ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:02 pm wrote:red till i die!! » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:21 pm wrote:ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Tue Jun 12, 2018 6:53 pm wrote:There's clearly something up though Red when the lad has to sit out training twice a week when he's only 24. Over on RAWK someone was saying something about Fekir having some sort of issue where he is constantly in pain with his knee, apparently he has had it for years and has learned to live with it but it's not exactly ideal.
Honestly Yakka I have read so much about this transfer and from loads of Journos supposedly ITK and I have not seen any mention he gets a day off that was increased to two or that he is constantly living in pain.
Even if he does get a day off once a week because he has a tailored training regime its nothing new and certainly nothing to be concerned about because we do the same thing. Brendan was doing it and so does Jurgen. Some of our players train outside of the main teams session on occasion due to returning from injury or susceptible to one. All clubs do it to protect their assets and keep them on the field for as long as possible because it makes total sense. Its a part of management nowadays.
If the club had genuinely got those concerns and walked away then fine I would have no qualms but they didn't
They tried to use it as a stick to beat the price down which went against them. I don't know why this is so hard for our fans to believe especially as we are notorious for it.
As I said in another post that any player could be a game away from never kicking a ball again regardless of age or situation but again that is why the club take out insurance policies on them. The only thing that we stand to lose in signing Fekir is handing over more money than we want to.
Yeah but it was physically fragile players like Sturridge who Rodgers used to wrap in cotton wool though mate. Tailored training regimes are not a good sign, especially at 24.
I give the club a pass on this one, the deal looked done until the medical, if he would have passed the medical with flying colours I don't think the club would have tried to renegotiate anything I think they would have happily paid up, we had just signed Fabinho and the word was that Jurgen wanted to get Fekir over the line before the WC too.
I don't think we went into that deal looking to lowball them, I think we went into that deal looking to get it done as quickly as possible, it was the medical that changed everything not a premeditated lowballing strategy.
For what it's worth I reckon this lad would be such a good fit for us that he'd be worth taking a gamble on but it's not my £50m quid so I guess thats easy for me to say.
Its sports science Yakka and it has been apart of the game for at least 20 or more years. Every player is different and what works for one might not work for another so they tailor the training to suit each individual. All players are hooked up to vests which overtime paints a picture of the person wearing it. The recovery periods needed by players in between games differs from one to the other so for example Henderson can cope with sprints 3 days after but it might take Firmino an extra day so he sits out. Its all science and now with technology it allows them to micro manage every player in every detail. If a player has an injury or is recovering from one then its going to be adjusted again to suit his recovery or to prevent it happening again. Every club does it.
Klopp wants his targets in before pre-season every year so this year is no different and I think the deal to get him in before the W.C was more on the part of Deschamps who won't allow any of his players to be distracted during the W.C.
In the end though we still wanted the player if we could alter the fee which points to money ahead of actual concerns about the players longevity. If we had genuine concerns about him we would have walked away and not tried to get it lowered as what difference is a few mil less going to make if he ends up on the scrapheap. It wasn't like they were going to go from 53 mil down to 20 just because we looked for a second opinion.
Whether we entered those discussions or not with the intent of lowballing is anyone's guess, but looking at the messing we have done over the last few years you could forgive anyone who thought that we did.
Your right he would be a great fit. If he improves the team then his fee won't matter just like Virgils doesn't. Klopp wants him and that should be enough to get it done.