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metalhead wrote:

ethanr wrote:I thought Torres looked more sharp but kept getting stuck up there alone.  I'm surprised anybody thought Raul was any good.  I thought it was his worst game yet.  Yea he scored the goal that was nice, but other than that he consistantly played out of position and gave the ball away time and time again.  He had a very off game. Kelly started strong but seemed to die off a bit at the end.  Kuyt had an ok second half but wasn't that great.  Didn't see maxi in the first half at all except that missed chance from 3 yards, he was nowhere to be seen today.  Skrtel was horrible.  I hate to say stop starting Skrtel because my girlfriend loves him but it seems like his time has come.  Lucas was alright today.  I thought Agger did well in the first half.  Reina seems to be misjudging too many things lately. I thought Johnson did decent today, but the way he played always getting the ball to his right foot and doing more offensively than defensively just proves the point he needs to be tried at right mid or nowhere at all.  Spearing was alright.  Made some little mistakes but worked his @ss off.

Meireles had a fantastic first half, ran alot and worked his socks off. He just got really tired in the second half, hence he started giving the ball away. I was made up when he scored, fantastic finish from him

He has been playing alot of games recently, maybe he just needs a rest?

metalhead wrote:Who the hell will play instead of Skrtel? Kyriagkos? same ability, both are average at best. Who the f*ck do we have another striker to play with Torres? Ngog-Torres partnership never worked, even if Babel played with Torres it would have never worked, we need a ''Tevez'' type of striker to work with Torres, or once Gerrard is back we can put him off Torres.

Johnson had a brilliant game, again it was not his fault for the two goals. Kelly was also stand out player for me.

so tell me... we don't have carragher, who is injured and Agger got ill, who would you play in center back? Wilson? an 18 year old inexperienced defender?

our squad is ... and the players looked up for it at least! but its down to quality that we didn't win the game

OK first of all i agree our squad is ,I agree Kenny has a huge task at hand and the cards he is playing are mostly shiite.

But YES ,Soto should play everytime before Skertel ,he defends in the air much better and is always a threat on offence in set plays. So yes no brainer.

Yes Torres-Ngog worked OK and we looked much better playing the 2 strikers options ,Even Pacheco is a good option. If you can't see how desperate torres is when he plays alone then you are blind.

Johnson is NOT a LB ,and even when he plays his natural position his defence is shakey ,so why not play AURELLIO a natural LB ,us Johnson as a winger (instead of Kuyt for example)??

I wouldn't put much faith or hope in Carra ,was poor and shakey before injury wouldn't offer much help when he returns.
So Yes because our team is poor our manager must be on his top game on his top selection and reaction .can't say i noticed it on both league matches..

only me wrote:If you can't see how desperate torres is when he plays alone then you are blind.

His best season when he scored was it 33 goals.. he played as a LONE striker.. your the blind one not me buddy

ethanr wrote:

metalhead wrote:

ethanr wrote:I thought Torres looked more sharp but kept getting stuck up there alone.  I'm surprised anybody thought Raul was any good.  I thought it was his worst game yet.  Yea he scored the goal that was nice, but other than that he consistantly played out of position and gave the ball away time and time again.  He had a very off game. Kelly started strong but seemed to die off a bit at the end.  Kuyt had an ok second half but wasn't that great.  Didn't see maxi in the first half at all except that missed chance from 3 yards, he was nowhere to be seen today.  Skrtel was horrible.  I hate to say stop starting Skrtel because my girlfriend loves him but it seems like his time has come.  Lucas was alright today.  I thought Agger did well in the first half.  Reina seems to be misjudging too many things lately. I thought Johnson did decent today, but the way he played always getting the ball to his right foot and doing more offensively than defensively just proves the point he needs to be tried at right mid or nowhere at all.  Spearing was alright.  Made some little mistakes but worked his @ss off.

Meireles had a fantastic first half, ran alot and worked his socks off. He just got really tired in the second half, hence he started giving the ball away. I was made up when he scored, fantastic finish from him

He has been playing alot of games recently, maybe he just needs a rest?

Really? You think he played a good first half?  I honestly thought he was just giving the ball away way too much.  Credit to him some of the time he was trying to create runs for Torres, but I still thought he was just not getting done what he needed to.

