Liverpool FC Forum

Kopite-Jud » Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:32 pm wrote:For me mate it was the Chelsea and Palace game.
Who's idea was it to give Suarez a new deal in December, only to leave in July ?

Stu the Red » Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:04 pm wrote:Reg, I certainly was not bum kissing mate. By rule of thumb I always give managers till the start of their third season. Last season my first doubt came at the Villa at home match, my second came against Chelsea. That, for me was a massive mistake, the sale of Suarez was heartbreaking and also in part down to the manager. Anyone who knows how the game works knows that, all this you can't keep an unhappy player talk is rubbish. Rodgers wanted to "be fair to Luis and his family" and gave in to pressure from above to release him. Massive error…

Now after those mistakes I again could have gotten over that had he corrected things in the market. We now have ideal players to build a strong counter attacking side and we had a massive budget. We could have done so much better with the money spent it's scary. Everyone keeps telling me the transfer committee share blame for transfers but that's bollox mate, it's a poor excuse the Happy clappy use and state as a fact. The only fact is the Buck stops with manager. If not he should be strong enough to make it known, so either way it's his fault. Had that been me finishing second I would have been knocking on Mr owners door demanding more control to improve us based on that.

I'm not even going to go into the spending of the biggest transfer budget we ever had being spent the way it was.

Tactically this season too we are all over the shop. You can't play an effective press with the players we have up top, not even going to go into this diamond bollox and playing Sterling out of position.

His stance on Gerrard is also ridiculous. A thirty four year old past it midfield player who plays every minute of every match and is still on stupid money, look at Mourinhos treatment of Cole and lampard, used sparingly and then let go, no messing about like Rodgers has. Fact is Steven was thirty one when our "manager" took over, why wasn't he thinking about replacing them? Especially as his game was pace and power based…

Rodgers has a lot to answer for and he's spent two hundred million already, for me he shouldn't get another penny unless he raises it, his handling of Skrtel, Johnson and Mig no let has also been woeful.

RED BEERGOGGLES » Tue Nov 04, 2014 6:40 pm wrote:
Stu ,The twat  carried out the one act that would force the club to sell him ,and he done it in front of a world wide audience ! We will probably never know the level of collusion between himself and Barcelona that brought about his desired move,but the man made his position at Liverpool untenable ,and he didn't bat an eyelid
at the affect it would have on reds fans. ....Even his new Bessie Gerrard has hinted at such in his interviews ,the whole sorry saga was contrived.   

The owners had made their minds up before the world and his fucking wife heard Chellini squeal .

RED BEERGOGGLES » Tue Nov 04, 2014 5:40 pm wrote:

Stu the Red » Tue Nov 04, 2014 3:04 pm wrote:Reg, I certainly was not bum kissing mate. By rule of thumb I always give managers till the start of their third season. Last season my first doubt came at the Villa at home match, my second came against Chelsea. That, for me was a massive mistake, the sale of Suarez was heartbreaking and also in part down to the manager. Anyone who knows how the game works knows that, all this you can't keep an unhappy player talk is rubbish. Rodgers wanted to "be fair to Luis and his family" and gave in to pressure from above to release him. Massive error…

Now after those mistakes I again could have gotten over that had he corrected things in the market. We now have ideal players to build a strong counter attacking side and we had a massive budget. We could have done so much better with the money spent it's scary. Everyone keeps telling me the transfer committee share blame for transfers but that's bollox mate, it's a poor excuse the Happy clappy use and state as a fact. The only fact is the Buck stops with manager. If not he should be strong enough to make it known, so either way it's his fault. Had that been me finishing second I would have been knocking on Mr owners door demanding more control to improve us based on that.

I'm not even going to go into the spending of the biggest transfer budget we ever had being spent the way it was.

Tactically this season too we are all over the shop. You can't play an effective press with the players we have up top, not even going to go into this diamond bollox and playing Sterling out of position.

