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Jonjo shelvey or jay spearing. - Who is currently the better player.
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Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:41 pmby bigmick
I've noticed a few people claiming that Shelvey is already a better player than Spearing. He played much of last season in Charltons first team, so in some respects probably has at least as much experience. They sre different types of player in many ways, Shelvey being more of a young Gerrard whereas Spearing would be more like a young Alonso (I don't mean either player is as good, just what they aspire to be).
Obviously Shelvey is that bit younger so maybe has a bit more improvement in him, but Spearing can develop too.
My opinion FWIW is that Jay Spearing is currently the better player, and will remain so.
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Fri Aug 06, 2010 1:58 pmby Benny The Noon
My opinion is that spearing should be let go and sold on - is nearly 23 and has nothing to his game that will add anything to our team and imo will not improve in any way and is no different to the Peltiers and Potters that we have seen over the years . Cant comment on Shelvy as not seen him play enough .
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Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:00 pmby jacdaniel
Benny The Noon wrote:My opinion is that spearing should be let go and sold on - is nearly 23 and has nothing to his game that will add anything to our team and imo will not improve in any way and is no different to the Peltiers and Potters that we have seen over the years . Cant comment on Shelvy as not seen him play enough .
Wow, i thought Spearing was 21.
Either way i agree though. Jay seems like a nice lad but not cut out for this great club.
Although the way the game is going, he'll probably go to Hull and we'll sign him for 40 million in 4 years 
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Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:07 pmby Redman in wales
Spearing was born on 25 November 1988, so is currently 21, turning 22 in three and a half months
Shelvey was born on 27 February 1992 and is 3 and 1/2 years younger than Spearing
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Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:10 pmby Redman in wales
I think spearing is better of the two at this moment in time. If I had to pick one out of the two to face Arsenal (if I had to pick out of the two) it would be Spearing. Little things like ball retention, playing the easy pass when neccesary seem to be better in Spearings game, and from what I've seen Shelvey is trying too much too soon. However I think Shelvey can surpass Spearing when when comparing the two players at the same age.
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Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:32 pmby SouthCoastShankly
Spearing possibly could of been very good but his lack of first team opportunities have hindered his development. He did well on loan at Leicester but then step up from Championship to Premiership is big and at 23 I believe he has missed his chance. In my opinion, Spearing's talent is not good enough for the role he intends to play. His comparison is Alonso/Scholes, a midfield metronome, keeping the play ticking over and spraying passes when necessary. He hasn;t done that well enough for my liking and smacks of being out of his depth in the Premiership.
Shelvey's career however has moved more positively. He has already learnt his trade in the lower leagues, playing week in week out for a senior side. He has also been scouted to play in the Premiership. His style is more tenacious than Spearing's, he is somewhere between Gerrard and Mascherano. Aggressive but attacking. From what I saw of him in pre-season and clips when he was at Charlton, he fits the Premiership role much better.
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Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:48 pmby Redman in wales
SouthCoastShankly wrote:Spearing .............. and at 23
spearing is currently 21.
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Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:50 pmby Benny The Noon
Yeah thats my error - im sure the commentators said last night he was 22
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Fri Aug 06, 2010 2:52 pmby Benny The Noon
Every time i have seen Spearing play he is as far from a Alonso or scholes as you can get - has limited range of passing but is tenacious in the tackle and lots of energy .
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Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:23 pmby Raoul
I've come to the end of games having noticed a lot of good and bad from Shelvey, but finding Spearing to have been forgetable. I'm sure that the size of the screen on an internet stream combined with all the buzz in Shelvey has meant I've missed a lot of detail, but made a point to focus on Shelvey. I think Spearing is the more consistent of the two, less likely to lose the ball, but also less likely to play the killer pass. Against a good team, away from home I'd pick Spearing, home against a poor team I'd pick Shelvey. But right now, I'm not sure I'd want to be in the position to have to pick them, unless we are talking about a Carling Cup or Europa group game.
Which I guess reflects poorly on Spearing, but doesn't say much about Shelvey given their ages. But in truth I haven't seen either play much, nor on a particularly good stream!
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Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:28 pmby RED BEERGOGGLES
I like what I have seen from Shelvey so far ,he passes quickly and precisely and retains possession so much more than Spearing ,who while being sufficiently adequate to play in the reserves midfield is lost in the first team where chasing around after the ball like an over active Puppy chasing a car tyre, just wont pass muster I'm afraid... no contest Shelvey for me has some serious potential Spearing doesn't strike me as achieving anything at Liverpool ... possibly Tranmere or Leicester, but then that's maybe why Shelvey has already won this hands down ......
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Fri Aug 06, 2010 3:29 pmby jacdaniel
Shelvey has the potential to get better. I don't really feel the same about Spearing.
He is nearly 22.
Owen, fabregas and Rooney etc were playing at big clubs from age 16 or 17. If Spearing can't make the team at this point... he never will.
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Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:29 pmby Benny The Noon
Seems it's starting to look overwhelmly in favour of Shevely
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Fri Aug 06, 2010 5:31 pmby LFC2007
I'm erring on the side of "not as good now, but will be better" instead of better now, based on the fact that Spearing's far more experienced and would probably do a more solid job. Spearing still isn't good enough for us, though, and I've thought that for some time whereas Shelvey has raw talent that can be nurtured (he'll also develop his physique). All being well, I believe in three years time he will be a much better player than Spearing.
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Fri Aug 06, 2010 10:39 pmby sgs
I hope I see more of Shelvey, but both for me give little cause for optimism. I have recently been watch two Barcelona youngsters, Oriol Romeu and Thiago Alacanthra. The technical quality of both players, 18 and 19yrs old and their overall game intelligence leave Spearing esp and Shelvey in the dust...