, even after tax, they are on alot more still - net pay

[GYBS]

Our net pay isnt that great Judge - the best thing about our job pay wise is the pension we get

[Judge]

Our net pay isnt that great Judge - the best thing about our job pay wise is the pension we get

roll on retirement then

[GYBS]

3 years 11 months till i het that 40 mark and can get my pension - leave the forces and get a new career

[Big Niall]

nurses, firemen etc know what the payscales are when they decide to train for those jobs. as soon as they get them they b!tch about how little they are paid and demand more. when the country has more money they get pay rises, when the country has less money they never take pay cuts.

Nurses are not saints, just people doing their job like everybody else and they rarely do anything beyond their exact job specification (even bringing water to patients sometimes) if it is beyond their unions rules.

The country has less money to spend now and therefore everybody on the payroll should get a pay cut or there should be people made redundant just like in the "real world" private sector.

As for their defined benefit pensions - don't get me started.

[Dundalk]

Looking forward to the budget tomorrow Niall

[GYBS]

Well its pretty obvious you have a big grudge against the military , you ask the public sector like the nurses and military to take a pay cut what do you think the first thing that would happen - they would all leave and then where would we be - up shi te creek . For years and years the military has been getting pay rises way below the national average and below any tax increases so the amount of money you actually take home each year on a lot of occasions actually goes down .

And as for their pension - well its worked for bloody hard by the military and fully deserved . And our taxes that we have to pay help pay for it . We have earnt our pay rise by going above and beyond what is required just like the British Military always do - working with sub standard equipment , liviing in sub standard housing that we still have to pay for . No one can deny us the right to have a pay rise - its the private sector that has fecked up the countries money problems not the public sector - so we shouldnt be punished because people spent above thier means.

[Big Niall]

people in the public sector didn't buy houses or run up credit? ? they were demanding pay rises because of the house price increases and this helped fuel it further and leave the country with a higher running cost.


all professions have people that work hard. people in the public sector are no better than people in the private sector - you are not special.

people in the private sector are taking pay cuts or being made redundant.

you guys should feel the same recession pain everyone else has to.

[GYBS]

Who says we are special ? no one said anything of the sort ? why should we feel the same pain as the private sctor when they caused all these problems in the first place . the private sector fecked up the countries economy then they can take the crux of the hits .The forces are stretched to the max with guys spending 9 months of the year in afghan etc and you want them to take a pay cut to help bail out people who got us into the problem in the first place - i think the feck not . we are already under paid compared to others in the private sector in our areas of expertise

Pay rises to keep up with house prices ?!?! we got 1.5% last year yet we eneded up with less money in our pockets due to everything else increaing .

[Judge]

i do think those on active duty should get a higher premium of pay - if your facing death every day then you should be paid a shed load more than some pencil pushing who works in a room with no windows

[GYBS]

Everyone unless you have a medical condition preventing you goes on active duty these days mate - even the pencil pushers are out there in the warzones now .

[Judge]

Everyone unless you have a medical condition preventing you goes on active duty these days mate - even the pencil pushers are out there in the warzones now .

im on about the government pencil pushers