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STOKE CITY VS LIVERPOOL - 13 november 2010, ko: 17:30
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 6:56 pmby maypaxvobiscum
this season's table is so tight at the moment that 14th Blackpool could actually go on level points with 5th placed Newcastle should the teams win and lose respectively.
apart from us, there are 5 other teams who are on 16 points. the importance of winning this away match cannot be clearer.
Stoke has conceded 8 goals in 3 matches at home so we should not have a problem scoring. the issue would be how many goals we score and how focus the players are. the previous match at Wigan, for whatever reason, they seemed to switch off after scoring the first. another 8-0 victory would be nice 
so im hoping the lads have a more cold blooded mentality and finish the game off instead of taking us for yet another mentally and emotionally volatile ride.
if Glen Johnson is back, would you see him start ahead of Kelly?
would anyone start Ngog up front with Torres or is Torres better off playing without a partner but with a midfield supporting him instead?
its a pity our Greek is probably unavailable as he would be so valuable at set pieces and would give Shawcross problems at corners.
3-1 win for us.
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:39 pmby metalhead
1-1 or 1-0 scrappy win for us
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:13 pmby stmichael
This will be a harder game than Wigan, make no bones about it. If we surrender the majority of possession then we'll get beat as Stoke are a direct team who'll get balls into our box at every opportunity. We can't afford to be defending on our own 18 yard line. The Greek has to play.
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:22 pmby Reg
3 - 0 to Stoke
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:23 pmby ruskiy playmaker
Reg wrote:3 - 0 to Stoke
I know we're 
, but 3-0?
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Thu Nov 11, 2010 8:49 pmby burjennio
If Kyrgiakos doesnt play I think we will lose. To Stoke City.
It was hard to type that sentence but as much as it says about our decline it says alot about how far Stoke have come and with big Kenwyne Jones up front if the lads on form he is an absolute handful for any back 4. The last two seasons we've given as good as we've got at the Britannia and were unlucky not to win both games. The pivotal thing for me here, and Im not the 1st guy on here to stress this is we cant camp out in our own penalty box and expect to be able to do anything but be battered by playing into their hands.
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 5:33 amby maypaxvobiscum
i forgot that they have a certain Delap who loves throwing long balls into the box.....
they have a certain Pennant who plays for them as well
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 8:26 amby Red-er-Dare
Soto should come back into the side for this fixture for Skertel with that being the only change to defence. Out of the midfielders Maxi should literally be rested for this game, he was very labourous against Wigan midweek. I think the midfield needs a makeover somewhat, I'd keep Lucas and Gerrard in the middle and perhaps if he's fit give Johnson a go at RM, with Ecclestone on the left and continue with Kuyt playing off Torres. If we're to continue playing the sit deep approach we should at least have a couple of pacy-er wide men who offer more threat and width from the flanks.
It is a bit of a shake up I admit, but after the Wigan performance it may well be necessary, some of our lads looked leggy.
============== Reina
==== Kelly Carragher Soto Konchesky
=Johnson(if fit) Lucas Gerrard Ecclestone
=============Kuyt
==============Torres
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:37 amby bigmick
Well we haven't won there in either of the last two seasons, and I don't think it will be any easier this time. My guess is it'll be a draw, which should be enough to convince people once more that Roy is a "fecking disgrace" and that it's a "joke of a result" as we should really be beating these 6-0.
As for the team Torres desperately needs a rest, Gerrard probably does and so does Mereiles. As we haven't got any viable alternatives though, i think we'll play the same team which was a "fecking disgrace" in the 1-1 draw at Wigan, save for Glen Johnson replacing Kelly, which will coincidently get a few more people "fecking fuming" pre match.
