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How common is corruption in football
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Wed Sep 22, 2004 8:26 pmby Storm
How much corruption do people think there is in football. There just seems so many people who have been accussed and found guilty it seems its rife and it seems money maybe more important than the actual game on the park.
Almost like the game has become a convenient vehicle for others to scam money away which is after all the fans money of course.
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Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:58 pmby Redrider
More common than you think, when you look at some of the transfers that take place. It didn't take long for Magnier to dish the dirt on the Manc' Ferguson and his phoney Son.
I sometimes wonder at what goes on in our club, some of the rubbish we have signed for big money and then dropped or loaned out. Jeez' we have made some bad buy's recently. 
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Thu Sep 23, 2004 1:35 pmby Storm
Of course if you were getting a bung for each transfer it may pay for you to move players on more often.
As for how rife you only have to go no further than Terry Venables, the late BC, George Graham and others.
If it costs £25 to get in the game then how much money is being scammed off so its not just the agents but it seems all those involved.
The FA and the Players Association are just turning a blind eye while the fans pay out big time.
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Thu Sep 23, 2004 1:43 pmby greenred
According to Rick Parry, Brian Clough was certainly fond of the odd bung.Strange time to mention it though considering they`re burying the bloke tomorrow.
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Thu Sep 23, 2004 2:05 pmby woof woof !
Often wonder how much Houllier made out of his transfer deals , I mean just look at what we got for the money spent . 
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Thu Sep 23, 2004 4:01 pmby Redrider
greenred wrote:According to Rick Parry, Brian Clough was certainly fond of the odd bung.Strange time to mention it though considering they`re burying the bloke tomorrow.
Perhaps we should be burying Rick Parry. Metaphorically Speaking, of course. 
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Thu Sep 23, 2004 6:01 pmby Storm
My understanding is that the bung is all part of the culture and there is a footballers freemasonary that closes up when anyone challenges the establishment.
When George Graham got caught by Arsenal the dirctors where shocked by how much he had bung which I believe was a £200k some ten years back. If it had been less then they would have forgotten about it.
It seems rife in the English league and Europe after El Presidenti of Eueffa, Seb Blatter (spellings?) has at least a couple of fraud cases hanging over him.
The Blair government wanted to introduce regulations and controls because of the extent of the corruption but didn't want the fight with the FA and clubs.
You also have Harry Rednapp saying in his autobiography that you have to take what you can while you can so we can add him to the list.
The problem seems to be that its almost been accepted and the stakes have got higher with Sky but at the end of the day its the fans that pay for it all.
It sickens me to think that the "beautiful game" is being ruined by managers etc to line their own pockets.
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Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:27 pmby Redrider
Wow, somehow it is hard to think that Houllier was on the take. Rick Parry looks a bit of a shady cove though.
Maybe, the Managers are now being cut out of the deals by these Executive types who now taking the slice. This is perhaps why we have these unexplained mid season resignations from some traditional Managers when they realise they are being by-passed in the bung game.
Perhaps also this is why Kenyon left the Manc's because Fergie wouldn't let adopt this role and let him in on the Manc bungs ? 
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Thu Sep 23, 2004 7:32 pmby stmichael
woof woof ! wrote:Often wonder how much Houllier made out of his transfer deals , I mean just look at what we got for the money spent .
don't even go there
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Thu Sep 23, 2004 8:56 pmby Storm
Redrider
Seems its the accepted practice to take bungs and wasn't there a recent case with Fergie's son who act as agents.
Perhaps Sven is going to Real just to get a wadge of bungs which will make him more than a salary.
My view is that all managers are on the take until proven otherwise, but not sure how they do that!
Just makes yer wonder about Houlier, I wonder if it was in Euros but they dont take them in the club bar!
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Thu Sep 23, 2004 10:01 pmby 80-1095971784
well there must be lots of it happening behind the scnes even now, it cant be too hard to keep it quiet, it is more common than arsenal winning!
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Thu Sep 23, 2004 11:16 pmby supersub
another dom impersonation..paul ******
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Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:29 amby Dom1
stop calling me a gobsh*te SS, i will get u done for verbal abuse or something 
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Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:25 amby woof woof !
woof woof ! wrote:Often wonder how much Houllier made out of his transfer deals , I mean just look at what we got for the money spent .
I should add this is only a thought NOT an accusation . 
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Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:40 amby Storm
It seems Terry Venables is one of the worst culprits (alllegedly) but for some reason just goes from strength to strength.
He did it at Portsmouth and Crystal Palace. His soujourn at CP was encouraged by a Chairman Goldberg who didn't know any better and the experience cost him over £20m.
The question is how football can allow him to stay in the game, its all a bit too cozy for me and proves that the authorites just turn a blind eye to whats going on.