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Very disappointed with Lovren so far. Look's nowhere near a £20m defender at the moment. Always seem to get caught in very poor positions and decision making and reading of the game is all over the place. Hope he improves, if not, we have seriously had our pants pulled down with this one

Doeboy » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:02 pm wrote:Very disappointed with Lovren so far. Look's nowhere near a £20m defender at the moment. Always seem to get caught in very poor positions and decision making and reading of the game is all over the place. Hope he improves, if not, we have seriously had our pants pulled down with this one

Nicely put mate, 'especially' after today's performance, the guy looks totally out of his depth

Can't agree with the stick he's getting. He's a good defender who defends very differently to what we've seen before. If we had a better defence around him he'd be more than good enough. Skrtel hangs everyone out to dry and the full backs are woeful. Not even mentioning the keeper. The midfield doesn't exactly protect the defence in any way either but thats another story.

There's probably a decent defender in him somewhere but he is just way too impetuous ATM, he continually dives into challenges that he can't win which more often than not leaves him stranded on the wrong side of players and out of position. He nearly cost us a goal again today when he was last man by diving in at Obertan out wide and getting nowhere near the ball or the player.
He seems to have no concept at all of what it means to be the last line of defence, instead of trying to buy time and jockeying a player until reinforcements arrive he just goes into kamikaze mode and dives right in.
If he starts to use his loaf a bit by picking and choosing when to go for the ball and staying on his feet a bit more he may turn into a decent defender but at the moment my hearts in my mouth every time I see him charging head down towards the ball. I can't say he's been a big disappointment though because I wasn't expecting much.

Doeboy » Sat Nov 01, 2014 9:02 pm wrote:Very disappointed with Lovren so far. Look's nowhere near a £20m defender at the moment. Always seem to get caught in very poor positions and decision making and reading of the game is all over the place. Hope he improves, if not, we have seriously had our pants pulled down with this one

Have to agree.

Stu the Red » Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:21 pm wrote:Can't agree with the stick he's getting. He's a good defender who defends very differently to what we've seen before. If we had a better defence around him he'd be more than good enough. Skrtel hangs everyone out to dry and the full backs are woeful. Not even mentioning the keeper. The midfield doesn't exactly protect the defence in any way either but thats another story.

Stu i'm the last person to defend Skerel and I've been writing for ever on our DM weakness but  their is no way around it, Lovern pathetic positioning and  discipline ,he misjudges his location compared to the ball and to the player he is covering ,he gets out of place out of position so many times it's just pathetic. He doesn't look good at the moment.

Stu his positioning is awful. And when he makes a tackle he fks up on numerous occasions. Sorry mate just cannot share yours enthusiasm for this lad. He certainly isn't Sami or even Henchoz. His organisational skills don't look too good either. Easy to blame the other defenders but he has done very little to suggest that is  the real reason for his very average performances.

Surely if a coach sits down with him and talks him through replays of the game pointing out where he was caught out of position this could be rectified in double quick time. A good player + good coaching = 30++ million.

Reg » Mon Nov 03, 2014 4:42 am wrote:Surely if a coach sits down with him and talks him through replays of the game pointing out where he was caught out of position this could be rectified in double quick time. A good player + good coaching = 30++ million.

Very true. I can't help but feel it's the system and tactics that are having a knock-on effect throughout the team. This lad was pretty good for Southampton. We must have scouted him first, hopefully in depth. I don't think Skrtel is all that bad either. But there seems to be no cohesion.
Wish we'd kept Agger. His heart was truly in the job.

Reg » Mon Nov 03, 2014 5:42 am wrote:Surely if a coach sits down with him and talks him through replays of the game pointing out where he was caught out of position this could be rectified in double quick time. A good player + good coaching = 30++ million.

you would like to think thats the way it works anyway 
i'd compare this to glen johnson in he has been so bad up and down that line for 2 years now and he has never sat him down and coached him. he continues to do the same brain dead stuff week in week out and retains a starting place every time.
the whole defense get's no coaching at all from rodgers because they couldnt be that bad and littered with the same mistakes week in week out if they did.

RED BEERGOGGLES » Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:05 pm wrote:http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-exclusive-jamie-carragher-8100898

Wow!! Free Underlay 

i know dossena was a flop but italy has the best defenders full stop and as pure defending has gone out of fashion in the prem why not go there desciglio abate matteo darmian barzaghli bonnucci chiellieni theres loads of great defenders over there

I'd say Germany have the best defenders

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