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ARSENAL VS LIVERPOOL - 20 august 2011, ko: 12:45
Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:01 pmby maypaxvobiscum
INJURY NEWS/SUSPENSIONS
Arsenal - Jack Wilshere is doubtful. Gervinho is suspended while Fabregas and Nasri did not feature in the previous match at all.
Liverpool - Martin Skrtel, Fabio Aurelio and Steven Gerrard are injured. Not too sure about Glen Johnson.
PAST RESULTS
Arsenal 1 1 Liverpool 17 Apr 11
Liverpool 1 1 Arsenal 15th Aug 10
Arsenal 1 0 Liverpool 10th Feb 10
Liverpool 1 2 Arsenal 13th Dec 09
Liverpool 4 4 Arsenal 21st Apr 09
Arsenal 1 1 Liverpool 21st Dec 08
Arsenal 1 1 Liverpool 5th Apr 08
KEY PLAYERS
Arsenal - Arshavin and Walcott.
Liverpool - Suarez and Agger.
SQUADS
Arsenal - Szczesny, Fabianski, Vermaelen, Koscielny, Squillaci, Djourou, Gibbs, Jenkinson, Sagna, Song, Frimpong, Rosicky, Van Persie, Ramsey, Arshavin, Walcott, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Miyaichi and Chamakh.
Liverpool - Reina, Doni, Kelly, Flanagan, Carragher, Agger, Kyrgiakos, Enrique, Robinson, Lucas, Spearing, Adam, Henderson, Meireles, Aquilani, Downing, Cole, Maxi, Suarez, Kuyt, Ngog and Carroll.
...on paper, we do have the stronger team and but recent matches against them have been mostly draws or won by a single goal. I reckon we will win this 2:0 this time. They are there for the taking especially without 3 of their top players.
Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:11 pmby Dundalk
I wanted at least 4 points from the first 2 games. We can still do that but its now going to be a lot harder. This is the best time all season to play Arsenal in London. We must go there and set up to win, we have the players to do it and if we are to finish in the top 4 we need to attack in games like this.
Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:30 pmby Kenny Kan
If we play for 90mins like we did against Sunderland in the first half, against Arsenal I see no reason why we cannot beat them.
Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:32 pmby tubby
Yep. And Arsenal are already in a 
state of mind. Can see this one turning out a draw though.
Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:53 pmby neil
Unfortunately I'm going to need to find a bar in Protaras that is showing this game 
. Anyway we can really make a statement with a victory here, Arsenal could be in trouble qualifying for the CL group stage by next week and if we take all 3 points they would be languishing near the bottom of the league. I say 3-0, Suarez hatrick.
Posted:
Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:54 pmby SupitsJonF
Walcott more a key player than Van Persie? 
Posted:
Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:48 amby aCe'
I think we'll need to be stronger in the middle to handle them.. They still have decent players and will always look to keep possession especially at home...
We cant afford to allow them too much possession especially given the situation with our back line.. Like DD said, its probably the best time to play them and with Gervinho, Wilshere, Diaby , and probably Song (FA expected to suspend him) all missing we should really be taking all points from them this time around..
Walcott, Arshavin and RVP are all threats upfront and unless we really control the game then I can see them scoring against us..
They play Udinese on Tuesday so hopefully one or more of their players are tired/unavailable after that fixture...
As for us, I think we should be starting a strong side for this one.. Assuming Aquilani is on his way out and wont feature, I'd go for this lineup:
Reina
Johnson Carra Agger Enrique
Lucas Meireles
Adam
Suarez Downing
Carroll
Posted:
Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:20 amby Zidane
Our right side should drastically improve with Glen back and I expect Enrique to show his attacking side a hell of a lot more than last match. He obviously played within himself he admitted as much on his interview. I expect us to win this honestly but it all depends on the midfield, imo Adam has to be ready to work very hard defensively and let the game come to him on the offensive side for me he's forcing and rushing too many things and it's getting us very unorganized. Hopefully we'll be a bit fitter as well, our fitness levels aren't where they should be right now and we'll need to work hard to get a result there. I still have a good feeling about the season and I don't see us losing the match really.
