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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:08 pm
by Gerrard30391
stmichael wrote:he certainly addressed all the areas that needed addressing, can't fault him on that.

despite this, i STILL think we're :censored: at right back, dubious at left back, very, very poor on the right of midfield, have a dilemna of robbie keane, whose signing creates more questions than answers, and wasted the best part of 3 months trying to sign gareth barry, leaving us with a disgruntled and out of form alonso.

Step up Ryan Babel.

He is a great prospect although some of you think otherwise and i firmly belive he can become one of the best wingers in the league. Put him on the right of midfield and let him torment left backs. After all, we've got nobody else so give the lad a chance while he's still young. I would rather see him playing just behind Torres but that's a whole topic in itself.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:32 pm
by Aussie Style
1- Nasri- 12 mil
2- VDV- 8 mil
3- SWP- 8 mil

Bentley/Quaresma
Whilest Ngog looks not bad, I don't know F all about Flora, Riera is no VDV or SWP and he cost the same as them did he not?
Keane will come good but considering he cost 8 mil more then Nasri, I know who will be around for longer and Nasri has looked the goods straight up even though he wasnt EPL proven, and Keano, whos a EPL veteran has failed to impress so far..

Pretty disappointing transfer considering theres been some quality players move clubs but hey Rafa knows best apparently..

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 1:04 pm
by mkingdom
Quaresma (£9m) and SWP (£9m).  Instead of Keane

Kept Crouch (£+11m) who would enjoy having two wingers rather than two forwards out wide.

Owen (£5m at most).

Voronin out.

These could all have been done with the money spent.....then

Micah Richards (£20m) if the money was available of course

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 7:30 pm
by LFC2007
It remains to be seen whether this was actually a bad transfer window...

However, I would've liked to have seen the likes S@int mentioned - Van der Vaart, Wright-Phillips, Owen even.

I'm not sure how feasible they would've been though.

We would've been competing with Real Madrid for VDV, and with Man City for SWP. They both have more flexible wage budgets compared to us, as well as having more flexible transfer budgets.

I also reckon it's open to debate whether Chelsea would have demanded more from us, or whether they would've refused to negotiate, and whether SWP would've preferred to have joined us anyway! The same applies to VDV.

I'd have taken Owen any day for £3m or there abouts.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 10:12 pm
by Sabre
We would've been competing with Real Madrid for VDV, and with Man City for SWP. They both have more flexible wage budgets compared to us, as well as having more flexible transfer budgets.


Plus a "B" accounting that allows players to avoid taxes with "B" salaries. It's difficult to compete with them with their dirty tricks.

I agree that it remains to be seen how good it has been. And it will be crucial for the future of Rafa. I think that the "final straw" for many, the bit that has triggered a lot of annoyment is that there's somehow a feeling that the transfer windows has been dissapointing. Some seem to blame the yanks, but there are not few fans who think we could do better with the same money. But evaluations should be left for the end of the season.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 3:38 am
by Trewyn
Keane is ok. His worth will be proved now that Torres is injured. Though I think Crouch would have been just as useful in these times of injury.

Quaresma, Silva, Lahm and Daniel Alves. Many worry about Quaresma's discipline and dedication but I have full confidence in Rafa squeezing the best out of him and taming him.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 10:50 am
by maypaxvobiscum
rafa will also squeeze the flair and creativity out of him

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 1:16 pm
by ruskiy playmaker
maypaxvobiscum wrote:rafa will also squeeze the flair and creativity out of him

Yeah, like he did with Torres.  :no

PostPosted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:19 pm
by Toffeehater
mkingdom wrote:Quaresma (£9m) and SWP (£9m).  Instead of Keane

Kept Crouch (£+11m) who would enjoy having two wingers rather than two forwards out wide.

Owen (£5m at most).

Voronin out.

These could all have been done with the money spent.....then

Micah Richards (£20m) if the money was available of course

Quaresma was signed for 15 million by inter milan

1) Van der vart - 8 million
2) Shaun wright phillips - 8 million
3) Owen - 3 million

Players Kept
1) Riise  :)

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:06 am
by Ben1988
micah richards 20million is a joke shout..... hed be 25milion minimum and thats b4 the saudis came in on horse back with caskets full of gold.... dont know why we are even talkin about this.... its dead and burried, lets be positive back rafa and see what he can do.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:03 am
by kawaton
Ricardo Quaresma went to Inter for 15m PLUS Pele, who was valued at 4m with 4m of potential add ons

Thats a total cost of 23m

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 12:47 pm
by Toffeehater
We could have offered arbeloa who's worth about 6 million and payed that 15 million for quaresma deal done :D

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:48 pm
by mkingdom
Toffeehater wrote:
mkingdom wrote:Quaresma (£9m) and SWP (£9m).  Instead of Keane

Kept Crouch (£+11m) who would enjoy having two wingers rather than two forwards out wide.

Owen (£5m at most).

Voronin out.

These could all have been done with the money spent.....then

Micah Richards (£20m) if the money was available of course

Quaresma was signed for 15 million by inter milan

1) Van der vart - 8 million
2) Shaun wright phillips - 8 million
3) Owen - 3 million

Players Kept
1) Riise  :)

My mistake then......supposedly we had £18m knocking about to buy Barry...so perhaps we could have spent that on Quaresma instead  :devil:

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:33 pm
by ruskiy playmaker
^ We did want Quaresma and we made contact with him, but he did not want to come here because he didn't like the role that Rafa was going to give him.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:10 pm
by Toffeehater
How do you know that and what role was rafa going to give him , left back?