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Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:45 pm**

they say there is a God

even in times of adversity

moving on, we walk on

prediction? 4-0 to Liverpool

ps: click on each link and follow it like a storyboard.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2009 10:52 pm**

Pah! I see your measly 4-0 and raise you

7-0

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:34 pm**

Silly 1-1 draw here...has it written all over.

Posted: **Thu Nov 05, 2009 11:38 pm**

I can always remember us being really unlucky against Birmingham :angry:

They are on good form at the moment and actually put up quite a fight against man city.

In the back of my mind im thinking it might be a draw.. but il guess 3-1 torres scoring 2 and then aquilani

Posted: **Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:39 am**

I wonder if aqua man will start this one or maybe rafa will protect him more and give him 15 mins!!!

I'd say 2-1..

Posted: **Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:10 am**

Well as ever it's a "must win". Not this time around to get us into the title race, but to get us going a bit so we can make sure we have a good shot at getting into the top four. They've given us problems in the past but they won't here, we will win. it might not be pretty, but we will get over the line which is the main thing. 1-0.

Posted: **Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:31 am**

Why isn't the 69 dude opening the match threads....he has been doing a decent job (a win and a draw against decent opposition).

Posted: **Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:49 am**

Sending out an SOS - we need Bermenstein. I reckon it was a manc or bitter plot and they've kidnapped him, or worse still killed him, or worse even still, taken him over to the dark side.

The way we're playing it could be a poor performance and any result, or we could play well and not win, I don't know which is worse.

Our record against brum under Rafa is not great, P8 W2 D4 L2.

PREM 2004/05 - lost home and away
PREM 2005/06 - drew home and away
FAC 2005/06 - won 7-0 away in the cup
LC 2006/07 - won 1-0 away in the cup
PREM 2007/08 - drew home and away

So we've yet to beat brum in SIX head to head meetings in the league under Rafa. I think we might this time, but then I thought we might beat Fulham, Sunderland, Lyon (home or away) and villa but we didn't.

Is it "must win", well naturally when you've lost as many games as you've won then draws and defeats aren't going to improve things. Despite being more or less out of contention for the league, we are still in the shake-up for a top four place

1. Chelsea P11 PTS 27 (GD +20)
2. Man Utd P11 PTS 25 (GD +12)
3. Arsenal P10 PTS 22 (GD +19)

4. Man City P10 PTS 19 (GD +7)
5. Tottenham P11 PTS 19 (GD +4)
6. Liverpool P11 PTS 18 (GD +9)
7. A Villa P11 PTS 18 (GD +4)
8. Sunderland P11 PTS 17 (GD +3)

9. Stoke P11 PTS 16 (GD -2)

All the second group are within three points of the side in fourth. I've not put Citeh in the top group as they would need to win and have a sizeable shift in GD (+/- 12) to go third so I consider that a gap of more than just three points, likewise Stoke (+/- 9) You could factor in Citeh's game in hand, but the gap is based on one result shift not two results

How many of us thought we'd be worrying about finishing fourth rather than hoping we'd mount a title challenge? Was it hope or expectation? I certainly didn't think we'd be nine points behind after just 11 games (and 11 GD)

Posted: **Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:50 am**

Fauxy wrote:I can always remember us being really unlucky against Birmingham

Yeah, when we beat them 7-0 we just didn't get anything go our way, should have been 20 :laugh:

Posted: **Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:53 am**

Owzat wrote:
Fauxy wrote:I can always remember us being really unlucky against Birmingham

Yeah, when we beat them 7-0 we just didn't get anything go our way, should have been 20

he's right though.in the league i remember muzzy izzet literally punching one off the line and getting away with it, pennant (who?) running rings around us and subsequently earning a move to us and even xabi scoring a freak own goal in the last minute to earn them a draw.

they're notoriously difficult to break down so benayoun has to play in the middle for me.

Posted: **Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:38 pm**

If we can't beat Birmingham at home without Torres and Gerrard we are not a top four side.

Torres should be rested either to continue recovering or to have surgery. Both Gerrard and Johnson also should not be risked.

If Aquilani is fit, I would go with something like:

Reina

Kelly Agger Kyriagos Insua

Mascherano

Kuyt Aquilani Lucas Benayoun

Ngog

If not,

Kuyt Mascherano Lucas Babel

Benayoun
Ngog

Posted: **Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:43 pm**

surely this is a certain three points? Surely

If we dont win this I will actually cry

Posted: **Fri Nov 06, 2009 1:55 pm**

Greavesie wrote:surely this is a certain three points? Surely

If we dont win this I will actually cry

Have you seen Birmingham recently?? I actually wouldnt be toooo surprised if this was a draw. If we loose then I will be surprised.

Team I would like to see:

Reina

Kelly Agger Skrtel Insua

Lucas Mascherano

Kuyt Aquilani Benayoun

Torres

Posted: **Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:27 pm**

is Kelly fit?

Posted: **Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:35 pm**

torres won't play.

reina

carra skrtel agger insua

mascherano lucas

kuyt benayoun babel

ngog

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