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Formation for 2011/2012 - Undecided
Posted:
Mon Jul 04, 2011 6:00 amby aCe'
The more I look at the player we have now, the more confused I get about the Henderson signing and the C.Adam links..
On the one hand, signing Henderson for 20mill at this stage of the development of the squad where our starting 11 still needs a lot of improvement imo is a sign that the kid will be started from day1. In my books, we havent gotten to the stage where we can afford 20mill bench players who might improve in 3 or 4 seasons. Not yet anyways. That said, the only position where Henderson would be an improvement on what we currently have is the RM position, which would automatically point towards a 4-4-2 system.
With a 4-4-2 system
- we'd probably get the best out of Henderson (RM), Carroll (FW) and probably Suarez (FW).
-some of our current key players would have to be left out of the starting 11 (Kuyt, Meireles)
-while other high profile players would find it extremely hard to get any considerable game time (Aquilani, J.Cole, Maxi).
- Also, our main player and the best player in the squad (Gerrard) would have to adjust his game to play a CM role. Imo, he's nowhere near as effective when played deeper, and isnt the best at helping control the tempo of the game.
- Last point, where would C.Adam fit ?
4-2-3-1 and 4-3-3 are probably the more logical options and would certainly give the squad a little more balance. However, unless we somehow manage to inject a little more pace and flair in the final third I still believe the squad seems a little too one-dimensional atm and players like Henderson and Downing (heavily linked with) will do little to help in that department
Posted:
Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:15 amby Ben Patrick
My preference is 4-3-3 as i think it would get the best out of Gerrard.
I have stated this previously about formations but i will say again. I dont think Kenny has one system in mind. He appears to me that he is wanting to sign players that give him options to play a number of systems.
I dont think we will play one system all season, it will depend on the fixture imo.
Posted:
Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:16 amby Alex88
4-4-2(4-4-1-1)
Kelly----Carragher----Skrtel----Agger
Kuyt--Gerrard--Meireles--NEW WINGER
------Suarez
-------------Carroll
Posted:
Mon Jul 04, 2011 1:12 pmby stmichael
4-4-2 is completely outdated now at the very highest level. with the players we have, 4-3-3 is the way forward.
Posted:
Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:50 pmby brentd4
. reina
johnson/ kelly carragher skrtel agger/ NEW LB
lucas/ spearing
gerrard/ adam meireles/ aquilani
kuyt downing/ mata
carroll/suarez/ NEW ST
433 IS THE WAY FORWARD
IT WORKS WITH MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO
Posted:
Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:57 pmby Greavesie
brentd4 wrote:. reina
johnson/ kelly carragher skrtel agger/ NEW LB
lucas/ spearing
gerrard/ adam meireles/ aquilani
kuyt downing/ mata
carroll/suarez/ NEW ST
433 IS THE WAY FORWARD
IT WORKS WITH MANY DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO
if we sign Mata I don't think a new striker would be too important. We'd have Kuyt, Suarez. Carroll and even Mata in an emergency
Suarez could play across the three tho he prefers to drift from the left. Mata is more or less similar in that respect. Some proper wingers in would be great
centre midfield we're spoilt though, expect a lot of rotation if we don't sell many players
It's all very versatile tho - I'm a big fan of that anyway 
you missed our Hendo btw
Posted:
Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:19 pmby Ian Rush's Right foot
we're def going to play 4-3-3, an maybe 3-5-3 on occasion and it's starting to look like we're going to have some decent strength & depth
GK - Reina
RB - Kelly (Flanagan, Johnson, Carra)
CB - Carra (Skertel, Kyriakos)
CB - Agger (Wilson,Ayala)
LB - Johnson (Agger, Aurelio,Robinson)
CDM - Lucas (Spearing, Gerrard)
CM - Gerrard (Aquilani, Henderson)
CM - Adam (Meirieles, Spearing)
RM - Henderson (Kuyt, Gerrard, Maxi, Meirieles)
LM - Downing (Surez, Gerrard, Maxi)
CF - Surez -(Carrol, Kuyt, Pacheco)
i think it's looking decent!
If we get Mata where is he going to fit in?
This doesn't even include the likes of Amoo, Ince, Sterling, Darby et al, and looking at last season we have a chance of some of our youngsters having a breakout season.
On a side note, we could put out an all british team (Reina being the exeption) that could do a real good job for us.......
Posted:
Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:52 pmby jacdaniel
4-2-3-1 (based on players we have now and assuming Adam passes his medical)
Reina
Kelly Carra Agger Johnson
Lucas Adam
Kuyt Gerrard Suarez
Caroll
If we do end up signing the likes of Mata, Downing or Lennon etc its gonna become really difficult to predict who'll be dropped etc.
I can see a lot of big name players on the bench providing a lot of competition.
Posted:
Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:54 pmby Greavesie
Interesting that barely anyone has Hendo starting. If we're going for width and crosses I'd say Hendo is a better shout than Dirk
Posted:
Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:01 pmby Ian Rush's Right foot
Greavesie wrote:Interesting that barely anyone has Hendo starting. If we're going for width and crosses I'd say Hendo is a better shout than Dirk
I'd def have him starting on the right
Posted:
Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:51 pmby damjan193
IMO, the key to success in the Prem. is the simplicity of the 4-4-2 formation. No need to explain why and go into details cos I'll be going off topic. So, like I was trying to imply my choice for a best formation would be the 4-4-2 formation. With the players we have now though, the best formation for us would be 4-3-3, but it really depends on who do we sign and who do we sell next.
With a 4-4-2 we'd probably play something like this:
BACK FOUR AND KEEPER
Henderson Gerrard Adam New winger
Carrol Suarez
For this to work, I think it really depends on who we sign to play on the left. I personally think that Mata wouldn't fit that much to this formation as Downing would (that's why I prefer him over Mata). For this we need a winger who stays wide, delivers crosses and has a good passing ability. Downing has that, as opposed to Mata who would rather cut trough the defense.
Not that Mata wouldn't fit at all to the 4-4-2 formation, but the better option for this would be Downing. If we want to play 4-3-3 though, Downing should never be an option. Mata would be perfect for that. With him our formation will probably look something like this:
BACK FOUR AND KEEPER
Lucas/Adam
Gerrad Adam/Meireles
Suarez Mata
Carrol
Since Villa are being c'unts they can keep Downing cos there is no way that we're paying 20 mill for him. Although there are other players we can go for, my second option after Downing would be Mata. We could still try to play 4-4-2 with him but with this team and with Mata in it, the best formation would probably be 4-3-3.
Posted:
Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:56 pmby parchpea
I think we will go 4-2-3-1 but then again all teams are flexible in their approach these days.
Reina
Johnson Carra CB LB
Lucas Adam
Kuyt Gerrard Suarez
Carroll
Posted:
Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:56 pmby Greavesie
I can feel a merge comng on
Posted:
Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:50 amby jacdaniel
If we play 4-4-2 with Gerrard and Adam in CM we'll be absolutely destroyed.
Posted:
Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:14 amby Zidane
Surely you don't REALLY believe we paid 20m for Henderson do you ace? IMO Adam is HIGHLY rated by Kenny and I fully expect him and Lucas to be our starting midfielders along with a third in a more advanced role, (Stevie, Aqua and Raul can all fill that hole). Kuyt/Henderson to be the right side Downing/Suarez left with Andy up top. We're going to be playing different styles but for the most part I think it'll be 4-3-3.