Posted:
Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:14 am
by Ciggy
Mourhino is like Marmite you either love him or you hate him, hes a good manager no doubt about it, but his tactics are not easy on the eye either Chelsea where the 1-0 masters under his reign thats why Roman got rid. He wanted to see attacking Arsenal like football from the club he had bought plus that CL trophy that still alludes Chelsea.
And Mourhino's larger than life personality didnt go down to well with Abramovic, imagine him up against our owners there would be trouble every week, he would be asking for money they would say sell to buy he would say fuck you !!!!
Then you have most fans remembering to tell us to SHHHHHH they would not welcome him with open arms and I dont think he suits us anyway to be our manager there is just something about him that doesnt suit LFC.
That list that was drawn up by Parry & Moores contained the names of Mourhino, Rafa, Curbishley & Strachen so I am glad we got Rafa from that short list.
I think the worst thing Rafa done was want control over everything has he taken his eye off the ball taking on to much? He now controls everything in one way its good that he is over everything as the yanks havent got a clue about football, but on the other hand his focus needs to be on the first team and see if some reserve players can break into the team.
The stadium was part of the yanks plans when they bought us, nearly 3 years later no new stadium, the banks are not going to lend them another 200/400 million to build it, so their plans to buy us build the stadium then sell us at a profit have collapsed why they are still here god knows, because things have not worked out the way they planned and I cannot see them being here in another 5 years time if work started on the stadium tomorrow. Plus they didnt bargain on Spurs or City spending fortunes when they gambled on paying the bank loans off with the CL prize money every season.
Where we go from here is anyones guess, I wish I had a crystral ball because everything is going wrong from the owners, Rafa and the players.
Posted:
Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:00 pm
by Ben Patrick
On the subject of the thread which is not surprsing being derailed at times, then i think another manager could come in with the same scenario and do a better job.
We have good players is the main point in all this.
The squad is bare in certain areas there is no doubt about that.
But if someone came in right now with the same squad, i feel that they could get more out of the players at their disposal.
I am not sure the dressing room is totally lost but there are clearly some disallusioned players based on how they are performing right now.
We are consistently making the same mistakes, regarding defending set pieces.
Playing a midfield two with no creativity and playing one up front behind the most negative midfield quartet i can remember.
Thats bound to lead to disjointed performances and a lack of cohesion.
Any manager worth his cloth could come in and shake it up a bit.
Drop Gerrard back and play maybe two strikers.
Be a bit more positive and just try and get the players motivated.
Rafa has seriously failed in doing that this season.
I dont even need to start talking about names who could do it.
Lets just say there arent many managers that would be doing much worse than Rafa this season with the players that we have at our disposal - despite the terrible injuries.
Posted:
Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:32 pm
by stmichael
if it happens I will discuss it then. there is no chance that rafa will be going anywhere until the end of the season at least.
until then the players need to recognise that they are representing the greatest club in the world and need to start looking like they give a flying f#ck when fans like me travel half way across the country to watch them "perform".
Posted:
Mon Dec 07, 2009 12:35 pm
by account deleted by request
Ben Patrick wrote:On the subject of the thread which is not surprsing being derailed at times, then i think another manager could come in with the same scenario and do a better job.
We have good players is the main point in all this.
The squad is bare in certain areas there is no doubt about that.
But if someone came in right now with the same squad, i feel that they could get more out of the players at their disposal.
I am not sure the dressing room is totally lost but there are clearly some disallusioned players based on how they are performing right now.
We are consistently making the same mistakes, regarding defending set pieces.
Playing a midfield two with no creativity and playing one up front behind the most negative midfield quartet i can remember.
Thats bound to lead to disjointed performances and a lack of cohesion.
Any manager worth his cloth could come in and shake it up a bit.
Drop Gerrard back and play maybe two strikers.
Be a bit more positive and just try and get the players motivated.
Rafa has seriously failed in doing that this season.
I dont even need to start talking about names who could do it.
Lets just say there arent many managers that would be doing much worse than Rafa this season with the players that we have at our disposal - despite the terrible injuries.
spot on mate, agree 100%