Liverpool FC Forum

[Thommo's perm]

Absolutely faultless display from the Big fella ,very close to being on a par with Gerrard's against West Ham .
I think if he had been given more time against Terry and Co he would have frightened them to an early death .

Absolute mystery why KK didnt play him from the start
Fu'ck up of the season for me

Champions League final . Milan > Liverpool, Rafa > Crouch

On par mate, on par

[RED BEERGOGGLES]

On par mate, on par

I'm just glad he finally looks the part ,lets hope he takes this form into next season , because the Lad
is finally beginning to look like a top player .

[Thommo's perm]

On par mate, on par

I'm just glad he finally looks the part ,lets hope he takes this form into next season , because the Lad
is finally beginning to look like a top player .

Thats because he is.
His minds right now so we will see the player KK saw when he bought him

[RedAnt]

Carroll, like almost all involed with LFC, has had a real tough time in this unique season. He's fought on though whilst at times it's seemed the entire footballing world (with the exception of most of our fans...most of 'em at least) has been on his back about this, that and everything else. He's put in a few match winning displays recently. His reward? Dropped. Were I Carroll, i'd be absolutely fookin' gutted and perhaps starting to wonder if I was at the right club if such performances (plus the goal that got us into the final) aren't enough to cement a place in a team performing waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay below it's level. Credit to the lad for coming on and putting in such a display. His attiude has improved immensely and I think that alone is enough to allow his confidence to grow and in turn for his game to improve.

[stmichael]

Going forward though, his improved form recently and in particular his cameo yesterday, have if anything raised more questions than answers.

Can you get Suarez and Carroll on the pitch at the same time and get the best out of the both of them at the same time without one having a detriment on the other? For me neither of them are capable of leading the line on their own.

The obvious solution is playing 4-3-3 with Carroll down the middles and Suarez playing from a wide area. Can anyone see us doing this though? I've said for ages that it's obvious that's our best formation with the personnel we have.

[The_Rock]

Going forward though, his improved form recently and in particular his cameo yesterday, have if anything raised more questions than answers.

Can you get Suarez and Carroll on the pitch at the same time and get the best out of the both of them at the same time without one having a detriment on the other? For me neither of them are capable of leading the line on their own.

The obvious solution is playing 4-3-3 with Carroll down the middles and Suarez playing from a wide area. Can anyone see us doing this though? I've said for ages that it's obvious that's our best formation with the personnel we have.

If we get rid of downing and play :
                 Carroll
Suaraz                     Gerrard

We should have gone with this 3 players as our front 3. But apparantly gerrard does not play on the flanks 

[Benny The Noon]

Some people feel their support is starting to feel justified right now whilst others are starting to look complete fools.

[Boxscarf]

Some people feel their support is starting to feel justified right now whilst others are starting to look complete fools.

D_C is starting to slowly backtrack on Andy Carroll.

They finally had to admit that Andy put in a stellar performance and is looking better and better with every passing football match.

[parchpea]

Some people feel their support is starting to feel justified right now whilst others are starting to look complete fools.

I think Carroll will need to do better than a few cameos as sub before people will
be convinced he is a real top player and ready to drive Liverpool forward.

The lad has done himself no harm with two goals at Wembley in showpiece
games but we need that kind of effort and quality on a consistent basis
before he can claim to have proved the doubters wrong.

[Boxscarf]

People are getting carried away with regards to Carroll. He's playing well and he is slowly, but surely starting to score goals. My problems with Carroll are not so much him or his ability. It's the small fact of us becoming a long ball team when he plays, we tend to just lump the ball towards Carroll and let's face it with such tactics you're not going to be a very successful side and is Carroll a 20 goals a season striker and can him and Suarez work well together and get the goals we drastically need to climb up the league table?

[red till i die!!]

carroll was immense yesterday and without his introduction it would have been all chelsea for the 90 mins.
he's beginning to cope with the pressure of his price tag and step up to a bigger club with high expectations and his performances are improving.he is a decent striker and he made terry look a fool with his goal yesterday.had his 2nd of been given he would have gotten the hatrick in extratime as chelsea couldnt cope with him.
what i like about him and ive said it before is that he gives us another option up front and an alternative playing style which is what a team needs to be successful.he is an absolute nightmare for defenders and it takes two to pick him up which in turn creates space for those around him.
barca are amazing passing the ball but they are so 1 dimensional and if they cant walk it into the net like they showed against chelsea over 2 legs they dont have an answer.all chelsea had to do was park the bus and stand them up and they couldnt cope.we tried with luis up front on his own and it got us nowhere but when the big man came on we tw@tted them.
we need to sign another quality striker alongside andy and luis for next season and we will have no bother mixing it up and finding the back of the net.
roll on next season