His stance on Gerrard is also ridiculous. A thirty four year old past it midfield player who plays every minute of every match and is still on stupid money, look at Mourinhos treatment of Cole and lampard, used sparingly and then let go, no messing about like Rodgers has. Fact is Steven was thirty one when our "manager" took over, why wasn't he thinking about replacing them? Especially as his game was pace and power based…

Rodgers has a lot to answer for and he's spent two hundred million already, for me he shouldn't get another penny unless he raises it, his handling of Skrtel, Johnson and Mig no let has also been woeful.

Stu ,The twat  carried out the one act that would force the club to sell him ,and he done it in front of a world wide audience ! We will probably never know the level of collusion between himself and Barcelona that brought about his desired move,but the man made his position at Liverpool untenable ,and he didn't bat an eyelid
at the affect it would have on reds fans. ....Even his new Bessie Gerrard has hinted at such in his interviews ,the whole sorry saga was contrived.   

The owners had made their minds up before the world and his fucking wife heard Chellini squeal .

red till i die!! » Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:10 pm wrote:that side he fielded last night was never going to get anything from that game. i have never witnessed a liverpool manager ever do that before in a game of that magnitude, these are the games you want to be in this competition for. so what if they are better than us and cost a lot of money or the fact that they have world class players.
given the way the game shaped up and especially when he made the subs leads me to believe we actually could have got something from that game. now the pressure is on to win our last 2 and hope its enough.
we have played 4 games now and sit on a poxy 3 points that we didnt deserve so getting out of this group will be nothing short of a miracle

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:36 pm wrote:

red till i die!! » Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:10 pm wrote:that side he fielded last night was never going to get anything from that game. i have never witnessed a liverpool manager ever do that before in a game of that magnitude, these are the games you want to be in this competition for. so what if they are better than us and cost a lot of money or the fact that they have world class players.
given the way the game shaped up and especially when he made the subs leads me to believe we actually could have got something from that game. now the pressure is on to win our last 2 and hope its enough.
we have played 4 games now and sit on a poxy 3 points that we didnt deserve so getting out of this group will be nothing short of a miracle

Who are the players that should have started though? Apart from Sterling and maybe Coutinho the others don't deserve to be nailed on starters ATM. In fact I thought we lost our shape a bit when the subs came on, I thought Brendan took the wrong players off.

red till i die!! » Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:12 pm wrote:

ycsatbjywtbiastkamb » Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:36 pm wrote:

red till i die!! » Wed Nov 05, 2014 1:10 pm wrote:that side he fielded last night was never going to get anything from that game. i have never witnessed a liverpool manager ever do that before in a game of that magnitude, these are the games you want to be in this competition for. so what if they are better than us and cost a lot of money or the fact that they have world class players.
given the way the game shaped up and especially when he made the subs leads me to believe we actually could have got something from that game. now the pressure is on to win our last 2 and hope its enough.
we have played 4 games now and sit on a poxy 3 points that we didnt deserve so getting out of this group will be nothing short of a miracle

Who are the players that should have started though? Apart from Sterling and maybe Coutinho the others don't deserve to be nailed on starters ATM. In fact I thought we lost our shape a bit when the subs came on, I thought Brendan took the wrong players off.

the thing is yakka that that team was only put out to defend and frustrate, thats all they did and never looked like threatening cassilas at all. its easy to keep your shape when it involves 2 lines of players standing in front of your back line.
when we made the changes we actually got up the pitch and held a bit of possession and applied some pressure. that was non existent before the changes.
i wouldnt have started markovic or allen and would have probably played gerrard and coutinho from the off and then brought in sterling around the 60 min mark to keep a bit of pace up front.

stmichael » Fri Nov 07, 2014 11:11 am wrote:This is where he'll really earn his stripes tomorrow and we'll find out a lot about him. If the likes of Johnson and Lovren walk straight back in the side after the way Manquillo and Toure played the other night then questions need to be asked.

He also needs to set us up in a similar fashion to the other night imo. If we go out in our normal cavalier style we'll get picked off on the break again.

damjan193 » Fri Nov 07, 2014 3:50 pm wrote:I think he hinted in the interview that we might play with Toure but not sure instead of who. Doubt we'll see Lucas though.