Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:17 pm30 members browsing this topic,,,
why is it soo quiet in here?
am i missing suttin on telly?
why is it soo quiet in here?
am i missing suttin on telly?
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LIVERPOOL VS FIORIENTINA - Anfield wednesday 09/12/09 ko 7.45pm
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Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:17 pmPosted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:31 pmyer, you are- sensible debate an good insight on LFC TV it's called support the manager an team through thick an thin!
Posted: Wed Dec 09, 2009 11:39 pmwhy do we have to support a manager who cant buy a win, is very stubborn, has bought so many 2nd rate players its untrue, made our squad worse than when he came, plays poor formations, tactics and substitutions, cant drop players when completely out of form(kuyt).
look guys end of day as i said where do we draw the line for such mediocre performances, is it when we are languising in 12th with 4 wins from 20 games?, or maybe after we get knocked out of europa and fa.cup.
i'm just becoming seriously confused with the infatuation towards this man who 5 years ago masterminded one of the greatest comebacks in history, that really was 5 years ago, but right now he has reached the end of the line imo.
look guys end of day as i said where do we draw the line for such mediocre performances, is it when we are languising in 12th with 4 wins from 20 games?, or maybe after we get knocked out of europa and fa.cup.
i'm just becoming seriously confused with the infatuation towards this man who 5 years ago masterminded one of the greatest comebacks in history, that really was 5 years ago, but right now he has reached the end of the line imo.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:18 amGoing by recent standards I didn't think the performance was too bad. The midfield did quite well overall, the defence showed too much vulnerability all round, while up front Kuyt had a Kuyt-up-front-on-his-own type of game, which seriously stunted much of our good approach play. Aquilani did OK first half I thought, was almost totally absent in the second and he clearly isn't to speed yet. Pacheco showed why he should be in the first team squad on a more regular basis.
It was another game completely there for the taking second half but we simply didn't do enough in the final third and ultimately paid for some very sloppy defending from an incisive Fiorentina counter attack. Technically it obviously changes absolutely nothing because we were gone already, it was though a decent opportunity to build on a recent upturn in form of sorts with a solid performance and a win.
It was another game completely there for the taking second half but we simply didn't do enough in the final third and ultimately paid for some very sloppy defending from an incisive Fiorentina counter attack. Technically it obviously changes absolutely nothing because we were gone already, it was though a decent opportunity to build on a recent upturn in form of sorts with a solid performance and a win.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:20 amMate, there were far too many muck performances again from the likes of Kuyt, Benayoun (in particular), Darby and Skrtel....Poison, the four of them...
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:20 amIm just disillusioned. The players look as if they are also. Regarding Aquilani, why didnt rafa risk him a few games back. He needed match practice but rafas reasoning was "these were tough games so it wasnt worth the risk". Correct me if im wrong, I would expect our biggest and best players to play in the "tough" games. If he was afraid to play him in case of aggravating the injury then the question has to be, why bloody sign him in the first place injured if you think he is made of glass?
His treatment of players over the last couple of seasons, I think, has led to a loss of confidence in him from the players. His decision making in matches just leave us all baffled. We need another striker, someone who can put the ball in the back of the net HOWEVER rafa also has to have a pesonal favouritism towards them. I say this as I look towards Crouch and Keane, especially Crouch. He scored goals. Now I would have thought this is what you wanted from a striker, and Keane when he started to go on a run rafa decided to drop them. Alonso another example, last season he was brilliant for us but rafas treatment of him at the end of the season confirmed he puts his own favouritsm first before the club. Towards Mascherano he made it clear he didnt want him to leave and that he classed him as a key player and wants him to stay. Alonso got "The fans want you here so perhaps you should stay".
The fulham match also showed he is frustrating certain players. Yossi Benayoun. One of the few players who looked as if he will make something happen was then taken off, and you could see his frustration and how angry he was at that decision. I think this season has exploded in rafas face. The players, by looking at their performances, just look fed up and disillusioned. And to be honest, who can blame them?
His treatment of players over the last couple of seasons, I think, has led to a loss of confidence in him from the players. His decision making in matches just leave us all baffled. We need another striker, someone who can put the ball in the back of the net HOWEVER rafa also has to have a pesonal favouritism towards them. I say this as I look towards Crouch and Keane, especially Crouch. He scored goals. Now I would have thought this is what you wanted from a striker, and Keane when he started to go on a run rafa decided to drop them. Alonso another example, last season he was brilliant for us but rafas treatment of him at the end of the season confirmed he puts his own favouritsm first before the club. Towards Mascherano he made it clear he didnt want him to leave and that he classed him as a key player and wants him to stay. Alonso got "The fans want you here so perhaps you should stay".
The fulham match also showed he is frustrating certain players. Yossi Benayoun. One of the few players who looked as if he will make something happen was then taken off, and you could see his frustration and how angry he was at that decision. I think this season has exploded in rafas face. The players, by looking at their performances, just look fed up and disillusioned. And to be honest, who can blame them?
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:27 amI watched an interview with Rafa at the end of the game and you have to ask what bleedin' planet he lives on. The interviewer asked a simple question, for an honest assessment of the overall campaign. The answer should have been simple and straightforward : "We / I phucked up. We were [email]cr@p.....[/email]" or words to that effect.
Yet he STILL somehow managed to say the usual "We created some good chances..."
Rafa, you cabbage - "chances" do not win matches. GOALS do, you divvy...
This campaign, this season, has been nothing short of muck. The players have been muck. The attitude has been muck. The lack of application an embarrassment, nay, a disgrace.
Yet he STILL somehow managed to say the usual "We created some good chances..."