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

carroll was immense yesterday and without his introduction it would have been all chelsea for the 90 mins.
he's beginning to cope with the pressure of his price tag and step up to a bigger club with high expectations and his performances are improving.he is a decent striker and he made terry look a fool with his goal yesterday.had his 2nd of been given he would have gotten the hatrick in extratime as chelsea couldnt cope with him.
what i like about him and ive said it before is that he gives us another option up front and an alternative playing style which is what a team needs to be successful.he is an absolute nightmare for defenders and it takes two to pick him up which in turn creates space for those around him.
barca are amazing passing the ball but they are so 1 dimensional and if they cant walk it into the net like they showed against chelsea over 2 legs they dont have an answer.all chelsea had to do was park the bus and stand them up and they couldnt cope.we tried with luis up front on his own and it got us nowhere but when the big man came on we tw@tted them.
we need to sign another quality striker alongside andy and luis for next season and we will have no bother mixing it up and finding the back of the net.
roll on next season

that is why the best 2 liverpool sides i ever saw (our late 70`s and our late 80`s team) both had target men centre forwards in them, because we could vary our game. our late 70`s team with david johnson leading the line set records for points and goals in the old 2 points for a win era that will never be beaten.
it`s a myth to say that a team with a big man up front cant play passing football.
it`s not the big men hoofing it it`s the other players, replace those players

[ycsatbjywtbiastkamb]

People are getting carried away with regards to Carroll. He's playing well and he is slowly, but surely starting to score goals. My problems with Carroll are not so much him or his ability. It's the small fact of us becoming a long ball team when he plays, we tend to just lump the ball towards Carroll and let's face it with such tactics you're not going to be a very successful side and is Carroll a 20 goals a season striker and can him and Suarez work well together and get the goals we drastically need to climb up the league table?

well what dalglish should do is watch the game carefully and anyone that hoofs it sell them and replace them with good footballers.
having a creative footballing side with a good target man up front is a devastating combination, we had it throughout the 70`s and again in the late 80`s and everton had the combination too in the mid 80`s.
the likes of john barnes, ray houghton, peter beardsley, steve mcmahon, steve nicol, alan hansen etc didnt just aimlessly hoof it up to aldo, we played through sides and put dangerous crosses into the area but only when we got behind them, as a result a lot of our goals came from aldridge headers but he was usually on the end of a great john barnes cross after a intricate passing move.
one year we had the league sown up in february, teams just could not cope with us.
that wimbledon cup final is still regarded as possibly the biggest shock in F.A cup final history but wimbledon were a good side who finished about 6th in the league, in the recent past great sides like leeds, man united and arsenal have lost to lower division sides in the final but we were so good in the late 80`s losing to a team 5 or so places below us was seen as unbelievable to most neutral observers.
that was a team with a target man center forward.
the late 70`s team was probably the best side this club has ever had, we were a crushing machine with what i believe to be the best midfield ever seen in the english game (kennedy, souness, mcdermott, case) that side also had a target man centre forward with kenny dalglish in his late 20`s prime playing behind him.

[stmichael]

personally i think his form recently should merit him going to the euros with england. he looks a lot fitter and stronger to me in recent games.

[Thommo's perm]

People are getting carried away with regards to Carroll. He's playing well and he is slowly, but surely starting to score goals. My problems with Carroll are not so much him or his ability. It's the small fact of us becoming a long ball team when he plays, we tend to just lump the ball towards Carroll and let's face it with such tactics you're not going to be a very successful side and is Carroll a 20 goals a season striker and can him and Suarez work well together and get the goals we drastically need to climb up the league table?

I have just watched the highlights and it seems to me that this phrase *we tend to just lump the ball towards Carroll" is untrue and gets people believing that this is actually the case. Yes there will be times when the ball is put into the penalty area with the hope that Carroll gets his head on it, which he did on nearly every occasion on saturday. But for the most part, if given proper service, like Suarez did with his pinpoint cross, then Carroll will deliver. As has been previously noted though, this pathetic and stupid claim that he is useless on the floor has been blown out of the water and any knob who says it again should just fu'ck off and watch synchronised swimming because they know fu'ck all about football