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 9:44 amby Thewaykokid
All of hodgson's talk about poulsen has worried me.......really don't want to see him anywhere near starting eleven. This is how i think we'll line up
Reina
Carra Skrtel The Greek Konchesky
Meireles Lucas Gerrard Maxi
Kuyt
Torres
Would however like to see us really take the match to Stoke with something like this
Reina
Kelly Skrtel The Greek Konchesky
Maxi Lucas Meireles Kuyt
Gerrard
Torres
Think that the Gerrard-Torres combo needs to be utilised for this match, cole not fit, Meireles needs to be back in the centre, Maxi need to be on the right, would possibly play johnson if fit but he's been so awful this season. Carra cannot cope with the aerial threat of stoke, skrtel was IMO better against wigan, konchesky our only LB with aurelio injured or unfit. Think we'll have a 3-2 win with goals from Torres, Kuyt and Meireles
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:45 pmby Benny The Noon
bigmick wrote:Well we haven't won there in either of the last two seasons, and I don't think it will be any easier this time. My guess is it'll be a draw, which should be enough to convince people once more that Roy is a "fecking disgrace" and that it's a "joke of a result" as we should really be beating these 6-0.
As for the team Torres desperately needs a rest, Gerrard probably does and so does Mereiles. As we haven't got any viable alternatives though, i think we'll play the same team which was a "fecking disgrace" in the 1-1 draw at Wigan, save for Glen Johnson replacing Kelly, which will coincidently get a few more people "fecking fuming" pre match.
Can you no longer post without all the snide remarks ?
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:09 pmby metalhead
Benny The Noon wrote:bigmick wrote:Well we haven't won there in either of the last two seasons, and I don't think it will be any easier this time. My guess is it'll be a draw, which should be enough to convince people once more that Roy is a "fecking disgrace" and that it's a "joke of a result" as we should really be beating these 6-0.
As for the team Torres desperately needs a rest, Gerrard probably does and so does Mereiles. As we haven't got any viable alternatives though, i think we'll play the same team which was a "fecking disgrace" in the 1-1 draw at Wigan, save for Glen Johnson replacing Kelly, which will coincidently get a few more people "fecking fuming" pre match.
Can you no longer post without all the snide remarks ?
Well, he has a point
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:42 pmby Roger Red Hat
Stoke 1 - 2 Liverpool (Torres, Kuyt)
It'll be a drab affair, we'll take a 1 nil lead with a Torres goal then just after half time Stoke will score, 87th minute - Kuyt will net to win us the game.
I've got a mate whose Mum's milkmans son-in-law has a contact in Anfield - the above was written on Roy's To Do pad.
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:55 pmby jacdaniel
There is zero point in comparing EVERY game to the result last year. When we drew with Sunderland, nobody pointed out that we won that game last year. Same goes for the Derby and so on.....
Anyways, i think we conceded a last minute goal against Stoke last year.
However, what we do know is that we need to be beating teams like Stoke if we want to get back into the top 4. When we drew there last year...it was a bad result. And it will also be a bad result if we draw again.
I said 7 points against Wigan, stoke and WH would do and ill stick with that. Thats the kinda return we need to get up to 4th spot.
Its a shame that some people can't let go of last season's results and seem to be trying to get some excuses in already. We need to remember that the previous manager got sacked for last season's results.
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Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:28 pmby Benny The Noon
metalhead wrote:Benny The Noon wrote:bigmick wrote:Well we haven't won there in either of the last two seasons, and I don't think it will be any easier this time. My guess is it'll be a draw, which should be enough to convince people once more that Roy is a "fecking disgrace" and that it's a "joke of a result" as we should really be beating these 6-0.
As for the team Torres desperately needs a rest, Gerrard probably does and so does Mereiles. As we haven't got any viable alternatives though, i think we'll play the same team which was a "fecking disgrace" in the 1-1 draw at Wigan, save for Glen Johnson replacing Kelly, which will coincidently get a few more people "fecking fuming" pre match.
Can you no longer post without all the snide remarks ?
Well, he has a point
Maybe mate but is there a need to post it every single time and make out like its everyone who is doing it ?