Rafa, you cabbage - "chances" do not win matches. GOALS do, you divvy...
This campaign, this season, has been nothing short of muck. The players have been muck. The attitude has been muck. The lack of application an embarrassment, nay, a disgrace.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:28 ambunglemark2 wrote:[email=cr@p.....]cr@p.....[/email]
Why do people do this? Is it a mistake, a glitch, a joke?
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:52 ambunglemark2 wrote:I watched an interview with Rafa at the end of the game and you have to ask what bleedin' planet he lives on. The interviewer asked a simple question, for an honest assessment of the overall campaign. The answer should have been simple and straightforward : "We / I phucked up. We were [email=cr@p.....]cr@p.....[/email]" or words to that effect.
Yet he STILL somehow managed to say the usual "We created some good chances..."
Rafa, you cabbage - "chances" do not win matches. GOALS do, you divvy...
This campaign, this season, has been nothing short of muck. The players have been muck. The attitude has been muck. The lack of application an embarrassment, nay, a disgrace.
Because the interviewer after the game was just being a complete pleb with predectable, boring questions. Why not ask about something more constructive instead of really jabbing the knife in instead? Rafa should have just told him tof fuck clean off and taken a fine for it.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 12:59 amEmerald Red wrote:bunglemark2 wrote:I watched an interview with Rafa at the end of the game and you have to ask what bleedin' planet he lives on. The interviewer asked a simple question, for an honest assessment of the overall campaign. The answer should have been simple and straightforward : "We / I phucked up. We were [email=cr@p.....]cr@p.....[/email]" or words to that effect.
Yet he STILL somehow managed to say the usual "We created some good chances..."
Rafa, you cabbage - "chances" do not win matches. GOALS do, you divvy...
This campaign, this season, has been nothing short of muck. The players have been muck. The attitude has been muck. The lack of application an embarrassment, nay, a disgrace.
Because the interviewer after the game was just being a complete pleb with predectable, boring questions. Why not ask about something more constructive instead of really jabbing the knife in instead? Rafa should have just told him tof fuck clean off and taken a fine for it.
Real life is different to this forum though mate. you can't just tell people to feck off if they ask you a question which has a difficult answer. If you do, anybody listening in concludes that you are a clueless c...
This is probably why Rafa trtied to waffle his way out of it.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 1:02 amLFC2007 wrote:bunglemark2 wrote:[email=cr@p.....]cr@p.....[/email]
Why do people do this? Is it a mistake, a glitch, a joke?
If you include a @ in a word and then add dots it glitches. eg [email=s@int......]s@int......[/email]
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[email]s@int.....[/email]
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:24 amagoodmentality wrote:30 members browsing this topic,,,
why is it soo quiet in here?
am i missing suttin on telly?
Becos its depressing..........
Something is wrong with the team this season. Its as if the players don't want to play for the manager anymore.
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 4:52 amDani Pacheco
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcDDojBIyAE&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Wow, dribble like Messi around player at his age. Someone start a thread for him!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcDDojBIyAE&NR=1&feature=fvwp
Wow, dribble like Messi around player at his age. Someone start a thread for him!
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:54 amCiggy wrote:It was better than the Blackburn game anyway wasnt it?
You know guys its only a game of football I put the ITV news at ten on last night over 100 people killed, 100s wounded and then five soldiers got buried from Afghanistan really young men had lost their lives which takes the British soldiers death toll to 100. This mornin at 7 I recieved a phone call from my mum that my cousins baby had died 22 months old meningitus but they thought she had swine flu and diagonsed her wrongfully, that baby died in 48 hours a little girl within two days her life was gone, monday she was right as rain tuesday night she had died.
Dont get angry there are worst things happening in the world at the moment.
Get some perspective in your lives. Im feckin gutted Ive never been to a babys funeral dreading it.
Sorry to hear that Ciggy, too many of my family members have died at relatively young ages but none nearly as young as that. Unfortunately there is so much media attention and consequently public attention on swine flu that a sneeze is called swine flu and this is a sad consequence
Posted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 8:57 ambigmick wrote:Emerald Red wrote:bunglemark2 wrote:I watched an interview with Rafa at the end of the game and you have to ask what bleedin' planet he lives on. The interviewer asked a simple question, for an honest assessment of the overall campaign. The answer should have been simple and straightforward : "We / I phucked up. We were [email=cr@p.....]cr@p.....[/email]" or words to that effect.
Yet he STILL somehow managed to say the usual "We created some good chances..."
Rafa, you cabbage - "chances" do not win matches. GOALS do, you divvy...
This campaign, this season, has been nothing short of muck. The players have been muck. The attitude has been muck. The lack of application an embarrassment, nay, a disgrace.
Because the interviewer after the game was just being a complete pleb with predectable, boring questions. Why not ask about something more constructive instead of really jabbing the knife in instead? Rafa should have just told him tof fuck clean off and taken a fine for it.
Real life is different to this forum though mate. you can't just tell people to feck off if they ask you a question which has a difficult answer. If you do, anybody listening in concludes that you are a clueless c...
This is probably why Rafa trtied to waffle his way out of it.
Perhaps he should sit down and think out some more sensible responses that aren't likely to envoke come provoke hostile reactions from the fans.
Hasn't he tried the "hey I'm a Liverpool fan" approach recently, quoting YNWA etc? Well why doesn't he try something like "the result was not good, we didn't put chances away, we let them have too many chances and they took more than us. We are getting one or two players back that could make a difference and we're looking to get back on track starting with Arsenal" Things like "must win" and "we will finish in the top four" are not convincing and just annoy fans