Maybe I'm just used to getting a lot more from him.  Don't get me wrong, I really like him.  I think he was a good signing and a good player, and you could be right, he may need a break because he does work his balls off, but he just wasn't doing it for me today. At times he was running like mad and the next second an Everton player would be going past him and he didn't seem to put in much effort to stop him.  His passing just seemed quite off.

only me wrote:You talk of of converting chances? well maybe if we had another striker on the field we could have done better.

metalhead wrote:

only me wrote:If you can't see how desperate torres is when he plays alone then you are blind.

His best season when he scored was it 33 goals.. he played as a LONE striker.. your the blind one not me buddy

metalhead wrote:

only me wrote:If you can't see how desperate torres is when he plays alone then you are blind.

His best season when he scored was it 33 goals.. he played as a LONE striker.. your the blind one not me buddy

Emerald Red wrote:

lakes10 wrote:

Emerald Red wrote:

lakes10 wrote:ok i am going to go for it sorry

strange line, wrong player at Left back, why did kenny not go for it and put a striker on as sub?

Meireles was very good today, Torres only has a good 15mins at the end of the first half and apart from that he doing nothing.
yet again poor passing by the whole team.

lucky to get a point in the end.

felt let down in the 2nd half but shows how much we need new players and shows it was not just down to the managers why we have not been getting the results this year.

oh and the back 4? ,sell them all

You seriously can't be for real with that post.


what





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bollox.

very real. why do you think he did not put another striker on?
was he worried that if he did it would knock Torres confidence by a way of saying he can not get a goal on his own today?

do you think the left back thing is working?

do you think we need players?

Lakes, we were rocking for a good 15 minutes. Agger didn't come out in the second half. Bring another striker on? Right, so what formation would we have went if we did that?

bunglemark2 wrote:Only caught the last 15 mins or so...but what I did see, we looked pi$$ poor again....Another striker, a couple of decent centre-halves (or is there ANYBODY at ALL coming up through the ranks, if we don't have a pot to pi$$ in ??), a decent winger either side and we might have a half decent shout of a Useless Cup position at the end of this season...

only me wrote:

metalhead wrote:

only me wrote:If you can't see how desperate torres is when he plays alone then you are blind.

His best season when he scored was it 33 goals.. he played as a LONE striker.. your the blind one not me buddy

Guess what buddy this isn't that season and he isn't being serviced a lousy chip ,so as this is the case the 2 strikers option is the best one we have for now.

metalhead wrote:

ethanr wrote:

metalhead wrote:

ethanr wrote:I thought Torres looked more sharp but kept getting stuck up there alone.  I'm surprised anybody thought Raul was any good.  I thought it was his worst game yet.  Yea he scored the goal that was nice, but other than that he consistantly played out of position and gave the ball away time and time again.  He had a very off game. Kelly started strong but seemed to die off a bit at the end.  Kuyt had an ok second half but wasn't that great.  Didn't see maxi in the first half at all except that missed chance from 3 yards, he was nowhere to be seen today.  Skrtel was horrible.  I hate to say stop starting Skrtel because my girlfriend loves him but it seems like his time has come.  Lucas was alright today.  I thought Agger did well in the first half.  Reina seems to be misjudging too many things lately. I thought Johnson did decent today, but the way he played always getting the ball to his right foot and doing more offensively than defensively just proves the point he needs to be tried at right mid or nowhere at all.  Spearing was alright.  Made some little mistakes but worked his @ss off.

Meireles had a fantastic first half, ran alot and worked his socks off. He just got really tired in the second half, hence he started giving the ball away. I was made up when he scored, fantastic finish from him

He has been playing alot of games recently, maybe he just needs a rest?

Really? You think he played a good first half?  I honestly thought he was just giving the ball away way too much.  Credit to him some of the time he was trying to create runs for Torres, but I still thought he was just not getting done what he needed to.

Maybe I'm just used to getting a lot more from him.  Don't get me wrong, I really like him.  I think he was a good signing and a good player, and you could be right, he may need a break because he does work his balls off, but he just wasn't doing it for me today. At times he was running like mad and the next second an Everton player would be going past him and he didn't seem to put in much effort to stop him.  His passing just seemed quite off.

I think so, was involved in most of the attacks, almost set up one for Maxi at the end when he closed down disten really well. I agree, I think he gave the ball way too much, but that happened in the second half. I didn't like his role to be honest, I think I prefer him to be in a conventional midfield central role, he played a bit higher for me today.