Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:20 pmWe will get Young as well im sure
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:20 pmPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:21 pmif someone said to me a few days back that torres would join chelsea for near 50 million and we would sign suarez and carroll for 35 million i would have bet them every bit of money i have that wouldnt happen
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Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:26 pmKukilon wrote:Simply awesome? I'm ashamed to support this club if thats the case. 35million is wasting 20 million to much. I'd rather see us wait until the summer.
Well...thank god the owners are more ambitious than you.
Yeah...we need better wingers...but getting a big strong/imposing striker (if we do get him) is a start. The owners are improving this team in stages when the right players are available, and thats a good thing.
When Comolli noted that our wing players lacked pace, It is more than likely we will end up getting better wingers in the summer. We are improving this team in stages.
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:28 pmbavlondon wrote:We will get Young as well im sure
Gerard Houllier confirms that Ashley Young is ''not for sale''. So Liverpool look like missing out on that one.
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:30 pmMove this post to the right thread -
As Paul Tomkins points out - Ultimately, players are only worth what the selling club value them at and the buying club are prepared to pay. Resale value a factor, too.
Hence why Newcastle will only sell for £35m. They want to keep their prized asset unless they are offered a deal they could not reasonably turn down.
And we bid £35m because, a) we can identify talent b) he is young enough to retain his value, especially so when you consider his potential growth on the European scene.
Consider, David Villa was transferred for £35m, at 28, yet in two years he will be 30 and his resale value will of halved.
Also bear in mind, if Carroll creates a partnership with Suarez and creates loads of goals for him. We will see Suarez's value rocket. The investment in Carroll may well be to benefit the team as a whole rather than investment in an individual.
As Paul Tomkins points out - Ultimately, players are only worth what the selling club value them at and the buying club are prepared to pay. Resale value a factor, too.
Hence why Newcastle will only sell for £35m. They want to keep their prized asset unless they are offered a deal they could not reasonably turn down.
And we bid £35m because, a) we can identify talent b) he is young enough to retain his value, especially so when you consider his potential growth on the European scene.
Consider, David Villa was transferred for £35m, at 28, yet in two years he will be 30 and his resale value will of halved.
Also bear in mind, if Carroll creates a partnership with Suarez and creates loads of goals for him. We will see Suarez's value rocket. The investment in Carroll may well be to benefit the team as a whole rather than investment in an individual.
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:31 pmListen if we waste money now we won't be able to use it in the summer. We still won't be able to reach CL so it's not like its helping us out with silly buys like this. We could have bought Elmander for 4-6 million instead.
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:32 pmalthough overpriced if it does happen
you lose torres for 50 million, a player who seems to have peaked and now has lost a yard of pace
and for only 10 million more you sign suarez and carroll, two players who are already very good, hungry to be world beaters and have in no way peaked
you lose torres for 50 million, a player who seems to have peaked and now has lost a yard of pace
and for only 10 million more you sign suarez and carroll, two players who are already very good, hungry to be world beaters and have in no way peaked
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:34 pmStill find it hillarious that you put Suarez and Carrol in the same bracket as Torres. This is just silly.
I really hate Torres for making us do this.
I really hate Torres for making us do this.
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:38 pmKukilon wrote:Listen if we waste money now we won't be able to use it in the summer. We still won't be able to reach CL so it's not like its helping us out with silly buys like this. We could have bought Elmander for 4-6 million instead.
You along with others on here seem to forget we no longer have the sell to buy policy for transfer that H&G imposed on us.
We don't service debt any more. The money spent here is all funded by the Torres sale. John Henry made it clear than any profits would be made available to the club for reinvestment.
Guess what? April this year will be another financial year! We will make a profit, probably circa £20/£25m, we will have at least that in the next transfer window.
This is without considering other player sales.
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:40 pmI am pumped over this and Suarez, two quality players to replace a sulky Torres that was never at his best for us for over 2 years. Huge statement of intent anyone that isn't happy with this should have their head checked, Carroll is quality and will theoretically work with Suarez perfectly. A very good target man that can hold the ball up very well.
pumped over this and Suarez, two quality players to replace a sulky Torres that was never at his best for us for over 2 years. Huge statement of intent anyone that isn't happy with this should have their head checked, Carroll is quality and will theoretically work with Suarez perfectly. A very good target man that can hold the ball up very well.Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:40 pmmaypaxvobiscum wrote:bavlondon wrote:We will get Young as well im sure
Gerard Houllier confirms that Ashley Young is ''not for sale''. So Liverpool look like missing out on that one.
kenny also said that bought torres.
it doesnt mean anythin anymore. its wat the player wants these days
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:40 pmKukilon wrote:Still find it hillarious that you put Suarez and Carrol in the same bracket as Torres. This is just silly.
I really hate Torres for making us do this.
we should be blaming that russian mob boss
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:40 pmKukilon wrote:Still find it hillarious that you put Suarez and Carrol in the same bracket as Torres. This is just silly.
I really hate Torres for making us do this.
carroll in a poor team has scored more prem goals than torres this season, and torres has started more
torres is defo not the player he was 2 seasons ago, has been poor for spain too
defo lost a few yards of pace that made him extra special
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:42 pmHe's on his way to the north west now
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:45 pmbavlondon wrote:He's on his way to the north west now
source?