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The_Rock » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:17 pm wrote:

7_Kewell » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:06 pm wrote:

The_Rock » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:00 pm wrote:Looked a lot like balotelli today. And that's the problem. We buy a striker and don't play to his strengths.

For 3 f**king seasons we don't put in crosses into the box. Now we buy Benteke and suddenly we ask our players to cross the ball.  And can you blame them when they cross the ball like a bunch of schoolboys ?

And when Benteke wins the ball in the air...who is there at the end of it ? no-one. Very similar whenever balotelli dropped deep to lay-off the ball to no-one (as none of our players are running through at goal).

Fella, you're losing the plot if you're comparing Beteke with Mario. The latter never moved enough or got into goal scoring positions. That's why he was dropped. He was lazy.

Benteke tracks back, gets into the box and works for the team. Ok, he's not getting crosses, but he's no Andy Carroll and can score with his feet as well as his head.

I am just iterating the point that we have to setup the team to play to our striker's strength.  Benteke looked as powerless as Balo today. He looked as everybit as heavy footed as Balo did last season.

maguskwt » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:20 pm wrote:totally irrelevant comparison... far from similar situations...

maguskwt » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:20 pm wrote:totally irrelevant comparison... far from similar situations...

red till i die!! » Sat Aug 29, 2015 6:47 pm wrote:It puzzles me when I see us taking short corners and free kicks when we should be aiming them at this lads mush. He did alright today but just lacking that touch to finish or create the space to.

maguskwt » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:20 pm wrote:totally irrelevant comparison... far from similar situations...

RED BEERGOGGLES » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:32 pm wrote:

maguskwt » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:20 pm wrote:totally irrelevant comparison... far from similar situations...

Please elucidate,how exactly are they not comparable ? As both were left isolated by playing as a lone striker ,and respectively both had little or no service from the wings ,both strikers have a proclivity to be more effective when the ball is played into their feet ,both strikers need players behind them who will exploit those pockets of space, and finally, but the most important they both played under a manager who hasn't the slightest igloo how to utilise their abilities. 

The only conceivable difference is one has the backing of the manager the other clearly didn't.

maguskwt » Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:54 am wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:32 pm wrote:

maguskwt » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:20 pm wrote:totally irrelevant comparison... far from similar situations...

Please elucidate,how exactly are they not comparable ? As both were left isolated by playing as a lone striker ,and respectively both had little or no service from the wings ,both strikers have a proclivity to be more effective when the ball is played into their feet ,both strikers need players behind them who will exploit those pockets of space, and finally, but the most important they both played under a manager who hasn't the slightest igloo how to utilise their abilities. 

The only conceivable difference is one has the backing of the manager the other clearly didn't.

Because one has an IQ of a 10 year old, can't take instructions, selfish, has zero footballing IQ and the other one so far has been hardworking, contributes to the build up play, alraedy scored in his home debut, clearly has football intelligence. Balotelli's failure cannot be attributed to the manager just because it fits your agenda.

maguskwt » Sun Aug 30, 2015 5:54 am wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:32 pm wrote:

maguskwt » Sat Aug 29, 2015 4:20 pm wrote:totally irrelevant comparison... far from similar situations...

Please elucidate,how exactly are they not comparable ? As both were left isolated by playing as a lone striker ,and respectively both had little or no service from the wings ,both strikers have a proclivity to be more effective when the ball is played into their feet ,both strikers need players behind them who will exploit those pockets of space, and finally, but the most important they both played under a manager who hasn't the slightest igloo how to utilise their abilities. 

The only conceivable difference is one has the backing of the manager the other clearly didn't.

Because one has an IQ of a 10 year old, can't take instructions, selfish, has zero footballing IQ and the other one so far has been hardworking, contributes to the build up play, alraedy scored in his home debut, clearly has football intelligence. Balotelli's failure cannot be attributed to the manager just because it fits your agenda.