Arsenal is in bad shape imo and with the announced sale of Cesc players will be unsettled about the future imo. They really haven't bought anyone and I am certain that a lot of players are getting tired of Wenger not spending enough. Being a bit dramatic and all, but this match could signal the beginning of a bad season for Arsenal and the beginning of a good season for us.
Posted:
Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:23 amby Raoul
I'm with aCe, except if Johnson isn't right then I want Kuyt playing in front of Flanno/Kelly. We'd then drop Adam or Meireles.
Posted:
Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:31 amby ethanr
Kenny Kan wrote:If we play for 90mins like we did against Sunderland in the first half, against Arsenal I see no reason why we cannot beat them.
First game of the season is always a bit weird because of the fact that preseason games are never close to actual premier league games. The pace and physicality is so much different, but I think our squad know what to expect. I was actually quite impressed with Enrique considering he had signed 24 hours earlier, he actually looked extremely solid and composed. We can probably expect him getting up the line a bit more now that he's that much more comfortable. Hopefully Suarez will last the 90 after his rest, I think he'll be good to go. I expect Kuyt in again as this is the type of game he excels at.
Our club is ready now. Both Arsenal and Liverpool always step up in these matches, so it's really hard to say where it's gonna go, but this is the best time to play Arsenal. They have no replacements for Nasri and Fabregas, and Wilshire and Gervinho are out, so I imagine we are in good shape, especially if Johnson is back fit.
There's no reason we shouldn't play like we did in the first half now. I expect us to play a more complete game and I know we're capable of taking this one.
Posted:
Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:11 amby SouthCoastShankly
If there's ever a time to beat them it is now.
No Fabregas (Transfer), Nasri (left out last week), Wallcott (Injured), Gervinho (Suspended), Song (more than likely be suspended this week for his sneaky stamp in the Newcastle game)
Talk about depleted.
Posted:
Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:15 amby SouthCoastShankly
aCe' wrote:I think we'll need to be stronger in the middle to handle them.. They still have decent players and will always look to keep possession especially at home...
We cant afford to allow them too much possession especially given the situation with our back line.. Like DD said, its probably the best time to play them and with Gervinho, Wilshere, Diaby , and probably Song (FA expected to suspend him) all missing we should really be taking all points from them this time around..
Walcott, Arshavin and RVP are all threats upfront and unless we really control the game then I can see them scoring against us..
They play Udinese on Tuesday so hopefully one or more of their players are tired/unavailable after that fixture...
As for us, I think we should be starting a strong side for this one.. Assuming Aquilani is on his way out and wont feature, I'd go for this lineup:
Reina
Johnson Carra Agger Enrique
Lucas Meireles
Adam
Suarez Downing
Carroll
It's a good line up but the fact remains that Meireles has never played that role for us, I can't see that changing. Meireles will always be deployed as either an attacking option or a wide role in a narrow midfield. Never a holding role.
Posted:
Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:18 amby SouthCoastShankly
As for our line up against Arsenal
Defence
Johnson for Flanagan. A mare for Flanagan on Saturday, we need experience.
Midfield
Kuyt for Henderson. I'll be interested to see if Dalglish persists with Henderson. Arsenal will be heavy on possession, Kuyt offers the work rate needed to break down that possession.
Attack
No changes. I think it is obvious that Suarez and Carroll need as many minutes as possible as a partnership. Dalglish wont even consider changing that.
Posted:
Mon Aug 15, 2011 5:12 pmby Greavesie
If we set up to win we can beat these. Their squad is thin and having to play CL games between this so hopefully tiredness and resting players will be an issue for them. The still haven't addressed their defensive issues nor the imminent departure of Nasri (hopefully he won't play against us), Gervinho's suspended and I'm also hoping for some retrospective punishment on Song for the stamp
Morale should be low as well with Cesc finally being out of the picture
I agree with what SCS has said above, set up that way and don't give them a minutes peace, if we play with the passion and determination of last season, we'll get the win.
Can't wait!! COME ON!!
EDIT - Song will miss the game as well! 
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Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:33 amby ruskiy playmaker
I just hope we dont sit back against them like last season. Carroll is really ineffective when hes isolated.