RED BEERGOGGLES » Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:59 am wrote:Stu ,football has a habit of making fools out of the overly presumptuous ,its also far too early to write off the reds season ,based purely on conjecture and a couple of
disjointed performances ...Scouts watch players for months ,maybe even years before being able to arrive at a decision ,or to ascertain a players potential.
According to Rodgers he has run the rule over all his acquisitions and stated he was looking for players with the character and belief to be winners,I'm prepared to wait
and see if such a profound statement has any credence throughout the course of this season ,I'm prepared to wait until it bears fruit ,because as Liverpool fans waiting
is all we can do ,rather than dismiss a players ability after a short introduction to our season and accuse Rodgers of frittering money away.
As for Suarez he was arguably the best striker we have ever had ,but to point to his contribution as being the sole reason we flourished last season is affording Rodgers
scant respect for his transformation of this team ,and the football he delighted the fans with.
I agree it can do that to you. It can make us all look like right bell ends at times, but the reality is sometimes, somewhere, we've seen certain things unfold that give you experience as to what works, what doesnt and how the game works.
You seem to be suggesting I don't understand scouts watch players for a long time, they also do background checks, family checks, medical checks, family medical checks... f*ck, some clubs even do credit checks mate. I'm very very very aware of all this. It just seems like our club is to interested in all these checks and behaviours rather than signing a player for what we actually give a flying one about, that is footballing ability. Do I give a toss Suarez was a bit of a nut job? Not at all, as it was part of what made so special, its not as if he went around ending players careers or being a rapist was it? Obviously there has to be some sort of line, Marlon King types, for example, or Lee Hughes types, for me, don't deserve the time of day, let alone support. However, with Luis we weren't talking about that. That's now by the by anyway and irrelivant... (not the first time I've gone off on a tangent).
Rodgers ramblings about mentallity and all that rubbish are excuses mate. Simple as. If he wanted a winning mentality and model professional he should have signed me 3 years ago... I never give up, I keep going till the end, not scared of a battle and not affraid to go against the grain... fact is though, I'm nowhere near good enough to compete with the majority of players at that level. Not even close. Maybe the complete duffers in the league I'd have given a go to in a one off game in my younger, cancer free years... (or maybe not
) but the fact is, the players he's signed lack real quality.
I've liked Lallana for absolutely years mate, probably since they were a league one side, as I have Schneiderlin and its no suprise to me both have been either linked or transfered for big money, but the reality, Lallana is only a good player. He's not going to win you match after match after match like Luis did. He's not going to make a difference to a midfield like a Vieira or Scholes would, he's not going to improve a defensive unit like a Hyypia, Ferdinand or Cannavaro would. We needed that class of player this year and its failed to materialize. For what its worth, I think Balotelli will be right at home with Sturridge and they'll form a very good partnership. I think we'll still be strong in attack, however I think we'll score more like 70 goals this season rather than 100... and I still believe we'll concede around 50 unless a new keeper is signed.
Valdes? Is he any good? Not so sure? Can he be worse than Mig no let, I doubt it...
I looked at Liverpool's team last season and all good things have something in common. A spine, Liverpool's had an aging Gerrard and a world class Suarez. This season we don't have a spine, Gerrard is past it mate, we all know that. He still has something to offer, but should have been replaced this season. His role should have been champions league games, lesser sides at home and as an impact sub.
The spine should have been addressed this summer. Balotelli is probably the only one you could really say is part of any credible spine to a side with anything other than ambitions of finishing near the champions league places.
Players like Begovic, Schneiderlin, Tevez and a few others I can't even be bothered to mention who would have provided that spine are still at last seasons clubs. WHY? We have plenty of good and decent players. But players like Sturridge, Henderson, Lallana, Lovren, Enrique will not win you trophies, they'll contribute if you surround them with class, but we've failed, yet again to do that and we're going to reap what we sow.
And as I also asked you earlier, what did Rodgers do last year that was so special? I don't get it? Blow the league with 4 games left and the best player in the league? Rodgers is a loser mate, with him, we'll always be a selling club, who can't attract the right quality, doesn't go for the right players and flatters to deceive. You bang on about transformation, there was no transformation or style that he integrated. Great players give you that definition... which is why we played the way we did. To be fair to Luis, he could play in a long ball team and make them look good... Suarez last season was the difference in second and seventh, this season, I think we'll finish 5th, which to me is a complete fail. Going from 7th, to 5th in three years is hardly what I'd call a complete turn around.