RED BEERGOGGLES » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:44 am wrote:
I think you've clearly chosen the media agenda and our hapless managers that was driven with such zeal .I think in his first games for Liverpool he was hardworking and certainly contributed to the build up play ,as for not being able to follow instructions ,I'm pretty sure when the manager called him to the sidelines for instructions against Ludogrets he then went and  scored our only goal    I'm also pretty sure he received the backing of the Kop because of  some hardworking performances ,notably against the Bitterz and away at Spudz, and against the rent boys .Which kind of pisses profusely over your assumptions   :D

maguskwt » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:34 am wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:44 am wrote:
I think you've clearly chosen the media agenda and our hapless managers that was driven with such zeal .I think in his first games for Liverpool he was hardworking and certainly contributed to the build up play ,as for not being able to follow instructions ,I'm pretty sure when the manager called him to the sidelines for instructions against Ludogrets he then went and  scored our only goal    I'm also pretty sure he received the backing of the Kop because of  some hardworking performances ,notably against the Bitterz and away at Spudz, and against the rent boys .Which kind of pisses profusely over your assumptions   :D

Wow... such a wonderful player who works hard, world class talent, who follows instructions and scores plenty of goals. Must be a keeper for ANY manager then... oh wait what?... Mourinho, Mancini, Allegri and Rodgers all have problems with him??? can't be true! Wait what?? Mancini was also one of the managers who coached him as a youngster and STILL had problems with him??? CAN'T BE TRUE!!!

Highlighting the exceptions of his performance and not the norm as examples doesn't make him a good player. So now who's assumptions are profusely *****?

maguskwt » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:34 am wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:44 am wrote:
I think you've clearly chosen the media agenda and our hapless managers that was driven with such zeal .I think in his first games for Liverpool he was hardworking and certainly contributed to the build up play ,as for not being able to follow instructions ,I'm pretty sure when the manager called him to the sidelines for instructions against Ludogrets he then went and  scored our only goal    I'm also pretty sure he received the backing of the Kop because of  some hardworking performances ,notably against the Bitterz and away at Spudz, and against the rent boys .Which kind of pisses profusely over your assumptions   :D

Wow... such a wonderful player who works hard, world class talent, who follows instructions and scores plenty of goals. Must be a keeper for ANY manager then... oh wait what?... Mourinho, Mancini, Allegri and Rodgers all have problems with him??? can't be true! Wait what?? Mancini was also one of the managers who coached him as a youngster and STILL had problems with him??? CAN'T BE TRUE!!!

Highlighting the exceptions of his performance and not the norm as examples doesn't make him a good player. So now who's assumptions are profusely *****?

RED BEERGOGGLES » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:24 pm wrote:

maguskwt » Sun Aug 30, 2015 11:34 am wrote:

RED BEERGOGGLES » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:44 am wrote:
I think you've clearly chosen the media agenda and our hapless managers that was driven with such zeal .I think in his first games for Liverpool he was hardworking and certainly contributed to the build up play ,as for not being able to follow instructions ,I'm pretty sure when the manager called him to the sidelines for instructions against Ludogrets he then went and  scored our only goal    I'm also pretty sure he received the backing of the Kop because of  some hardworking performances ,notably against the Bitterz and away at Spudz, and against the rent boys .Which kind of pisses profusely over your assumptions   :D

Wow... such a wonderful player who works hard, world class talent, who follows instructions and scores plenty of goals. Must be a keeper for ANY manager then... oh wait what?... Mourinho, Mancini, Allegri and Rodgers all have problems with him??? can't be true! Wait what?? Mancini was also one of the managers who coached him as a youngster and STILL had problems with him??? CAN'T BE TRUE!!!

Highlighting the exceptions of his performance and not the norm as examples doesn't make him a good player. So now who's assumptions are profusely *****?

All the managers you mentioned may have had disciplinary problems with him ,but your argument wasn't  about that ,supposedly it was about his inability to interpret instructions ,or how he lacks any football brain ,and the only manager that he never scored goals for is the current blurt we have in charge ....So spin that you fucking root .