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Re: JOE ALLEN- Official thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 10:50 pm
by only me
parchpea » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:31 pm wrote:A short tournament isnt the trenches 24/7 at Liverpool, if Allen is now a keeper then lets sign Robson Kanu on a free.

Different mentality when every game is the biggest of your life to bringing it at West Brom away on MNF in November.

Do we now give him another shot, not because of his Liverpool performances but a handfull of efforts for Wales, or cash in and reinvest the money.


Allen was boss under Klopp is boss in Wales and should stay. He is a quality player which suffered injuries and was overlooked for the likes of Hendo. A keeper.

Re: JOE ALLEN- Official thread

PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 11:07 pm
by parchpea
I would agree hes better than a poor Henderson or even a raw Can but Klopp used Allen mainly from the bench.

Im caught up in the Allen thing like everyone and would love him to succeed but to imagine weve suddenly turned an £8m player into a £20m superstar overnight when hes not been much for us in 4 years is a big leap.

Re: JOE ALLEN- Official thread

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 3:45 am
by Reg
The guys stepped since Klopp arrived so I have no probem keeping him, Hendo is a far bigger concern.

Re: JOE ALLEN- Official thread

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 8:23 am
by kazza
My opinion of him has not changed and especially not after an international where it is much less physical than the prem. He is a good tidy player that would be good for the squad and I would keep him as such. His problem is he is a little small to dominate midfield in prem matches case in point when Wanyama came on in the second half and totally owned him and will always happen if he plays against a dominant CM.

Decent player with good skills and intelligent enough to fill gaps where needed but not going to carry a team that wants to excell in the league. He will surely start in a mid table team but I would hope our aspirations are higher.

Re: JOE ALLEN- Official thread

PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 3:06 pm
by 7_Kewell
kazza » Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:23 am wrote:My opinion of him has not changed and especially not after an international where it is much less physical than the prem. He is a good tidy player that would be good for the squad and I would keep him as such. His problem is he is a little small to dominate midfield in prem matches case in point when Wanyama came on in the second half and totally owned him and will always happen if he plays against a dominant CM.

Decent player with good skills and intelligent enough to fill gaps where needed but not going to carry a team that wants to excell in the league. He will surely start in a mid table team but I would hope our aspirations are higher.

Decent squad player, not much else in his  locker though. I think he'll go as he wants first team football and we can't give him it here on a regular basis.

With a bit of luck we'll get most of our money back, given his Euro 2016 performances.

Re: JOE ALLEN- Official thread

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:56 am
by Reg
Again he'd be  great signing for Leicester along with Hendo, Benteke and Migs.

Re: JOE ALLEN- Official thread

PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 10:21 am
by ycsatbjywtbiastkamb
kazza » Sat Jul 02, 2016 7:23 am wrote:My opinion of him has not changed and especially not after an international where it is much less physical than the prem. He is a good tidy player that would be good for the squad and I would keep him as such. His problem is he is a little small to dominate midfield in prem matches case in point when Wanyama came on in the second half and totally owned him and will always happen if he plays against a dominant CM.

Decent player with good skills and intelligent enough to fill gaps where needed but not going to carry a team that wants to excell in the league. He will surely start in a mid table team but I would hope our aspirations are higher.


This post pretty much says it all.

Re: JOE ALLEN- Official thread

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:18 am
by eds
Keeping both Allen and Henderson are moot points. We need to get rid of both and hopefully this transfer window. Neither are good enough.

Feel the same way, if we don't bring in a quality CM and LB, we simply aren't going anywhere next season irrespective of how good we think Klopp is.

We have a lot to do this summer, and unloading these two to bring in funds is an absolute priority to kick things off.

There are also a number of other misfits that need to be sold; Benteke, Ballotelli, Markovic, Moreno, Luis Alberto all need to be swept out with a broom pronto tonto.

They will all raise some $$$ and go a long way in rebuilding the squad. Waiting for them to collect dust will only mean we keep paying them a useless salary and their price keeps drops.

Re: JOE ALLEN- Official thread

PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:33 pm
by damjan193
Has raised his form slightly and he's good enough for a squad player but it's probably for the best if he leaves.

The fact that we haven't signed anyone better yet in his position is what concerns me, and the targets we're after are nothing to get excited about IMO.

Re: JOE ALLEN- Official thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:29 am
by maguskwt
"Liverpool have accepted a £13 million bid from Stoke City for Joe Allen, sources tell Press Association Sport."

Re: JOE ALLEN- Official thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 12:56 am
by 7_Kewell
Tidy player, but not good enough to start week in, week out.

Think Klopp would have kept him, but with 12 months left on his deal, it makes little sense to turn down  14 million

Re: JOE ALLEN- Official thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:29 am
by killerp
7_Kewell » Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:56 pm wrote:Tidy player, but not good enough to start week in, week out.

Think Klopp would have kept him, but with 12 months left on his deal, it makes little sense to turn down  14 million


+1

He did put in a good effort to sell himself, gotta give him credit for that unlike some Italians at lfc who just collect their pay check and do fook all.

Re: JOE ALLEN- Official thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:37 am
by parchpea
We pretty much secured money back after his efforts in France.

Over his time at Liverpool he never really did enough and hes the same player that came in, we need people that go beyond that.

Re: JOE ALLEN- Official thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:45 am
by only me
parchpea » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:37 am wrote:We pretty much secured money back after his efforts in France.

Over his time at Liverpool he never really did enough and hes the same player that came in, we need people that go beyond that.



No sense whatsoever as long as players as Hendo and Lucas are on the payroll. ..

Re: JOE ALLEN- Official thread

PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:24 am
by 7_Kewell
only me » Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:45 am wrote:
parchpea » Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:37 am wrote:We pretty much secured money back after his efforts in France.

Over his time at Liverpool he never really did enough and hes the same player that came in, we need people that go beyond that.



No sense whatsoever as long as players as Hendo and Lucas are on the payroll. ..

I think Lucas will be the next one out of the door.