Posted:
Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:41 amby account deleted by request
Effes wrote:s@int wrote:Effes wrote:s@int wrote:From what I vaguely remember of Del Bosque, it was more about the political set up at Madrid than his talents as a manager that ended their relationship. (He wasn't sacked, they just didn't renew his contract)
cmon statto mate
- you saying after what he did, he wasn't "sacked".
You're Terry Technical - sure you're not a ticket inspector or something s@int?
Mate, if you win the League and Champs League and don't get your contract renewed - you are sacked.
Did you google that to confirm?
Sorry mate, on my 2nd bottle of Rioja
My point wasn't really that he wasn't sacked, but that he left because of other reasons than football ones. i.e. they didn't say "you only won the CL and the Title mate ..... your out."
I don't think he was sacked but my memories not what it once was mate so I may be wrong about that ?
OK, you may be right there - isn't Sabre an insomniac also?
He could enlighten us.
The saying of "Pop will eat itself", rings true of Real.
When they won the Champs league in 2002, they were the best, by far.
For me, the Spanish system of having Directors that dictate who they buy and sell, is fatally flawed.
Take away Real's 5 successive European Cups from 1955-59 - and they only have 4 European Cups.
The way they "stole" Di Stefano from Barca was criminal. They wouldn't have won it without him.
I think there is only really England that have had Managers choosing and buying the players though mate. Even in Italy I think its usually the president who picks the players, presumably with the help of the manager or someone who knows about football ?
Even in England I don't think managers have ever had as much freedom as we all assumed. I remember Brian Clough buying some player or other for Derby without informing the board first and he got into all sorts of trouble.
Clough was also one of the first managers to be suspected/accused of taking "bungs" as well, which is obviously another of the problems associated in having a manager in control of tranfers.
At Liverpool under Paisley he used to give a list of players that he thought would "freshen up the team" at the end of every season,and then it was up to the club to see if they could get a couple of them.
Posted:
Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:55 amby Kharhaz
From what I remember of Del Bosques time in charge, Real Madrid were massively in debt. At that time they signed, I cant remember his name, but he was Bosnian - Herzagonian (however you spell it) from Valencia, which put the club more into debt and Del Bosques contract could not be afforded. Real Madrid existed on massive loans at that time and it was then the supporters vote for the owners of the club came into effect.
Unlucky GYBS mate. It does seem a bit harsh though feck me. You win the title AND the Champions League and get the sack?
