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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:11 pm
by Fo Dne
GYBS wrote:Is agger a work horse ? what about torres ? gerrard ? xabi ? pepe ? yossi ? reira ?

Kuyt is pretty much the main and one and only work horse .

Absoloute rubbish. Don't sit there and say Gerrard, Alonso, Torres and Bennayoun aren't work horses just because they have other strengths (Bennayoun maybe not :D ).

Gerrard and Alonso work far harder than Kuyt ever will but they have the quality aswell. Gerrard covers every blade of grass just about every week and Alonso isn't far behind either. Bennayoun, although not very good on occassions certainly isn't a lazy player either and neither is Torres.

Infact, nearly every player in the Liverpool squad has a good work rate through out a game and more than acceptable for their position. Its one of the reasons we're so hard to break down. The laziest players in the starting eleven are probably Riera and Agger and Aurelio and I wouldn't describe any of those players as even a bit lazy.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:14 pm
by GYBS
yes but they arent described as work horses thou are they which was my point . yes they are work hard etc etc but a pure work horse ? and are you being positive about something  :upside:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:18 pm
by Fo Dne
GYBS wrote:yes but they arent described as work horses thou are they which was my point . yes they are work hard etc etc but a pure work horse ? and are you being positive about something  :upside:

Dirk Kuyt is only desribed as a work horse because he has no other strengths. FACT!

Alonso and Gerrard cover as much it not more ground and win more tackles and headers than Kuyt ever will.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:21 pm
by GYBS
Is it FACT ? is it not just your opinion - that doesnt make it FACT , FACTS are things like goals scored ,assists tackles etc , trophies won international caps etc they are FACTS , just cause someone has an opinion doesnt make his opinion FACT. so lets not go into the whole Kuyt thing again as he has proved himself this season and how important he has been for us and pretty much everyone can see that bar a few who just dont like him no matter what he does - the same with Rafa .

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:22 pm
by Fo Dne
GYBS wrote:Is it FACT ? is it not just your opinion - that doesnt make it FACT , FACTS are things like goals scored ,assists tackles etc , trophies won international caps etc they are FACTS , just cause someone has an opinion doesnt make his opinion FACT. so lets not go into the whole Kuyt thing again as he has proved himself this season and how important he has been for us and pretty much everyone can see that bar a few who just dont like him no matter what he does - the same with Rafa .

Whats Kuyt good at?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:24 pm
by GYBS
Scoring goals and creating chances , keeping hold of the ball , retaining possesion, adaptability,

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 3:26 pm
by GYBS
but thats just my opinion the facts are the goals he has scored this season is only second in number to gerrard - anyway lets stick with the thread .

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:14 pm
by Fo Dne
GYBS wrote:Scoring goals and creating chances , keeping hold of the ball , retaining possesion, adaptability,

???

I said Dirk Kuyt, not Steven Gerrard.

:laugh:

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:51 pm
by Toffeehater
Fo Dne wrote:
GYBS wrote:Is it FACT ? is it not just your opinion - that doesnt make it FACT , FACTS are things like goals scored ,assists tackles etc , trophies won international caps etc they are FACTS , just cause someone has an opinion doesnt make his opinion FACT. so lets not go into the whole Kuyt thing again as he has proved himself this season and how important he has been for us and pretty much everyone can see that bar a few who just dont like him no matter what he does - the same with Rafa .

Whats Kuyt good at?

7 goals this season and a couple assists, 5 of those goals playing as a right midfielder not in his natural postion , seems pretty good to me for a player who got only 11 last season . Kuyt deserves more credit than he gets from some on here .

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:58 pm
by tubby
The problem is when he scores against Arsenal or Inter in the CL people wont moan but as soon as we draw and he misses some chances people moan.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 8:59 pm
by Toffeehater
Exactly , kuyt is always the scapegoat whenever the results don't go our way . Last season he was immense in both games against arsenal in the champions league , inter as well .

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:37 pm
by tubby
And look how more influential he has been this season both in Europe and domestic. If it wasnt for the only goal scored from him we would be discussing post match UEFA cup tonight rather that who we can draw in the last 16 of the CL tomorrow.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:39 pm
by redhayesy
Toffeehater wrote:
Fo Dne wrote:
GYBS wrote:Is it FACT ? is it not just your opinion - that doesnt make it FACT , FACTS are things like goals scored ,assists tackles etc , trophies won international caps etc they are FACTS , just cause someone has an opinion doesnt make his opinion FACT. so lets not go into the whole Kuyt thing again as he has proved himself this season and how important he has been for us and pretty much everyone can see that bar a few who just dont like him no matter what he does - the same with Rafa .

Whats Kuyt good at?

7 goals this season and a couple assists, 5 of those goals playing as a right midfielder not in his natural postion , seems pretty good to me for a player who got only 11 last season . Kuyt deserves more credit than he gets from some on here .

FACT!! good post mate  :D

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:47 pm
by tubby
This place is full of fecking hypocrites. And I am one of them. :D

PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:48 pm
by XaviHernandez
Michael Owen was, is and will be a legend.